TWO NEW OPETH SONGS LEAKED

[Pwnsauce]

I hope the RIAA doesn't come get me! :emot-eek:

http://sharebee.com/226e2966
http://sharebee.com/436a1825

[Woody]

awesome, downloading..

[Logan]

i hope this is real

[Woody]

it is, the quality is pretty good too

[Logan]

wow. the lotus eater kicks fuckin ass. porcelain heart was really good too.

[Pwnsauce]

5:50 of Lotus Eater is sick

[Logan]

why are the tracklengths so much shorter than the supposed lengths that leaked a while ago?

[Logan]

5:50 of Lotus Eater is sick

oh man that part was so unexpected. that was awesome. this song = godly.

[ChAAPY]

upon first listen, it sounds like it will definitely be better than GR, but that's not saying much.

not really blown away but I'm interested to hear the whole album.

[SLIT YOUR GUTZ]

This album won't disappoint

[Tzimisce]

Opeth with blastbeats!? :eek:

[SLIT YOUR GUTZ]

Opeth with blastbeats!? :eek:

FTW

[Logan]

FTW

agreed.

[Saldiac]

Already knew from a source close to the band that they had incorporated some blastbeats.
"The lotus eater" sounds really good.

[Archaeon]

opeth with slam

[Tzimisce]

Man, if the rest of the album holds up, this might be the best thing they've done since Still Life... maybe ever.

[smorgasborg]

Already knew from a source close to the band that they had incorporated some blastbeats.
"The lotus eater" sounds really good.

well aren't you special.

[Amphigore]

holy shit! blast beats...this is awesome

[smorgasborg]

I'm not feeling some of the vocals on Lotus Eater.

[Saldiac]

well aren't you special.
You can call me Snowflake.

[detazathoth]

Opeth with blastbeats!? :eek:

I came thrice

[Schraiber]

Holy shit... Lotus Eaters!!! BLAST BEATS WITH CLEAN VOCALS!!! MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!!!

[flayedandskinned]

i don't like this band. what is their most "death metal" album?

[Curto32]

Deliverance.

[HarmonyInTorture]

Deliverance.

No.

My Arms, Your Hearse.

[Logan]

ghost reveries!!111!!! lawl. but seriously i dont get the hate on it, its a good album. not as good as others (my favourite from what ive listened to being blackwater park), but its still good.

[Tzimisce]

Ghost Reveries is one of their best albums.

[sideslash]

ghost reveries is fucking awesome. chaapy seems to hate on everything these days.

[ChAAPY]

Ghost Reveries is one of their best albums.

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10063/2001_space_odessy_fail.jpg

chaapy seems to hate on everything these days.

obZen baby!!! haha. that'll happen.

[Of Divine Nature]

fucking yesssssssssssssss.

i'm just as excited as the kid in pwnsauce's sig.

[sideslash]

uh, yeah.. obzen is the only thing i can recall you even remotely praising recently. and i seem to remember you even being highly critical of that, initially saying "combustion" sucked, etc.

[sideslash]

as a longtime opeth fan, i can confidently say GR is one of their best albums. not THE best, but it's fucking quality and certainly up there. hardly a fail by tzimisce.

[Of Divine Nature]

i like ghost reveries simply because of this
http://opethtacos.ytmnd.com/

[Tzimisce]

:emot-LMAO

[ChAAPY]

uh, yeah.. obzen is the only thing i can recall you even remotely praising recently. and i seem to remember you even being highly critical of that, initially saying "combustion" sucked, etc.

haha, I was poking fun by saying that the reason I've been hatin lately is because I can't get over listening to obZen.

but yeah, first time I heard the new Meshuggah I was very disappointed. I was expecting the other tracks to live up to Bleed but they didn't connect with me on the first listen. Combustion was a major let down too, but I've come around.

and as a long time Opeth fan myself, I'm just not into anything after Blackwater really. Damnation is cool, but I've kind of lost interest is this band now. Still Life is still one of my favorite metal CD's of all time though, love that album.

[sideslash]

it's cool man, you can like/dislike what you want, i'm just making on observation. ;p

[ChAAPY]

word. speaking of Opeth, when does that DtS Still Life come out?

will you still be able to play the disc on a regular stereo set-up and get semi-decent results?

Feels kind of weird to buy it if you don't have 5.1

[sideslash]

yes. even if you're not hearing it in true surround sound, the audio tracks are still high-definition and multi-channel. there is so much more audio data than a normal CD, so the sound is much more vibrant and defined, even on a 2-speaker setup. listening on a 5 speaker system does maximize the eargasming potential of the format, though.

not sure when it comes out.

[ten_second_infinity]

Saying Ghost Reveries is "awesome," when Opeth have released such masterpieces as THEIR WHOLE DISCOGRAPHY is disturbing. Ghost Reveries is "meh" in comparison to everything else they have done. With that said, I'll wait until the album leaks to listen.

[sideslash]

the fact that you are disturbed by someone else's opinion is disturbing.

[ten_second_infinity]

Why is that disturbing? It's disturbing that a lot of people listen to Six Feet Under and think it's good music, or listen to Annotations of An Autopsy and think they're the most brutal shit in DM... or people who review the new Job For A Cowboy and say "It's a refreshing kick that the stagnating death metal scene needed." Being disturbed by someone's opinion is completely normal.

A shame that Opeth's ACE discography was fucked by GC.

[ChAAPY]

Why is that disturbing? It's disturbing that a lot of people listen to Six Feet Under and think it's good music, or listen to Annotations of An Autopsy and think they're the most brutal shit in DM... or people who review the new Job For A Cowboy and say "It's a refreshing kick that the stagnating death metal scene needed." Being disturbed by someone's opinion is completely normal.

A shame that Opeth's ACE discography was fucked by GC.

listen to the new songs posted here. what do you think?

[Shred The Ganja]

I think both of these songs are fantastic, way better then ghost reveries. I love every album besides that one. Mikael's vocals sound pretty wicked and his clean singing shines as always. New drummer sounds pretty damn good so i guess that solves that. Lots of cool guitar stuff!

[foreign10]

Ghost Reveries is fucking awesome.

[BZM]

This is fucking incredible. Oh, and Ghost Reveries was the shit.

[1by1]

*cums*

[sideslash]

Why is that disturbing? It's disturbing that a lot of people listen to Six Feet Under and think it's good music, or listen to Annotations of An Autopsy and think they're the most brutal shit in DM... or people who review the new Job For A Cowboy and say "It's a refreshing kick that the stagnating death metal scene needed." Being disturbed by someone's opinion is completely normal.

A shame that Opeth's ACE discography was fucked by GC.




give me a break dude, that's a terrible analogy. i guess i should have specified, but what i meant was that someone's opinion on opeth albums shouldn't bother you.

i and many other longtime opeth fans think ghost reveries is fucking great. get over it.

[ten_second_infinity]

How was that a terrible analogy? You said opinions shouldn't disturb me, and that's ludicrous. you're looking way too into it, just because i said "disturbing" doesn't mean I'm sitting in my room thinking about nothing else except that.

get over what? Opeth was the first band I listened to that got me into metal, 7 years ago, they've been my favourite band since then. So don't tell me "i and other long time fans..." bull shit, because I AM a longtime fan. I don't care THAT much that you and a few others like that shitty album, i was just making a comment. haha

fuckin' Chaapy, now I see what you're saying.

[Tzimisce]

Well, I've been listening to Opeth for NINE years, and I say GR rules!

[BZM]

let's measure our dicks while we're at it, guys.

[ten_second_infinity]

well, you already lost. that's no fun.

[BZM]

my statement was rhetorical?

[sideslash]

it is a terrible fucking analogy, and if you don't see that you're blind. six feet under, JFAC, and annotations of an autopsy? you can do better than that.

i already specified what i meant in my last post. this thread is about the new songs and all you can input is that people thinking your favorite band's latest album is "awesome" is disturbing. your life must suck.

[ten_second_infinity]

my statement was rhetorical?

oh, really? because I thought we were really going to pull out our cocks, take pictures of them next to measuring tape and compare sizes.

[sideslash]

nah, we don't all show our dicks on webcams to impress girls on the internet.

[ChAAPY]

I love you guys.

[JohnnyJihad]

oh, really? because I thought we were really going to pull out our cocks, take pictures of them next to measuring tape and compare sizes.

haha

[Schraiber]

wtf, this thread got all personal...

[ten_second_infinity]

it is a terrible fucking analogy, and if you don't see that you're blind. six feet under, JFAC, and annotations of an autopsy? you can do better than that.

i already specified what i meant in my last post. this thread is about the new songs and all you can input is that people thinking your favorite band's latest album is "awesome" is disturbing. your life must suck.


Yeah, dude, my life sucks, I go to school and I come home write music and jam all day. Horrible life, let me tell you. Every time someone makes the smallest comment that you disagree with, you have to go out of your way and let them know that the reason they think that way is because they are an idiot or are fucking stupid, and then proceed to write paragraphs trying to belittle them. It is amusing.

An analogy would be me comparing those bands to Opeth. Which I was not. I was using those as examples of peoples opinions that I have heard that have "disturbed" me. YOU made the claim that opinions should not disturb me, and in response, I gave you 3 opinions of people that did. So, no, it isnt a terrible "analogy." Because you made it clear that YOU should have worded it differently, AFTER my initial post.

This thread is fair-game in regards to OPETH. People mentioned "this is better than GR, this is not better than GR" I said I would wait until the album leaked to listen to it and basically said I hope it was better than their last piece of shit. You take offense, like you do to everyone that does not have the same opinion as you, and go on a crusade to erect your E-dick. Fine by me.

In one of your subsequent responses you're going to say "well I'm not even bothered by it I'm sitting here smoking a bowl listening to whoever." Yeah, none of us are. The internet is not serious business.

[1by1]

they like the cawks
[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/billyatbrooklyn/keke.jpg

[quartertroll]

Holy shit... Lotus Eaters!!! BLAST BEATS WITH CLEAN VOCALS!!! MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!!!

Then you should also check out the song "Axiom" by Akercocke. You'll find the video at Youtube.

[Moltroll]

A shame that Opeth's ACE discography was fucked by GC.

Agreed, easily their weakest CD imo.

[Fractal_Mortality]

Ghost Reveries is fucking awesome.

Agreed. I have never understood the disdain for that album... Beyond being an excellent part of their discography it's really.... Not all that different from their other full-length material released in the 2000s.

[Tzimisce]

Better, I'd say. I liked it more than Blackwater Park or Deliverance.

[Moltroll]

Better, I'd say. I liked it more than Blackwater Park or Deliverance.

:emot-shak

[Holo]

Fuck this rules!

[Silence Is Deafening]

awesome, downloading..

[Tomes of Deceit]

Ghost Reveries is fucking great; I have a sense that a lot of people who don't like it aren't as into prog or something.

I'm listening to The Lotus Eater now...fucking awesome!!! I can't wait for this album. This song is soo good. Judging by this track I do think it will be better than GR.

[Tomes of Deceit]

Better, I'd say. I liked it more than Blackwater Park or Deliverance.

I don't know about Blackwater Park, but I like GR about 5 times more than Deliverance...

[NovaReaper]

they like the cawks
[http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/billyatbrooklyn/keke.jpg

the little kid has a hard on? bricks not shat

[Silence Is Deafening]

Opeth with blastbeats!? This is awesome.

[Rottenatomy]

it is a terrible fucking analogy, and if you don't see that you're blind. six feet under, JFAC, and annotations of an autopsy? you can do better than that.

i already specified what i meant in my last post. this thread is about the new songs and all you can input is that people thinking your favorite band's latest album is "awesome" is disturbing. your life must suck.When someone say shit on an album that you love, or that everybody loves, dont you find it disturbing?

Like Tzimisce opinions. most are disturbing to me.

[EndlessCure]

Fucking AWESOME songs, shit!

[Lichtbringer]

Then you should also check out the song "Axiom" by Akercocke.

Exactly what I was thinking. Plus clean guitars! Amazingly weird song.

I refuse to listen to these... I know the album probably will be awesome, as I love everthing Opeth have done. I also recall someone saying one especially great part about Opeth was that every fan has a different favourite album, which I strongly agree with. 'Ghost Reveries' is certainly not their best work and maybe my least favourite as well, but it still has some really great songs on it.

[Antæos]

This stuff sounds excellent

[Vaginal.Infestation]

This stuff sounds excellent

[ten_second_infinity]

Then you should also check out the song "Axiom" by Akercocke. You'll find the video at Youtube.

Yes!
When someone say shit on an album that you love, or that everybody loves, dont you find it disturbing?

Like Tzimisce opinions. most are disturbing to me.

Pretty much my point.

[Kris]

there are things about the songs I like, and things I dont like... kinda 50/50 on it atm. Im dissapointed with the clean vox mostly though I think

[Ouroboros]

word. speaking of Opeth, when does that DtS Still Life come out?

will you still be able to play the disc on a regular stereo set-up and get semi-decent results?

Feels kind of weird to buy it if you don't have 5.1

You probably know this, but you'll need a DVD player to listen to it at all, since it will be DVD-A (lol). But yeah, it would be pretty pointless to listen to it on a stereo setup, since it will be summing the surround mix into two channels, and things won't be heard as they are supposed to be. They might have a 2.0 Dolby Stereo option on the disc, which would be a good idea. Also, I really doubt they recorded the album with 96kHz sample rate, so, you won't hear any marked increase in sound quality, since it will likely be upsampled from 44.1kHz.

[BZM]

The increase in sound quality is INSANE, are you crazy? Now, with the Ghost Reveries 5.1 mix, the sound quality jump isn't quite as marked.

[ChAAPY]

You probably know this, but you'll need a DVD player to listen to it at all, since it will be DVD-A (lol). But yeah, it would be pretty pointless to listen to it on a stereo setup, since it will be summing the surround mix into two channels, and things won't be heard as they are supposed to be. They might have a 2.0 Dolby Stereo option on the disc, which would be a good idea. Also, I really doubt they recorded the album with 96kHz sample rate, so, you won't hear any marked increase in sound quality, since it will likely be upsampled from 44.1kHz.

Pretty much exactly everything I was thinking.

I understand there will be some improvements, but playing a 5.1 mix in stereo just doesn't cut it for me. Pretty much defeats the whole purpose of it in the first place.

Only way I could listen to this would be to put it in my Xbox (if that would even work, lol) and listen to it with my shitty 5.1 setup.

meh.

*edit* props on DVDA reference. Matt and Trey's band rules! haha.

[foreign10]

Agreed. I have never understood the disdain for that album... Beyond being an excellent part of their discography it's really.... Not all that different from their other full-length material released in the 2000s.
I think it is pretty different from their other stuff actually. it's hard to pinpoint exactly what it might be, but it stands out more from their other albums. to me at least.

[quartertroll]

Exactly what I was thinking. Plus clean guitars! Amazingly weird song.

Definitely one of the best on Antichrist. And when I first heard it, I honestly thought "Opeth could learn a thing or two from this", because the style shifts are much less predictable and formulaic, and the actual parts forming the whole are better defined in their respective characters.

[Tzimisce]

Just preordered...

OPETH - Watershed (Collectors Edition CD/DVD) (w/autographed booklet + poster) 1 OPETH - Watershed (Collectors Edition CD/DVD)
$20.99

[Living Monstrosity]

where?

[Tzimisce]

www.theendrecords.com

[ten_second_infinity]

Just preordered...

OPETH - Watershed (Collectors Edition CD/DVD) (w/autographed booklet + poster) 1 OPETH - Watershed (Collectors Edition CD/DVD)
$20.99

Nice.

[Shred The Ganja]

there are things about the songs I like, and things I dont like... kinda 50/50 on it atm. Im dissapointed with the clean vox mostly though I think

What didn't you like about the clean vocals? I think they sound awesome as always.

[Tomes of Deceit]

Yeah the clean vocals sound awesome. I think they improved a lot starting on Ghost Reveries because it seemed to stop being such a duality between really heavy and really mellow and became more varied. But at the same time it seems that those intermediate vocals turn some people off.

[Shred The Ganja]

I suppose......I think hes always had fantastic clean vocals. "Benighted"...."Face of melinda".....classic.

[BZM]

Hours Of Wealth cleans... <3

[Curto32]

Hours of Wealth guitar solo... <3

[Nun Stampede!]

OMG SOLDIER OF FORTUNE LOL

[foreign10]

"Hours of Wealth" everything! everything about that song is awesome.

[whiteworms]

opeth could drastically and instantly improve all of their material if they would cut out the 8 extraneous repeats they give nearly every riff.

[Shred The Ganja]

opeth could drastically and instantly improve all of their material if they would cut out the 8 extraneous repeats they give nearly every riff.

opeth is classic.....no change needed.

[sideslash]

opeth could drastically and instantly improve all of their material if they would cut out the 8 extraneous repeats they give nearly every riff.



not surprising coming from someone who likes the new cryptopsy.

[Shred The Ganja]

not surprising coming from someone who likes the new cryptopsy.

oh, well yea then that makes perfect sense then.

[whiteworms]

not surprising coming from someone who likes the new cryptopsy.

one thing you can never accuse cryptopsy of, even on the new one, is being overly repetitious.

[sideslash]

neither is brain drill, see you next tuesday, or countless other awful bands i can think of. it's still shit music.

[Tzimisce]

What the fuck is up with people claiming Opeth are too repetitive? Christ, have these people never heard Summoning or Swans? THOSE are repetitive. Opeth merely sustain riffs for as long as they need to be sustained, often with subtle but important variations.

[Shred The Ganja]

one thing you can never accuse cryptopsy of, even on the new one, is being overly repetitious.

who cares.....that album is an abomination. Seriously man, i brought it over to my buddys house last night because he insisted on hearing it no matter what I said.

The dude took it out of the CD player and threw it in the garbage half way through and said "well thats that". We preceded to put blotted science back on and drink some more captain morgan.

[whiteworms]

neither is brain drill, see you next tuesday, or countless other awful bands i can think of. it's still shit music.

true, but my point wasn't about cryptopsy, yours was. im just saying i could do without the excessive repetition in opeth. doesn't mean i don't like 'em :emot-blin

[ChAAPY]

repetition has nothing to do with it, their ideas are just getting lackluster.

[Shred The Ganja]

boooo!!!!

[ChAAPY]

urns

[whiteworms]

who cares.....that album is an abomination. Seriously man, i brought it over to my buddys house last night because he insisted on hearing it no matter what I said.

The dude took it out of the CD player and threw it in the garbage half way through and said "well thats that". We preceded to put blotted science back on and drink some more captain morgan.

dude, this is an opeth thread :D

as for the unspoken king, yeah, compared to old cryptopsy, it's pretty disappointing. when i first listened to it, i still had hopes of it kicking my ass the way whisper supremacy did. when it didn't, i was pretty unhappy.

but for what it is, i really don't think it's that bad. it won't be very high in my rotation, but i won't mind popping it in once in a while as a break from some of the heavier stuff. i do kind of wish they had changed their name before releasing it, though, since they abandoned a lot of what made cryptopsy cryptopsy.

[Tzimisce]

repetition has nothing to do with it, their ideas are just getting lackluster.

Not as lackluster as your mom... in bed...

[ChAAPY]

that was pathetic.

[Tzimisce]

that was pathetic.
Then my work here is done.

[whiteworms]

What the fuck is up with people claiming Opeth are too repetitive? Christ, have these people never heard Summoning or Swans? THOSE are repetitive. Opeth merely sustain riffs for as long as they need to be sustained, often with subtle but important variations.

http://ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/opeth_tabs.htm

show me the tab where they repeat something with "subtle but important variations."

[Tzimisce]

intro to "Moonlapse Vertigo"...

[whiteworms]

intro to "Moonlapse Vertigo"...

meh. ok, ill give you that, but i don't hear how what they're doing really needs as much emphasis as it gets in that intro.

[sideslash]

the intro to moonlapse vertigo is fucking brilliant, one of my favorite opeth moments ever. do you not recognize the value of atmosphere in music? that's what the repetition is all about.

[ten_second_infinity]

meh. ok, ill give you that, but i don't hear how what they're doing really needs as much emphasis as it gets in that intro.

:emot-fail :emot-fail

[Tomes of Deceit]

http://ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/opeth_tabs.htm

show me the tab where they repeat something with "subtle but important variations."

Man, how clueless can you be posting a list of guitar tabs and asking where the "subtle but important variations" are? Music is a conversation between instruments; the build up of a song during a repetitive riff could relate to the drumming, vocals, bass, or keys and how they interact with the guitar line. You're never going to get that by reading a tab. If you're posting tab to back up your claim, that seems to signify to me that you think of music as nothing more than a collection of riffs. And if that's the case, you're never going to understand Opeth fully, or lots of other great music for that matter.

I suppose......I think hes always had fantastic clean vocals. "Benighted"...."Face of melinda".....classic.

Don't get me wrong, there isn't a single Opeth track where I don't think the vocals are done well. What I'm getting at is that the overall aesthetic effect of some of their music became almost monotonous to me because the clean vocals seemed so homogeneous. On Blackwater Park, by the time I get to Dirge for November with the opening line "lost, here is nowhere", I have this sick kind of feeling of hearing that exact same tone of voice - like the emotion conveyed in every mellow part was the same. (I'm exaggerating the point a little bit to try to better explain what I'm getting at - I fucking love Blackwater Park after all) I just find that the singing on their newer material makes for a more balanced listen overall.

[phagist_]

Gonna wait this one out til June 2nd (or is it 1st?)... but fuck I cannot wait!

[whiteworms]

Man, how clueless can you be posting a list of guitar tabs and asking where the "subtle but important variations" are? Music is a conversation between instruments; the build up of a song during a repetitive riff could relate to the drumming, vocals, bass, or keys and how they interact with the guitar line. You're never going to get that by reading a tab. If you're posting tab to back up your claim, that seems to signify to me that you think of music as nothing more than a collection of riffs. And if that's the case, you're never going to understand Opeth fully, or lots of other great music for that matter.

i was trying to make a point, not prove one. my point was that they could make their point a hell of a lot more quickly than they do, and sacrifice nothing but repetitions they didn't need in the first place. listening to opeth is often like talking to a verbose friend: you like hanging out with him, but sometimes you just want to slap him and say "get to the point!"

[BZM]

lmao, it sounds like you know nothing about songwriting. i bet you like between the buried and me (new stuff only plz -you)

[whiteworms]

lmao, it sounds like you know nothing about songwriting. i bet you like between the buried and me (new stuff only plz -you)

:emot-blin

actually, ive been following them since they first came out. im not so big on colors. alaska was good enough i suppose, but i thought silent circus was pretty decent.

[Fractal_Mortality]

Nothing wrong with Opeth's songwriting or (newer era) BtBaM's.

One must only realize that they serve two completely different aims, which they excel at.

[quartertroll]

What the fuck is up with people claiming Opeth are too repetitive? Christ, have these people never heard Summoning or Swans? THOSE are repetitive. Opeth merely sustain riffs for as long as they need to be sustained, often with subtle but important variations.

Er...Grand Conjuration anyone?

[detazathoth]

not surprising coming from someone who likes the new cryptopsy.

:emot-LOL:

[Stupefaction]

lmao, it sounds like you know nothing about songwriting. i bet you like between the buried and me (new stuff only plz -you)

The new Between the Buried and Me has some of the most engaging, well-written music I've ever heard.

[sideslash]

The new Between the Buried and Me has some of the most pretentious, self-indulgent music I've ever heard.


i think their songwriting is abysmal. their music is frequently just a series of unrelated parts/riffs strung together, with the occasional completely random (and often unoriginal - the mars volta and opeth ripoffs are just too blatant) excursion into prog wankery. and the pointless hokey parts they like to throw in make it impossible for me to take their music seriously.

[Stupefaction]

i think their songwriting is abysmal. their music is frequently just a series of unrelated parts/riffs strung together, with the occasional completely random (and often unoriginal - the mars volta and opeth ripoffs are just too blatant) excursion into prog wankery. and the pointless hokey parts they like to throw in make it impossible for me to take their music seriously.

Shut up and go vote for Bush, you close-minded asshole!

Really though, I just really like the way they write. I think Colors flows very well and the hokey parts just add to the awesomeness. But I'm in the minority there I guess.

[ten_second_infinity]

i think their songwriting is abysmal. their music is frequently just a series of unrelated parts/riffs strung together, with the occasional completely random (and often unoriginal - the mars volta and opeth ripoffs are just too blatant) excursion into prog wankery. and the pointless hokey parts they like to throw in make it impossible for me to take their music seriously.

I totally agree with this.

[ChAAPY]

are we talking about the new one?

cause Silent Circus was pretty cool! everything else this band has done makes me want to vomit.

[sideslash]

yeah, i dig the self-titled and most of the silent circus. they were still writing songs back then. :emot-LOL:

[ChAAPY]

word. their attempt at prog was pretty terrible. not so much the riffs and ideas, but the arrangement or those riffs/ideas was just unbearable for what it was trying to be IMO.

[sideslash]

agreed fully. like i said, they can't be hokey one minute and throw a random bluegrass jam into a metal song, and then expect people to their overly dramatic prog excursions serious the next. i'd rather just listen to crotchduster.

[ChAAPY]

MY MAMMAL SAUCE IS THE BEST MAMMAL SAUCE!

<3 Crotchduster

[sideslash]

listening again.. axenrot just fucking kills it.

[v2kv]

agreed fully. like i said, they can't be hokey one minute and throw a random bluegrass jam into a metal song, and then expect people to their overly dramatic prog excursions serious the next. i'd rather just listen to crotchduster.

They can do whatever they want :cool:

Going back to the topic, the new stuff is a huge improvement from Ghost Reveries I find.
For one they use the keys much more effectively on these two songs than on anything in Ghost Reveries.
Also Porcelain Heart makes me reminisce of the "classic" Opeth days...dunno why. It really reminds me of something off of Morningrise.

[sideslash]

it has a fairly doomy vibe to it, which can also be said for their earlier material.

the lotus eater reminds me of my arms your hearse.. the way it starts is so fucking furious! they haven't sounded that intense in years.

[v2kv]

the lotus eater reminds me of my arms your hearse.. the way it starts is so fucking furious! they haven't sounded that intense in years.

Yeah, the brutality is all Ax. He really impressed me this time around, I hope the rest of the album matches up to his drumming on that song.
I really see what Mike meant though when he said this would be some of their "darkest" stuff and I like the approach he took with vocals. Instead of making it sound like any other heavy Opeth song and using growls and screaming dominantly, he focused a lot on his clean, which added a really eerie effect I find. The keys also added to the "dark" mood of course, with the organ fills.

I see what you mean when you say it sounds like MAYH though, with his humming in the beginning especially...reminds me a lot of the "ahhhhh"s on that album lol.

[Amphigore]

God 4:59 in Porcelain Heart is AWESOME.

really digging this...The Lotus Eater moreso than Porcelain Heart, but i'm very impressed. Good to hear them moving forward instead of churning out another Ghost Reveries.


I will say...check the riff at 3:29 in porcelain heart and then listen to "Four Corners" by Daylight Dies....WEIRD :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ29JYPeVDs

[sideslash]

definitely similar, but i must say, i enjoy opeth's take on it much more. :O

[HarmonyInTorture]

I will not listen to this cd or any songs from it until the day it is released. I love Opeth too much.

[Shred The Ganja]

dude, this is an opeth thread :D

as for the unspoken king, yeah, compared to old cryptopsy, it's pretty disappointing. when i first listened to it, i still had hopes of it kicking my ass the way whisper supremacy did. when it didn't, i was pretty unhappy.

but for what it is, i really don't think it's that bad. it won't be very high in my rotation, but i won't mind popping it in once in a while as a break from some of the heavier stuff. i do kind of wish they had changed their name before releasing it, though, since they abandoned a lot of what made cryptopsy cryptopsy.

You were the first too mention cryptopsy, i dont ever want to talk about that dumb ass album.

[whiteworms]

You were the first too mention cryptopsy, i dont ever want to talk about that dumb ass album.

no, i wasn't. sideslash took a shot at me because i don't totally hate the new cryptopsy :emot-look

[Stupefaction]

listening again.. axenrot just fucking kills it.

Ax fucking destroys on this, like I knew he would. Not only does he bring the blast and the furious hits, but he also throws in some awesome groove. Check out 5:55 in The Lotus Eater. Great groove.

[Tzimisce]

Axe really does add a new dimension to the band. He's far and away the best drummer they've ever had.

[phagist_]

Lopez > Axenrot from what I've seen - only live videos (mind you I haven't listened to these tracks).

Just because of Lopez's grooves... but axe is probably more solid in the 'metal drumming' department

[Catpancakes]

i don't like this band. what is their most "death metal" album?

fail

[HarmonyInTorture]

fail

[sideslash]

Axe really does add a new dimension to the band. He's far and away the best drummer they've ever had.


this is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. lopez was pretty much impeccable and his style added significantly to the opeth's sound and development, and he has 5 albums of brilliant drumming with the band under his belt.

that being said, axe is a fantastic replacement.. every bit as fast and solid as lopez, with lots of style and finesse to his playing as well. whether he's better or not is not yet clear, nor is it important.. but saying he's "far and away" better than lopez is pretty absurd.

[ten_second_infinity]

Okay, Shay... I caved in. These two fucking songs are amazing. So refreshing to hear, jesus. Axenrot is definitely a great drummer, and I think he fits opeth's style, not like Lopez did. Lopez and Opeth were made for eachother, but Axenrot definitely holds his own and I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of this masterpiece in the making. Which leads me to...

this is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. lopez was pretty much impeccable and his style added significantly to the opeth's sound and development, and he has 5 albums of brilliant drumming with the band under his belt.

that being said, axe is a fantastic replacement.. every bit as fast and solid as lopez, with lots of style and finesse to his playing as well. whether he's better or not is not yet clear, nor is it important.. but saying he's "far and away" better than lopez is pretty absurd.

Agreed 100%, but if you haven't noticed by now, most of what he says is ridiculous.

[Tzimisce]

this is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. lopez was pretty much impeccable and his style added significantly to the opeth's sound and development, and he has 5 albums of brilliant drumming with the band under his belt.

that being said, axe is a fantastic replacement.. every bit as fast and solid as lopez, with lots of style and finesse to his playing as well. whether he's better or not is not yet clear, nor is it important.. but saying he's "far and away" better than lopez is pretty absurd.
Axe just strikes me as a more interesting and inventive player. Much better suited to a progressive band. Lopez was a solid metal drummer, but his drumming never really wowed me at all. It makes sense that he came from Amon Amarth, since his drumming was as unremarkable as their music.

[ten_second_infinity]

Where's the Latin love? Damn, you hear two songs and you already say he's "far and away" better than Lopez, haha. Then again, I loved Nordin's drumming on Orchid and most people who I talk to don't feel the same way.

[Tzimisce]

I always thought that up til now their best drumming was on Morningrise.

[v2kv]

this is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. lopez was pretty much impeccable and his style added significantly to the opeth's sound and development, and he has 5 albums of brilliant drumming with the band under his belt.

that being said, axe is a fantastic replacement.. every bit as fast and solid as lopez, with lots of style and finesse to his playing as well. whether he's better or not is not yet clear, nor is it important.. but saying he's "far and away" better than lopez is pretty absurd.

Thing about Lopez is he got really messed up later on in his career...couldn't even pull of some of the double kicks in Forest Of October when they played live :(
@ten_second_affinity

I really liked the drumming on Orchid.

[Logan]

Thing about Lopez is he got really messed up later on in his career...couldn't even pull of some of the double kicks in Forest Of October when they played live :(
@ten_second_affinity

I really liked the drumming on Orchid.

faggot.

[v2kv]

faggot.

HEY >:( it's rapist. Alright? Get it right next time.

[Logan]

HEY >:( it's rapist. Alright? Get it right next time.

lawl. i thought you went to bed, asshole.

[Amphigore]

I don't know what it is but Axe just hits HARD. great fucking groove on these tracks.

that said, he's horrible live. His tempo fucking drags, and his dynamics don't come close to Lopez - imagine the ending of "Deliverance" played waaaayyy too fucking slow. ALL the energy is sucked out and it's destroyed. I've seen opeth 5 times live and, regardless of what Mike said about his reliability, Lopez knew exactly when to push the tempo and dynamics in a live setting. Axe is a machine, I know...and (on the older songs at least) it kills Opeth as a live act.


but hey!! motherfuckers stare at the fretboard the whole time anyway! :emot-fail PROG METAL

[sideslash]

hmm, i'll have to disagree with you there. i've also seen them 5 times.. 3 times with lopez and twice with axe. the first time i saw axe was on his first tour with the band, and while he wasn't at lopez' level yet in terms of finesse and dynamics, he still impressed me with how solid he was. the second time was in late 2006, and he fucking blew me away with how flawlessly he played lopez' parts.

[Tomes of Deceit]

The first couple times I listened to these tracks I completely forgot that Axenrot was the drummer now and I didn't even pay particularly close attention to hear how he did. I'm listening now and I can say that he does a great job. I'll miss certain aspects of Lopez's playing that just can't be replaced, but Axenot is clearly bringing his own thing to the table.

[Tomes of Deceit]

jesus christ I love the Lotus Eater. The vocals are so fucking awesome, I love the bit at 2:43. It sounds so distinctive and catches my ear every time. It's so creative the shit they are doing vocally over blastbeats, and it fits perfectly. This cd is going to fucking own.

[Spew]

The new stuff sounds really promising. Can't stop listening.

[v2kv]

A lot of people on the official Opeth forum complained about Ax's fill 2:15-2:30 on Porcelain Heart. I personally thought it was awesome, and Mike himself commented saying their intention was to make it really random and chaotic, not to show of Ax obviously lol.

[Lichtbringer]

Definitely one of the best on Antichrist. And when I first heard it, I honestly thought "Opeth could learn a thing or two from this", because the style shifts are much less predictable and formulaic, and the actual parts forming the whole are better defined in their respective characters.

One thing I always loved about them is how it is absolutely impossible to tell where they're going to take a song. Then it goes the most absurd of all places and still manages to flow well.
I spun 'Choronzon' in the car today and holy shit is it awesome.

I always thought that up til now their best drumming was on Morningrise.

Then you fail. LOL @ the fill in 'To Bid You Farewell'.

[whiteworms]

thanks for the upload. i listened to 'em and, despite the fact that it's competently done, it feels disjointed to me.

i prefer their earlier stuff, even if it's a little longwinded. blackwater park has been the only recent offering i could get into.

[Tomes of Deceit]

A lot of people on the official Opeth forum complained about Ax's fill 2:15-2:30 on Porcelain Heart. I personally thought it was awesome, and Mike himself commented saying their intention was to make it really random and chaotic, not to show of Ax obviously lol.

That's fucking ridiculous! I just listened to that part, the drumming sounds fantastic. It obviously went over a lot of people's heads. Keeping the rest of the music at this steady pace while the drumming practically disentegrates around it is a pretty damn cool idea. I guess it is too jarring for the pussy ears of Opeth fans or something. :emot-LOL:

Damn, I had never noticed that part until you pointed it out. It's making me realize how much depth there is in these new tracks. I can't wait to hear the whole album.

[Shred The Ganja]

Posting on a bands message board complaining about one drum fill in a song is pretty fucking stupid.

[sideslash]

That's fucking ridiculous! I just listened to that part, the drumming sounds fantastic. It obviously went over a lot of people's heads. Keeping the rest of the music at this steady pace while the drumming practically disentegrates around it is a pretty damn cool idea. I guess it is too jarring for the pussy ears of Opeth fans or something. :emot-LOL:

Damn, I had never noticed that part until you pointed it out. It's making me realize how much depth there is in these new tracks. I can't wait to hear the whole album.



agree with this post 100%. that part is fucking brilliant and i hadn't really appreciated it until now.

[v2kv]

Posting on a bands message board complaining about one drum fill in a song is pretty fucking stupid.

I agree...not to mention, the Mods wouldn't even let me discuss the leaked songs. They were talking about closing a fucking thread down, just because the leaked songs were being discussed. I'm SURE the band won't take it personally if people are giving feedback, especially if the leaked stuff wasn't even posted.

[ChAAPY]

lol @ fans whining about a drum fill.

[sideslash]

a really interesting, dynamic drum fill no less. metal fans can be so musically narrow-minded.

[ChAAPY]

meh, I'm starting to open up to this a bit more now.

They'll never top the first four but... in "Porcelain Heart"... how could you NOT like that acoustic section?

Got to agree with Tomes about the clean vocals. Nice to hear him doing something else with them.

I just hope the album is a tad bit heavier.

[1by1]

dude...clean vocals and blast beats...how much heavier can it get? that part is ridiculously good

[Shred The Ganja]

i love his clean singing.....never gets old. I put these songs on my IPOD and have been jammin them ever since, i should prolly stop so i don't runi the album for me when it comes out.

[sideslash]

the kicks in the part right after the blasting, under the growling.. so fucking brutal!

[thecrownofhorns]

The Locust Eater is incredible, from the beginning to the end. Brilliance!

[Shred The Ganja]

i like porcelain hearts just as much

[Tomes of Deceit]

i like porcelain hearts just as much

Yeah that one has been growing on me a lot.

[Axlaf]

Album of the year. To the guys who say that Ghost Reveries is their "weakest imo" or some shit like that should pull their head out of the dark place and start LISTENING. Every record they have put out has been an reasonable/awesome progression from their last.

Opeth> every other metal/music in general....except Akercocke :emot-look

[Ouroboros]

The increase in sound quality is INSANE, are you crazy? Now, with the Ghost Reveries 5.1 mix, the sound quality jump isn't quite as marked.

Super delayed response...

But yeah, I haven't heard any Opeth in 5.1 at all, and when you hear an improvement in sound quality on a surround mix, it was either recorded originally in analog, then put through high end converters recording from tape to digital at 24 bit 96kHz, or it was recorded digitally at those sample rates in the first place. Upsampling (converting the audio from a 44.1 sample rate to 96 or whatever) doesn't increase sound quality, actually, if you do it all within the digital realm in software it will make the quality slightly to extremely worse, depending on the cleanliness of the algorithms changing the wordlength.

So, I am not insane, you just misunderstood what I was saying, I think...

[Ouroboros]

Basically, all that technical jargon aside, I wasn't saying that every surround mix has a similar quality to the stereo mix, but a lot of them do, because they are simply upsampling their original digital recordings, instead of doing it properly.

[Grindmasterflesh]

I am gonna wait until the full record leaks.

[Holo]

dude...clean vocals and blast beats...how much heavier can it get? that part is ridiculously good

I was so fucking crushed away by this!

[MyOwnSavior]

I'm not going to listen to those 2 songs yet, I'm saving myself for June 3rd. But from the comments, waiting has become even harder.

As for Ax, no doubt he's a great replacement. Check this (http://www.mediafire.com/?dl4jet9jdky) out.