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carrionshine
09-01-2005, 09:08 PM
I hate his voice

but I was reading the lyrics he wrote for cryptopsy and I yhink he's a pretty good lyricist

anyone feels like me?


:kngt:
^^this is so funny

andy9279
09-01-2005, 11:43 PM
I prefer Lord Worms vocals on ''Blasphemy...'' the most, but i came to like Mikes vocals as well. It did take the band in a different direction though...and to me at least it seemed to go with the more technical nature of "WS" and "ATYB."

Wakeness
09-01-2005, 11:52 PM
I like Mikes Vocals.

Reincremation
09-02-2005, 12:46 AM
i like both vocalists. i found mike annoying on And Then You'll Beg, but he did a great job on Whisper Supremacy.

In Vermis Veritas
09-02-2005, 04:22 AM
Yeah LW is my favourite Cryptopsy vocals but I grew to like Mike's more facebreaker hardcore style for his albums. I also thought he came up with some really great lyrics, which seemed based more on everday existence, neurosis and struggle subject matter, as opposed to Worm's insane netherworld of blasphemy, serial killers, perverts and the occult. "Loathe," "Emaciate," "And Then It Passes...," "Screams Go Unheard:" awesome lyrics

Cloaca
09-02-2005, 05:32 AM
I didn't mind Mike's vocals, he was definately better on WS, but I didn't like his lyrics. Doesn't matter about them lyrics though.

hellboundjeff
09-02-2005, 01:47 PM
I didn't particularly care for mike's vocals but he was good live & a real cool person. I've hung out with cryptopsy on numerous occasions & it was always bad ass! But to be honest noone can replace LORD WORM in Cryptopsy! Long live CRYPTOPSY!!!!

Mol
09-02-2005, 01:55 PM
Contrary to most of you guys, I prefer Mike to LW, I think his vocals suit their music better than LW's do. As for lyrics, I don't care, I mean it doesn't make a difference to me, both of them write well.

Wakeness
09-02-2005, 04:12 PM
Lyrics are pretty important to me. I get so sick of the same old shit.
I guess that's one of the many, many reasons that Origin rules.

Luke
09-02-2005, 05:21 PM
Mike DiSalvo is the reason I still take Cryptopsy seriously. No one matched his vocal aggression, stage performance, or lyricism for that matter. Him > 95% of dm vocalists.

bloodytear
09-02-2005, 08:18 PM
Mike was much more suited for Cryptopsy than Lord Worm. I also think that Whisper Supremacy is the best Cryptopsy release and i dont think thats gonna change.

Reincremation
09-02-2005, 08:19 PM
disalvo's lyrics were decent, nothing astounding or impressive.

Mol
09-02-2005, 09:34 PM
Mike was much more suited for Cryptopsy than Lord Worm. I also think that Whisper Supremacy is the best Cryptopsy release and i dont think thats gonna change.


Soooo true dude....

Symbolic Savior
09-03-2005, 12:25 AM
I also didn't mind Mike's work at all. And yes there are times when i did enjoy him over LW. But i love the fact that LW is back!

Tyler Durden
09-03-2005, 07:16 AM
I far prefer Mike DiSalvo's audible brutal delivery to Lord Worm's indecipherable dog growls. I'm not a big fan of unintelligble vocals. What's the fucking point of lyrics if you can't hear them properly? I know people would say, 'That's what you have a lyric sheet for, asshole!', but sometimes even with the lyric sheet you lose your way.

Still... I don't much give a shit for Lord Worm's vocal style, but I still buy the albums and I'd go to see them live (if they ever book a show in my town) - I'm in it for the music and thankfully Cryptopsy still deliver musically if no longer vocally!

Reincremation
09-03-2005, 09:19 AM
you sound like my friend...he hates DM, but he got into None So Vile a year ago and listens to it all the time, but...he bitches at me because of the vocals, hehe.

Antæos
09-03-2005, 09:22 AM
Mike DiSalvo is the reason I still take Cryptopsy seriously. No one matched his vocal aggression, stage performance, or lyricism for that matter. Him > 95% of dm vocalists.

You hit the spot man! There's just some kind of fury in Mike's vocals that you don't find anywhere else. This, apparently, is by most mistaken as rapping, or whatever dirty words in that category you can come up with. His style was unique and I miss him dearly, I hope LW can pull through on the new album though.

andy9279
09-03-2005, 09:56 AM
I may be repeating myself a little here, but oh well. Lord Worm to me is more "traditional" death metal which i like...but with Mike its like the band took a totally new direction. More technical, and progressive in several ways (rhythm especially on ATYB).

I think theres a pretty big difference between LW vocals on BMF compared to NSV...*way* more unrestrained and chaotic on BMF:

-The alien screams contained at the beginning of Abigor...and then at 2:30.
-The 30-second long scream at the end of Open Face Surgery.
-The screams in Serial Messiah at 3:05.
-The beginning to Gravaged (A Cryptopsy).
-And that fucking amazing thing he does on Memories of Blood at 1:00.

You just dont find that stuff on NSV...or much of anywhere else for that matter. So often in death metal the vocals (at least in my mind) are more in the background...on BMF LW managed to bring em to the front a little more.

I like NSV more, but if you asked me which is more raw, "advanced" and nihilistic vocally...BMF all the way.

Tyler Durden
09-03-2005, 12:35 PM
Yeah... I kind of agree with a lot of this shit... I know Lord Worm will always have his die-hard fans, but I just find it really difficult to take his vocals seriously with them being so indecipherable. Whilst watching their new Troi-Rivieres Fest 'live' DVD, you can visibly hear and see the lack of legible word content in his vocal delivery style (kind of like that John Tardy spazongotard voice that is his own signature sound). This isn't necessarily a bad thing... but I do wish they got a new unheard vocalist in and didn't go forward in reverse...

Martin LaCroix was an awesome vocalist, and his vocals were similar in nature to Lord Worm but sounded very legible. Some may even say he was the perfect blend of Worm / DiSalvo. It's a shame it didn't work out with him as far as a studio album went...

Mike DiSalvo has had a lot of complaints with his style from the diehards, with ludicrous labels of sounding, 'rap'. (Excuse me a moment while I spew with laughing so hard!) As far as I'm concerned Mike's vocals fitted perfectly with the symbiotic polydisrhythmic chaos of Cryptopsy music.

I still look forward to the new album though...

carrionshine
09-03-2005, 01:19 PM
BMF: LW sounded good
NSV : lw killed us all
WS : MD sounded good
ATYB : MD sounded awfull

Luke
09-03-2005, 03:07 PM
Mike DiSalvo's vocal work on Whisper Supremacy was relentless and pounding. No other vocal performance could compare in the way he delivered on that release.

Cloaca
09-04-2005, 02:01 AM
BMF: LW sounded good
NSV : lw killed us all
WS : MD sounded good
ATYB : MD sounded awfull
Right on.

stabwound
09-04-2005, 04:25 AM
Mike was much more suited for Cryptopsy than Lord Worm. I also think that Whisper Supremacy is the best Cryptopsy release and i dont think thats gonna change.

Grindmasterflesh
09-04-2005, 08:05 AM
I prefer lord worm on the none so vile

DeadInMagazines
09-05-2005, 09:44 AM
i like both vocalists. i found mike annoying on And Then You'll Beg, but he did a great job on Whisper Supremacy.

Word.

bloodytear
09-05-2005, 02:10 PM
BMF: LW sounded good
NSV : lw killed us all
WS : MD sounded good
ATYB : MD sounded awfull

I see it kinda like this
BMF: Lord Worm did a damn good job
NSV: Lord Worm bit hard
WS: Mike did one of the best performances in DM
ATYB: yeah whatever.

JohnnyJihad
09-07-2005, 06:30 AM
I enjoy both vocalists, as singers and lyricists.

brutalmotherfuck
09-07-2005, 10:06 AM
Disalvo made me forget Cryptopsy existed until now that LW is back. I rememeber buying Whisper Supremacy the day it came out and being instantly disappointed. I was surprised because I have the demos of mike's old band Infestation and they werent bad. So I sold Whisper Supremacy, never bothered to buy And then youll beg, and that brings me to today where I hope I can enjoy the new cryptopsy like old again. Like Ive said, all these rumours of experimentation will cause me to have to listen to this album first before I spend money on it

Wakeness
09-07-2005, 10:56 AM
I enjoy both vocalists, as singers and lyricists.

Good Call.

Reincremation
09-07-2005, 01:16 PM
Disalvo made me forget Cryptopsy existed until now that LW is back. I rememeber buying Whisper Supremacy the day it came out and being instantly disappointed. I was surprised because I have the demos of mike's old band Infestation and they werent bad. So I sold Whisper Supremacy, never bothered to buy And then youll beg, and that brings me to today where I hope I can enjoy the new cryptopsy like old again. Like Ive said, all these rumours of experimentation will cause me to have to listen to this album first before I spend money on it


dude, you gotta give Whisper Supremacy another spin or two. that's the only record i've ever heard that never loses its intensity no matter how many times you play it. i've heard ion dissonance, gorguts, you name it. Whisper Supremacy is still the most extreme thing i've ever encountered.

JohnnyJihad
09-07-2005, 08:49 PM
Good Call.

Both of them have their own weaknesses and strengths..

It seems stupid as hell to me at least... to write one of them off or call disalvo a poser/"hardcore fag" or whatever else people say.

They're just different vocalists. Different things to appreciate in their styles.

In Vermis Veritas
09-08-2005, 04:34 AM
I'm with you guys: while different, Mike brought his own style to the table and I thought he did a fantastic job.

Sell my copy of "Whisper Supremacy?" Yikes, that's a painful thought! I'm not selling any of my Cryptopsy cds!

Cloaca
09-08-2005, 05:48 AM
dude, you gotta give Whisper Supremacy another spin or two. that's the only record i've ever heard that never loses its intensity no matter how many times you play it. i've heard ion dissonance, gorguts, you name it. Whisper Supremacy is still the most extreme thing i've ever encountered.
You should know good ol' Brutalmotherfuck, he likes it as straightforward and brutal (who would have guessed) as possible.

seedsofthesuffering
09-08-2005, 08:41 AM
Disalvo was a good vocalist, but glad to see Worm back; classic vocals one of a kind.

porphyria
09-08-2005, 02:45 PM
Mike D. > Lord Worm

Lord Worm is a nice guy so don't get me wrong, but I prefer Mike's vocals because they fit better with the music. So lord worm eats worms? so what, if I wanted to watch people eat gross shit I'd watch NBC's fear factor.

pascal123
09-17-2005, 10:11 AM
About Lord Worm. I just cannot understand why some people like his voice. His voice is unintelligible, and I feel anyone (even my boss, he did it) can sing better, with more power and agressivity than him. It is because of lack of talent like this that many people does not take heavy metal as a serious music genre. To me, a singer has to be able to do something that most cannot. It is so easy to scream without prononciating correctly and I think it removes a lot of power to the performance of the band. George Fisher from cannibal corpse scream like a satanic lion and is still understandable, and few signers can mimic that. Of course this is my personnal opinion. By growing older, most people tend to differenciate between talent and easiness (or laziness), I used to like the voice of Chris Barnes on tomb of the mutilated.

pascal123
09-17-2005, 10:14 AM
Of course, now I am very bored of the tomb of the mutilated album because of the laziness of the signer.

AVYEL
09-26-2005, 05:28 AM
Lord Worm brings the insane voice that all brutal death metal band must have.
Mike in my opinion has nothing to do with Cryptopsy

Yertle4
09-26-2005, 07:36 AM
I like Mike's vocals a lot personally, but the "Cryptopsy vocalist issue" is entirely relative and personal.... I didn't like Worm's vocals on NSV -AT ALL- and it pretty much ruins that album for me, but I like his vocals on OWN. So blah.

Tyler Durden
09-26-2005, 08:57 AM
About Lord Worm. I just cannot understand why some people like his voice. His voice is unintelligible, and I feel anyone (even my boss, he did it) can sing better, with more power and agressivity than him. It is because of lack of talent like this that many people does not take heavy metal as a serious music genre. To me, a singer has to be able to do something that most cannot. It is so easy to scream without prononciating correctly and I think it removes a lot of power to the performance of the band. George Fisher from cannibal corpse scream like a satanic lion and is still understandable, and few signers can mimic that. Of course this is my personnal opinion. By growing older, most people tend to differenciate between talent and easiness (or laziness), I used to like the voice of Chris Barnes on tomb of the mutilated.

I totally agree...

cagedbychrist
09-26-2005, 03:00 PM
This is an argument that will never end. I liked Mike's vocals but I dont understand people saying they fit the music better, Cryptopsy is insane, Lord Worm is insane. Mike's vocals did get annoying after a while, he really didnt do any growls, it was a lot of the same delivery. Eh, the fact that the playing on WS was so good, makes me dismiss the sub par vocals.

NoneSoVile
09-26-2005, 03:33 PM
Ahh the old Worm/DiSalvo debate, It's like asking the square root of a million, It will never be solved.

Fisting The Dead
09-27-2005, 11:26 AM
The Barnes/Fisher argument is the same.

LW>Michael
Barnes>Fisher

End thread.

porphyria
09-27-2005, 11:40 AM
Cryptopsy is insane, Lord Worm is insane.

how is lord worm insane? because he eats worms?

I see people eating worms and buffalo testicles on NBC's fear factor all the time.

BRING BACK MIKE!