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Old 04-11-2010, 01:11 PM   #121
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That's an outright awful analogy. You'll have to defend it. You probably won't.
Awful? How so. Doing what's not advised doesn't end well most of the time. These here reporters did something which wasn't very smart, they entered a combat zone without making their presence known. That could have not ended well.

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That you think the context is unjust but rationalize the event means there is a disconnect between the two on your end.
So grinding it down to the basics, if I hate tomatoes because I find the taste disgusting I must also dislike ketchup simply because otherwise it (somehow) wouldn't make sense? Because this is what you're getting at here.

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You could say "copping out is the easiest way to escape responsibility for one's position".
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Just so we're clear, I still think those reporters were grade-A morons. Who knows what you might think I meant through this post otherwise...
You sure could.

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One of the strategies middle and high-school aged children employ when someone criticizes their behavior is mockery.
And this is relevant to this thread how?
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Old 04-11-2010, 02:13 PM   #122
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Here are some comments from a journalist filmmaker who was actually at the site of the attack the next day:

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I mean, the thing that was most chilling to me about this, as an independent journalist who works unembedded often, is that when the reports came out—the military investigations came out a few days later, you can read them all on the internet now—and they basically—I mean, essentially they blamed the reporters for causing this. They say they did three things wrong. First, they failed to identify themselves to a helicopter gunship flying, I don’t know, hundreds of feet above their heads. Second, their proximity to armed insurgents was reason for them to be killed. And third, their furtive attempt to take a photograph of American troops.

I mean, so, first of all, there is no reason at all to believe or to conclude that any of the people in that picture are armed insurgents. I mean, you can see two men with Kalashnikovs, but this is 2007 in Baghdad. This is the height of the civil war, when dozens of bodies a day were being picked up from the street, when sectarian militias filled the Iraqi security forces, the police and the army. Every neighborhood in Baghdad organized its own protection force. And it was legal at the time for every household to own a Kalashnikov in Iraq, and every household I ever went to did. So the presence of two men, dangling at their sides Kalashnikovs, in a crowd of civilians who have no weapons at all, I mean, is absolutely no—I mean, it’s—the whole thing is ridiculous.
The whole interview can be watched or read here: http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/8...deadly_2007_us
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:32 PM   #123
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My 67 year old aunt in Iraq, who's a widow btw, has an AK-47 in her house. I think my uncle does too.
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:40 PM   #124
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this thread is soooo shitty.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:16 AM   #125
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Not enough slams for you, huh?
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:27 AM   #126
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:54 AM   #127
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I think the founder of wikileaks is on "The Colbert Report" tonight.
Colbert is kinda callin' him out
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Old 04-13-2010, 06:23 AM   #128
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Why? Did Wikileaks do something to him?
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Old 04-13-2010, 12:02 PM   #129
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:04 PM   #130
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