i hate to piss y'all off...

[Reincremation]

but yeah, i'm about halfway through the OWN promo I got today. it's delicious.

[cagedbychrist]

give it to me now.

[Reincremation]

i think not.

[PyroVesten]

When you've had time to digest it, let us know the verdict..

[Terrifyer]

Hey man - tell us about it .... what is the production like? Worms vocals .... general things.

Not all of us are as lucky to hear it you know! haha

[Reincremation]

like lord worm said in the interview with metallian, his current vocal style has more enunciation to it. his vocals are rougher and reach the higher register more often. the production is actually pretty raw. it's not nearly as clean as, say, And Then You'll Beg, but it's still an excellent production job. There's a sample at the start of most songs as well as a few in the middle of some of them. they don't detract from the music, so not to worry.

the music itself is a bit hard to digest. the riffs are off kilter, and it seems to me like there's a gorguts influence. i couldn't tell which songs featured that dude from hatebreed.

as it stands, it's probably my third favorite after NSV and WS...and that's only after one listen! so yes, this is a very strong album, and i'll tell you guys more once i've given it another spin. oh, and so far my favorite track is "Keeping the Cadaver Dogs Busy."

[scum]

one day i will work for metal review

[Reincremation]

one day i will work for metal review

you probably could if you know how to write reasonably well.

[self mutilated]

so are the guitar parts real fast and technical like all the newer bands? i just hope for fast songs.. and does lord do alot of lows on this?

[andy9279]

I like three main things you said here.

1. The vocals reach a higher register, maybe there will be more variation like there was on BMF (i already detected some on Carrionshine) opposed to the lack of variation on NSV.

2. Not super-clean production...i dunno i tend to get into albums more if theyre not so damn polished.

3. Gorguts influence! I love Gorguts, but combining them with Cryptopsy would be a pretty amazing act.


Question: If you had to give the album a 1-10 rating, what would it be right now?


>>like lord worm said in the interview with metallian, his current vocal style has more enunciation to it. his vocals are rougher and reach the higher register more often. the production is actually pretty raw. it's not nearly as clean as, say, And Then You'll Beg, but it's still an excellent production job. There's a sample at the start of most songs as well as a few in the middle of some of them. they don't detract from the music, so not to worry.

>>the music itself is a bit hard to digest. the riffs are off kilter, and it seems to me like there's a gorguts influence. i couldn't tell which songs featured that dude from hatebreed.

[self mutilated]

i wish it would be better than none so vile, but it's almost impossible... if the artwork is what you guys have said the artwork will get a 10, and if the lyrics are half as good as the titles it will also get a 10....so all thats left is the guitars and drums, and as a guitarist i hope this album is hard as hell to play....

[Reincremation]

if i rated it right now i'd give it an 8. really hard to say though.

[self mutilated]

an 8 is good..

[andy9279]

Yeah ive never liked limiting a review to a 1-10 rating, but its a scale at least. How would everyone rate their other albums?

BMF - 8/10
NSV - 10/10
WS - 10/10
ATYB - 8/10

Also curious what other albums you guys would give a 10 to that have been released in the past couple years?

[Essence of the Beast]

Hey reincremation...are there any of those grooves or breakdowns that snuck up every once in a while like on BMF and NSV? I think its that aspect of the band that I miss the most. You know, like the break in slit your guts...the devastating groove that pops up a few times in graves of the fathers...or the opening's to open face surgery and born headless. Those parts added some fuckin sick contrast to the technical riffing and full throttle blasting that dominated most of the songwriting.

[self mutilated]

I SAY
BMF 10
NSV 10
WS 9
ATYB 9

the only thing the last two didn't have was worm.. i'm a huge cryptopsy fan tho..
new releases
hate eternal 10
nile 8
disgorge 9
deeds of flesh 8

[In Vermis Veritas]

Mmm.. "OWN promo copy!" :drool:
Luckily, I cannot hold a grudge against an ex-South African (well, most of 'em). Thanks for the insider information Reincremation, my anticipation just keeps building and building. A bizarre technical opus? Bring that shit! I'm just getting to grips with the most recent Fantomas, so I'm up for anything. Think I'll dig out Kataklysm's "Temple Of Knowledge" to get myself into the mind-bending death metal frame of mind!!

Thanks again!

[Essence of the Beast]

ahh...Sylvian Houde, now HE would be a sick choice for guest vocals...but I think he's locked away in a sanitarium somewhere. Oh well...as for ratings:
UE: 10
BMF: 10
NSV: 11
WS: 7
ATYB: 5

[Tyler Durden]

ahh...Sylvian Houde, now HE would be a sick choice for guest vocals...but I think he's locked away in a sanitarium somewhere. Oh well...as for ratings:
UE: 10
BMF: 10
NSV: 11
WS: 7
ATYB: 5

Dude... that's a fuckin' genius notion right there!!! I don't think I would settle for anything less than Sylvain on lead vocals though - he can destroy Worm with the greatest of ease, you only have to listen to the old Kataklysm shit to know he's the daddy...

[DerFunkmeister]

ahh...Sylvian Houde, now HE would be a sick choice for guest vocals...but I think he's locked away in a sanitarium somewhere. Oh well...as for ratings:
UE: 10
BMF: 10
NSV: 11
WS: 7
ATYB: 5

I agree with every single character typed in this post :)

[Reincremation]

Hey reincremation...are there any of those grooves or breakdowns that snuck up every once in a while like on BMF and NSV? I think its that aspect of the band that I miss the most. You know, like the break in slit your guts...the devastating groove that pops up a few times in graves of the fathers...or the opening's to open face surgery and born headless. Those parts added some fuckin sick contrast to the technical riffing and full throttle blasting that dominated most of the songwriting.


there are a few of these indeed.

[In Vermis Veritas]

A metal buddy and fundi did a net search recently and apparently found that Sylvain Houde is now a dj making dark gabba-like techno!
:dj: = :emot-eek: I'll have to investigate this!
Yep I was bloody chuffed to pick up "Sorcery and The Mystical Gate of Reincarnation' and "Temple of Knowledge" digipaks a while back! Sylvain guesting on a Cryptopsy album would indeed rule. I'd debate whether he destroys Lord Worm though... while both icons in the most-demented-DM-vokills hall of fame, I prefer Lord Worm.

[Cloaca]

the riffs are off kilter, and it seems to me like there's a gorguts influence.

Fucking yes.

[Alpha~Omega]

Damn you lucky fucker :grenade: ;)
Sure it will be a good album , can't wait to hear it.
Guest Vocals of Houde would be really killer , haha two maniac DM vocalist.
I don't really care who of them would the destroy the other one, both are pretty impressive vocalists.
Ah well and just for the sake of posting it : :Mrt:

[Yertle4]

Any Cryptopsy albums is bound to take a few listens to sink in entirely...that's the nature of the beast so to say.
Either way, one tends to like these 'sink-in' albums a hell of a lot more in the long run.

[Cloaca]

So true. All my favourite albums are ones that didn't absolutely blow me away at first. It's got to the point where sometimes I force myself to listen to a band I don't absolutely love, because there's parts in it that I can see will probably kick my arse after a bit of 'sink-in' time. Then of course, one day, BANG! it all clicks, and you are left with a big cheesy grin on your face.

[Rungledunk]

all i want to know is have they retained their "tech" edge...........also.......how's flo's drumming on this compared to the other cds?

[Reincremation]

it's no less tech than their other work, and flo's drumming is indeed faster than ever before.

[Wakeness]

it's no less tech than their other work, and flo's drumming is indeed faster than ever before.

HA! I told you guys it was going to be wicked. I knew when I heard Flo play those three tunes.
Out of respect for the band, Recremation, don't leak the CD. We're almost at the release date anyway.

[Reincremation]

HA! I told you guys it was going to be wicked. I knew when I heard Flo play those three tunes.
Out of respect for the band, Recremation, don't leak the CD. We're almost at the release date anyway.


Oh, i most certainly will not. anyway, they claim that all these promos have some sort of tracker in them, even if it's just mp3's (which is what i have), so supposedly they would trace it back to me and fuck me over if i leaked it, haha. what i can tell you for sure is that the CD will be leaked at some point, but i hope that you will all go out and by a copy anyhow - i know i will.

[self mutilated]

Oh, i most certainly will not. anyway, they claim that all these promos have some sort of tracker in them, even if it's just mp3's (which is what i have), so supposedly they would trace it back to me and fuck me over if i leaked it, haha. what i can tell you for sure is that the CD will be leaked at some point, but i hope that you will all go out and by a copy anyhow - i know i will.


i know i won't download it i plan on buying two..I JUST WISH THE COVER ART WAS BETTER... THERES LIKE ONE BODY :duh:

[Wakeness]

what i can tell you for sure is that the CD will be leaked at some point, but i hope that you will all go out and by a copy anyhow - i know i will.

I know I will too.

[Terrifyer]

Being totally honest, if the Cd has leaked to the net - i would download it in a flash .... i have been waitin years for Lord Worm to return to Cryptopsy. I dont think i could resist knowin that it is out there.

That said, i still would and will buy the cd the first day it is available.

[In Vermis Veritas]

I understand the temptation, but I'm holding out just that little bit longer... I'm pre-ordering a copy ASAFP! Plus I hope the guys come up with some cool t-shirt designs for the release.

And Cloaca, I second you on difficult albums being worthwhile in the longrun when they finally "click," as well as sticking with something that you don't love instantly. Cannot wait to get my teeth into "Once Was Not."

[Rungledunk]

i hear that, it took me forever to get into WS, but now it's one of my favorite cds.

[Cloaca]

Hah, I was hooked on WS from the 21st second of Emaciate. NSV was harder for me to get into.

[Alpha~Omega]

The first time I heard NSV I just remember the intro scream of Crown of Horns and the Outro : "run and cry to mama". Right after that I heard it a second time and :couto: , songs stuck in my head :icon_twis I will not download the album , because it kinda ruins the "surprise". It maybe leaks a month before the release date , you download it and when its released you already know the songs ,so its less interessting.

[In Vermis Veritas]

I'm with you Alpha, I will not download the album and detract from it's impact. And it helps that I've just pre-ordered it... :devil: As my birthday's tomorrow, I've just secured the best present I could ask for!!

[Cloaca]

I'm with you Alpha, I will not download the album and detract from it's impact. And it helps that I've just pre-ordered it... :devil: As my birthday's tomorrow, I've just secured the best present I could ask for!!

Where's the preorder site????? I looked on Century Media and saw nothing. They hadn't even removed Jon Levasseur's name from the band page.

[Alpha~Omega]

Don't worry about the CM site its pretty , ähm well not so good I would say. As for the pre-order thing I would also like to know where it is.

[self mutilated]

fuck it after hearing that new song i'll download it, i'm really shocked by that..

[Divine Morbidity]

That new song makes me cry. The beginning and end sound like a really shitty deftones song narrated by a crappy vincent price impersonator.

[self mutilated]

i can't say your wrong

[Divine Morbidity]

Flo still kicks ass though. But thats about all I can say about it that is relatively positive.

[self mutilated]

yes flo is great i just wish he had better guitar riffs to write to.. and why doesn't lord use his own style it's like he's trying to sound like the other guys? FUCK THEM GIVE US THE WORMS....

[Divine Morbidity]

Ive listened to it about 20 times now, and the weak link is a combonation of uninspired guitar work, and Worm trying to hard to please everyone with the vocals.

I have a feeling the rest of the CD will Rule though.

[self mutilated]

Ive listened to it about 20 times now, and the weak link is a combonation of uninspired guitar work, and Worm trying to hard to please everyone with the vocals.


thats so true.. i wish he was a crazy as the old days..

[self mutilated]

compared to the new deeds,disgorge, nile, hate eternal

[Divine Morbidity]

Every time I listen to it I like it a Tad more. It sorta grows on you the more you listen to it. For the most part the previous comments still stand. Not Fantastic, not Horrible, just average compare to the rest of their work. I might just be in shock because it was nothing like I expected. I will just keep listening to it over and over trying to make up my mind.

[self mutilated]

i'm still buying 2

[JohnnyJihad]

I'm still buying 1.

[Zeptoplix]

im gonna buy it, but i hope LW doesn't spend 35 minutes imitating chris barnes...

[Yertle4]

I've heard 3 songs from various sources, and I'm quite impressed by the variation in the song - simplicity, jazzy clean parts, chord progressions made up of simply chords and killer spastic riffs. I love the vocals too, but that seems to be one of the main debate points on Cryptopsy....

[post_scriptum]

Well I don't mind the new song they posted because I'm listening to Keeping the Cadaver Dogs Busy... and it's awesome

And I don't know what's wrong with you guys, LW said he'd change his voice because he couldn't do another NSV again

[cagedbychrist]

at least according to lord worm jamey jasta never did backup vocals on the cd

[Essence of the Beast]

aside from the opening and closing spoken word parts Wormie sounds almost exactly like he did on BMF, which I for one think is fuckin awesome. I dont see the fuss, really. And honestly, I like the song alot...its probably because I wasnt expecting it to be NSV part ll at all.

[cagedbychrist]

Exactly, what would be the point

[DeathMetalLegion]

I've heard two new Cryptopsy songs and Im hoping the rest of the CD will be better (more technical). I also hope that LW wont ruin the album, like he did the live performance when I saw them a few months back.

BMF- 5
NSV-8
WS-10
ATYB-10


Newer Albums
Hate Eternal-9
Nile-10
Ion Dissonance-9

[carrionshine]

BMF- 5

blasphemy!

[DeathMetalLegion]

It wasn't very technical (Drum wise) the recording was dirty, and I hate Lord worm. I probaly only listened to it 3 or 4 times too. So thats probaly the best I could give it. Every Cryptopsy CD gets better and better, hopefully this will stand true for the next release as well. Though I am worried.

[Coma]

I didn't like that new song too much, but after listening to the CD like 10x now, it's fucking incredible. Shit is gonna be br00tal live. :)

[DeathMetalLegion]

I thought it came out oct 18? Am I missing something?

[carrionshine]

I thought it came out oct 18? Am I missing something?
the album has already been leaked on the net

[DeathMetalLegion]

Oh, that sucks. Seriously.

[carrionshine]

Oh, that sucks. Seriously.
yeah I'm not even thinking about downloading it.

But like I said before I think they'll change the release date because it has leaked more than a month before the actual release date.

[help me i'm in hell]

yeah I'm not even thinking about downloading it.

But like I said before I think they'll change the release date because it has leaked more than a month before the actual release date.

yeah right...

It's very fucking good. Has grown on me since my first listen a couple of hours ago, I'm actually considering dishing out the 25 bucks to go to see them at BB Kings.

[Coma]

I'm actually considering dishing out the 25 bucks to go to see them at BB Kings.
What's there to consider? $25 for fucking Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Vader, Aborted, Decapitated, and Dew-Scented...that's worth every penny.

[JohnnyJihad]

What's there to consider? $25 for fucking Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Vader, Aborted, Decapitated, and Dew-Scented...that's worth every penny.

My thoughts exactly.

If dew scented have to play before despised Icon I'm going to be irritated haha

[LIGATURE]

"angel skin garden" 4 minutes and 10 seconds that blast is fucking incredible. also the solo that follows with the epic background music is fucking soooooooooo good. one of the best solos i have heard in a long time this side of necrophagist. :eck: i am buying this album no matter what. i buy all of my music though it dosent really matter, i allready new i was going to.

[TheNecropsY]

Hi guys

remember me?

just thought id throw my 2 cents in , cus i have now also heard the album for 2 days now

first off i think its heavily gorguts inspired, but in different ways

secondly id say its esily better then the last 2 cryptopsy albums, deffinatly a big improvment vocaly, worm doesnt try to rehash old territory infact he does alot of new stuff wich works well

all in all the album is like nothing of the previous albums, wich is what makes it so good

and my god the riffs... and gravity blasts mmmm

wait till u hear what they did to carrionshine ;)

lata \m/

[help me i'm in hell]

What's there to consider? $25 for fucking Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Vader, Aborted, Decapitated, and Dew-Scented...that's worth every penny.

-25 bucks in a week after I have many other concerts to go to.
-Main reason I was going was CC who are no longer on the bill so I got really pissed off...
-It's a weekday (which means I have to be up by 5 on the next morning)
-It's a Monday show which means I have class until 5:30 (exhaustion)
-Due to the prior, I probably will miss Dew Scented.

But yeah I'm still heavily considering it if I can get around the parents...

[In Vermis Veritas]

Album's leaked? AAArrrgghh.. must fight temptation! With all the debate flying around, I'm more driven to hear the album than ever!

Oh you dudes are right about the Century Media site, they really need to get their shit together. Got my paycheque recently and pre-ordered "Once Was Not" from American Amazon. Order's confirmed, they'll ship it on Oct. 18. Frankly, I'm working to get paid, simply to buy the new Cryptopsy... everything else is secondary! :)

[Cloaca]

Hi guys

remember me?

just thought id throw my 2 cents in , cus i have now also heard the album for 2 days now

first off i think its heavily gorguts inspired, but in different ways

secondly id say its esily better then the last 2 cryptopsy albums, deffinatly a big improvment vocaly, worm doesnt try to rehash old territory infact he does alot of new stuff wich works well

all in all the album is like nothing of the previous albums, wich is what makes it so good

and my god the riffs... and gravity blasts mmmm

wait till u hear what they did to carrionshine ;)

lata \m/
Hey NecropsY!

All this good news about the album is making me very excited...... I don't want to download it but I really don't know if I can hold out until late October....

Regardless, I buy just about all my albums anyway, so I'll be buying this no matter what,

[RilontskY]

I didn't like that new song too much, but after listening to the CD like 10x now, it's fucking incredible. Shit is gonna be br00tal live. :)

I cannot wait to see this shit live.

[Divine Morbidity]

I cannot wait to see this shit live.



Damn Straight! Ill be at the detroit show at Harpos.

[Orkestra]

I could not restrain myself if Cryptopsy played in UK... which they should, because I say so and I wear glasses...

[porphyria]

I really feel the track CM released lacks one important thing, cryptopsy.

I can't believe this, I have the most respect for cryptopsy during the mike d. era but this is just..........................damn.

[RilontskY]

I really feel the track CM released lacks one important thing, cryptopsy.

I can't believe this, I have the most respect for cryptopsy during the mike d. era but this is just..........................damn.

I suggest you don't obssess over it and enjoy the rest of the album. The first 9 tracks alone are worth the $25!

[scum]

I really feel the track CM released lacks one important thing, cryptopsy.

I can't believe this, I have the most respect for cryptopsy during the mike d. era but this is just..........................damn.



the rest of the album is MUCH different, trust me

[porphyria]

I suggest you don't obssess over it and enjoy the rest of the album. The first 9 tracks alone are worth the $25!

$25? I wouldn't pay $10 if any of the other songs are AT ALL like this. I already know I will not dig worms vocals.

[Antæos]

After hearing "Keeping The Cadaver Dogs Busy", I was greatly relieved. It fucking rocks.

And that crap about not going to a show, what the hell. If there's a show in your area, go and support. Heck, if there's a show in your country go support :p

[Essence of the Beast]

Yo, help me im in hell: they're playing at the downtown in farmingdale, LI sept 27...so if u cant make the BB Kings show thats another opportunity

[RilontskY]

$25? I wouldn't pay $10 if any of the other songs are AT ALL like this. I already know I will not dig worms vocals.

Well they aren't. So I guess you'll be buying the album.

[help me i'm in hell]

Yo, help me im in hell: they're playing at the downtown in farmingdale, LI sept 27...so if u cant make the BB Kings show thats another opportunity

yeah I saw that show. BB Kings is easier to get to for me though... Damn LIRR... thanks for the reply though man.

I'm going to see them this friday with God Forbid and Despised Icon.

[Essence of the Beast]

cool deal man

[savtec]

Damn this album is good. Favourite track so far must be Adeste Infidelis!
Got the Promo today, and i must say im impressed.

[help me i'm in hell]

OK So i'm finally geeting to see them in November. Turns out I have no school on the 8th due to election day or something.

fuck yeah. :banana: