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Old 08-05-2008, 04:49 PM   #61
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Well if this really did happen, it's horrible, and the fucks who did it will get what's coming to them.
I believe they will get what's coming to them, but it won't come from contacting any politician. Karma always comes back
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:26 PM   #62
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How do you know there is any truth to this story anyway? I see no proof at all. Just some random person ranting about something that supposedly happened. No one will care. Goodnight, it's bed time.
The father refers to the photos, which appear to support the case against suicide. Obviously we don't have them at our disposal, but if they contain what he says they can certainly be considered proof. Why are you so keen for the story not to be true?
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:28 PM   #63
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The father refers to the photos, which appear to support the case against suicide. Obviously we don't have them at our disposal, but if they contain what he says they can certainly be considered proof. Why are you so keen for the story not to be true?
It very well may be true, but until it's proven true it's nothing but a story.
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It very well may be true, but until it's proven true it's nothing but a story.
That's why he wants newspapers and politicians to pay attention to it. Nothing will be proven or disproven if you just sit back and say "probably fake, don't care."

And this isn't just a "rape trial." If true, it's a case of military personnel covering up an appalling atrocity. This isn't the first time people have come forward with claims of atrocities in the military. Most of the time nothing is done about it. You can bet Abu Ghraib wouldn't have gone to trial if those shitheads hadn't posed for pictures.
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Old 08-05-2008, 06:08 PM   #65
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You can bet Abu Ghraib wouldn't have gone to trial if those shitheads hadn't posed for pictures.
Exactly. Reporting crimes does occasionally have results.

Also, I'd like to agree with Jonny that it's foolish and weak to look down on idealists from the supposed wisdom of jadedness. If I'm more jaded now at 30 than I was at 20, that's nothing I'm proud of. I envy those who still have the fire of idealism and want to make things happen that others have just stopped caring about. And there are fortunately still people around much older than any of us who STILL devote themselves to idealistic causes.
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You still don't realize that the government pays top dollar to keeps people mouth's shut. This will never go anywhere, I can guarantee it.
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I see both sides of the coin, still...doesn't mean you can't do the right thing.
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Then you have the whole arguement on just what is the right thing. It differs for everyone.
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Then you have the whole arguement on just what is the right thing. It differs for everyone.
Coming from someone who believes in karma.
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Re Abu Ghraib, one should still remember that the ones who got busted were just the dicks doing the posing, not the higher authorities (e.g. Rumsfeld) who sanctioned it.
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You still don't realize that the government pays top dollar to keeps people mouth's shut. This will never go anywhere, I can guarantee it.
I do...that's why these things need some effort to be brought to people's attention. Your argument is pretty circular. Even Nixon got busted.
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