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Old 02-20-2011, 02:39 PM   #1
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Defeater - Empty Days And Sleepless Nights

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Old 02-20-2011, 02:41 PM   #2
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:26 PM   #4
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Gay, the last 2 mins of White Oak Doors is cut off.
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Kinda wary because of Dear Father but stoked nonetheless.
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Old 02-20-2011, 06:09 PM   #6
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Album is fucking incredible.
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Old 02-20-2011, 06:14 PM   #7
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That acoustic song that leaked a few days ago was so damn good.

Red, White and Blues is one of the best opening tracks I've ever heard.

Excited for this thanks.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:42 PM   #9
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This album cruuuushes!

Holy hell it is long, but so damn solid. Only problem Defeater is that a lot of there shit kind of sounds the same so it is harder to recognize songs/know "hey I've heard this before."

Awesome so far on my first play.
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It's not that long, it's in two parts. It's a 2xLP, the first being the first 10 songs, and the second being an EP consisting of the last 4 songs.
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God damnit where is the rest of White Oak Doors!?

This is seriously my AOTY so far.
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God damnit where is the rest of White Oak Doors!?
i'm like 90% sure it's all there. in 'Travels' the prophet catches his older brother off-guard and tosses him in front of the train at the last second, so i feel like this album is supposed to end super abruptly.
i've only listened to this once (half-attentively) at work but i can't wait to sit down and jam it with some decent headphones sometime. this band rules.

also lyrics because they're probably fucking fantastic
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:57 PM   #13
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It's supposed to be there. Someone asked on Defeater's page and they just responded with a ";)"
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:06 PM   #14
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Yeah, I've got the original rip and the b9 rip and it ends there.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:09 PM   #15
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Vinyl exclusive? :D
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:29 PM   #16
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btw, just downloaded this shit, siiiick so far. Thanks guys.
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Wow didn't realize this album was that deep/connected to the past albums. Not sure if he wrote Travels with EDSN in mind, but the connection is crazy.

Lost Ground - Father
Travels- Younger Brother
EDSN- Older Brother

Shame that this is seemingly the last album of the story unless they do one about the mother.

Put the songs in chronological order the best I could. I had to just start mixing Travels and Empty Days together during the middle, but kept the wife story close.

Bold= Empty Days
Underline= Sleepless Nights
Italics= Travels
Regular= Common Ground

The Bite and the Sting
A Wound and Scar
Home Ain't Never Home
The Red, White, and Blues
Singin' In New York
Beggin' in the Slums
Blessed Burden
But Breathing
Brothers
Everything Went Quiet
Nameless Streets
Forgiver Forgetter/Warm Blood Rush (same story but from each side)
The City By Dawn
Dear Father
Prophet in Plain Clothes
Waves Crash, Clouds Roll
Carrying Weight
Empty Glass
I Don't Mind
No Kind of Home
White Knuckles
Cemetery Walls
Quiet the Longing
The Blues
Headstone
Moon Shine
At Peace
White Oak Doors
Debts
Cowardice

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Old 02-24-2011, 11:09 AM   #18
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I wish you were as intuitive about the Sox bullpen as you are with Defeaters discography...

Also, last night when I was chattin' it up with Ian, he said you were a Modern Life Is War fanboy, so I gave them a listen...they impressed me, so cool! That makes us piss pals!
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Lost Ground isn't about the father. It's about the young black man that plays the guitar at the end of Prophet in Plain Clothes on Travels.
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Yeah I kind of felt like I was wrong with that. There were some timing issues with the storyline of Lost Ground and Travels.
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You sure? I was just going through the lyrics of Prophet and Beggin'. While beggin' mentions vaguely at the end that he makes eye contact while he is singing, but he calls himself am old man.

He leaves for war in 1943, Red, White, Blues, and you figure that makes him 18 at the.youngest. Coward was born in 1945, Blessed Burden, and he is 17ish in travels. That means that Prophet has to be late 30's by the time of Travels. Far from a young man.
Ahh, I should have phrased that better- Lost Ground is the story of the guy singing Prophet, but it happened before the two characters met on Travels. So Prophet takes place after he comes back from war.
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Ahh, I should have phrased that better- Lost Ground is the story of the guy singing Prophet, but it happened before the two characters met on Travels. So Prophet takes place after he comes back from war.
Yeah that makes more sense. Band needs to explain the whole damn story. There are a few interesting holes
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The book that comes with the new LP explains everything. The albums are all in the right order in terms of how the songs are organized on each album and Cody is right, LG is about the prophet in plain clothes, whereas Travels and Edsn are about the two brothers.
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I really like this album and their previous releases but this story shit sounds more complicated than Neon Genesis Evangelion
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Re: Defeater - Empty Days And Sleepless Nights

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Its not too hard at all.

Father loves his oldest son (Forgiver) but hates his younger one (coward) Coward is jealous of his brother. Coward and Forgiver as kids play "dodge" which is just chicken on a train track.

Their father gets drunk and starts hitting his wife. Coward kills him with a bottle then runs away. Forgiver calls him a coward.

Coward becomes a homeless drifter dealing with his past. He runs into the guy from Lost Ground singing as a homeless man.

At the same time forgiver buries their dad, grows up caring for his mom who becomes addicted to heroine (I assume).

After drinking with his friends from work he sees a girl at the Copper Coin. He goes over to her and they end up getting married.

The father had a gambling debt which a bookie tries to take from Forgiver. Forgiver confronts him and he gets beaten up and when he returns home the bookie has killed his wife.

Forgiver visits her every night after he gets drunk at the Copper Coin.

Coward decides to return home.

Forgiver finds his mom gone and notices her rosary isnt there so she is at the church. He gets to the church and she overdoses while praying.

Forgiver sits at home with a gun to his head. He hears a knock at his door and its Coward. He tells Coward he is going to kill him and walks him to the train tracks to either shoot Coward or let the train hit Coward.

Coward grabs the gun and throws Forgiver to the ground. Empty Days ends with Forgiver being hit by the train.

Coward then goes to the church and confesses. The priest says he doesn't judge him but God does. Cowardthen climbs to the top of a steeple and jumps off.

Kind of the short and skunny but I'll expand upon it later.
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