Christian MetUhL Lawl

[BrianMED]

http://www.myspace.com/withbloodcomescleansing

fuck the lyrics, sounds bad ass though.

[Nun Stampede!]

Victory Records has officially extended its cold, soulless tentacles into the Deathcore genre. At least they aren't screwing anyone important.









Except for the great musicians in Between the Buried and Me, of course... ehhhh

[phish]

"...brutally vivid christian lyrics"

hahahaha

[underrealm]

Awesome, but...

Living Sacrifice >

[dactylSAUR]

shit.

[each uisge]

Damn, this band is pushing serious boundaries with their music and faith.

[Beasters]

this is garbage.

[astainedsky]

really gay

[BrianMED]

Awesome, but...

Living Sacrifice >

touche

[yeah]

BREEEE. GAHHHHHHH. CO-ROO GAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!


garbage.

[Logan]

band sucks

[Nun Stampede!]

awww.... he made it his avatar, cute.

[underrealm]

Awesome, but...

Living Sacrifice >
Dude, you're so totally right!

[ten_second_infinity]

Damn, this band is pushing serious boundaries with their music and faith.

:emot-LOL: :emot-LOL: :emot-LOL:

[Shaft]

Damn, this band is pushing serious boundaries with their music and faith.

hahahahahahahahahaha etc.

[MustangMan311]

Ugh, what a fucking waste of musical space. The first CD I loved, this CD I could shit on and feed to children. Fucking garbage.

[Djeez]

Christian Death Metal: http://www.myspace.com/officialcrimsonthorn

Sounds like your average Death Metal band.

[parabola5353]

www.myspace.com/becomingthearchetype

i always thought they were good.

[Jotun]

Lash By Lash > Lash Upon Lash

[Nun Stampede!]

As far as philosophy and all that good stuff goes, Christian Metal is a paradox.

[underrealm]

As far as philosophy and all that good stuff goes, Christian Metal is a paradox.

That may be debatable, but how do you come to this conclusion? Just curious...

[Reverend Ian]

as far as genres go, christian isn't one.

[Iain Austin]

religion has no place in music. true metal is for the freethinking men, not christians.

[Reverend Ian]

oh man you're just so inspiring sometimes

[Reverend Ian]

also 108 called and said you're a fucking retard

[Vriend]

Christian Death Metal: http://www.myspace.com/officialcrimsonthorn

Sounds like your average Death Metal band.
Pretty brutal vocals.

[Iain Austin]

also 108 called and said you're a fucking retard

good, 108 can suck my spiritual cock.

[underrealm]

I think Christianity certainly has a valid place within music, regardless of the genre. After all, music is a form of expression, right? So why wouldn't some Christians who dig metal not want to incorporate that ideology into their music?

[DillingerEscapePlan]

religion has no place in music. true metal is for the freethinking men, not christians.
I don't see how one religion makes better music than any other. Would you not enjoy BTBAM if they were all...Muslim...or Buddhists....or Christians?

[Reverend Ian]

I think Christianity certainly has a valid place within music, regardless of the genre. After all, music is a form of expression, right? So why wouldn't some Christians who dig metal not want to incorporate that ideology into their music?

exactly. Iain's too busy listening to cradle of filth to care though.

[Nun Stampede!]

That may be debatable, but how do you come to this conclusion? Just curious...

The early years of metal were a movement towards acceptance and logic. For instance, "death" themes normally were incorporated to express life in its natural form, since as mortals, it is inevitable. Themes and ideas were taken from Classical philosophy, art, and music. Its about thinking for yourself, not sheltering yourself or accepting what you're told because it's the path of least resistance, and analyzing where you are, and what is to come. Also, understanding emotional blockages, and removing them as much as possible, appreciating nature and embracing your place in it, among other things; you get the point. A lot of newer metal has turned its back on their roots, or focused on other things. Its made mostly by people who grew up enjoying the musical elements, but not getting into the deeper ideals of the artists. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, though.

Christianity is based more on faith. The scriptures are there for you to read, and dictate directly what they want you to do. Genesis tells you that nature is yours for the taking and that we are the chosen species. It's basically written by humans to benefit ourselves. Death is an unknown, so they put heaven behind it. Nature is there to rape for our benefit. God loves you all, no matter how bad you are, but gets pissed off when you commit what is considered sin in the church. It just seems like they've taken a lot for granted to me, and manipulated people into living the lives they want you to live. This is probably why its cool to just kill off any group of people that stand in the way, sell indulgences into heaven (I know its stopped, but you wonder what that means about the integrity of the religion in the first place).

Varg and a bunch of other black metal guys burned churches in the 90s, and all that jazz. Satan is used in metaphor a lot in metal, and its usually to mock or question Christianity. And Christians killed off most of the Greco-Roman culture that metal appreciates.

I think I am too tired to accurately get into great depth, right now.

[Reverend Ian]

That would all work really well if metal wasnt a sound rather than a set of ideologies and priniples. Too bad D:.

[Nun Stampede!]

thats the part that is debatable.

[Reverend Ian]

only faggots in long sleeved black tshirts with beards and long hair would debate that

[Nun Stampede!]

well, religion is basically a set of ideologies, so applying them to music that already have distinctly different ideologies doesn't make sense. but you're an ignorant piece of shit, and you aren't worth an attempt at an actual conversation. Maybe when the person who asked the question comes back, it will be worth discussing further. or when someone replies with an actual opinion.

[Reverend Ian]

I said that applying this rather rare strict set of ideals and opinions to metal in its entirety is contrived and ridiculous and a little narrow minded. Is this not in your eyes an opinion worth acknowledging or an opinion at all? Or you know you could smack talk like a kid some more.

[Nun Stampede!]

...thats not what you said. That would qualify as an opinion, and although it makes sense, id like to think you would have more respect for the origins of the genre than to label all partakers as "faggots in long sleeved black tshirts with beards and long hair". I never said that straying from the original roots was a "bad" thing, I just pointed out that completely reversing EVERYTHING that the two are about is kind of ridiculous.

[underrealm]

...thats not what you said. That would qualify as an opinion, and although it makes sense, id like to think you would have more respect for the origins of the genre than to label all partakers as "faggots in long sleeved black tshirts with beards and long hair". I never said that straying from the original roots was a "bad" thing, I just pointed out that completely reversing EVERYTHING that the two are about is kind of ridiculous.

I still thought that the origins of metal were still kind of a mystery? Who's to say that they had anything to do with religion at all? Guess that's debatable too, right? :)

[Reverend Ian]

...thats not what you said. That would qualify as an opinion, and although it makes sense, id like to think you would have more respect for the origins of the genre than to label all partakers as "faggots in long sleeved black tshirts with beards and long hair". I never said that straying from the original roots was a "bad" thing, I just pointed out that completely reversing EVERYTHING that the two are about is kind of ridiculous.

All i said was the the music is not about ideology, just not as clearly the first time. I didnt say anything about fans in general, just the stereotypical fat neckbeard death metal fan that has nothing of value in their life and i said nothing at all about origins or any of that shit. You just went off on that tangent on your own.

[BrianMED]

The early years of metal were a movement towards acceptance and logic. For instance, "death" themes normally were incorporated to express life in its natural form, since as mortals, it is inevitable. Themes and ideas were taken from Classical philosophy, art, and music. Its about thinking for yourself, not sheltering yourself or accepting what you're told because it's the path of least resistance, and analyzing where you are, and what is to come. Also, understanding emotional blockages, and removing them as much as possible, appreciating nature and embracing your place in it, among other things; you get the point. A lot of newer metal has turned its back on their roots, or focused on other things. Its made mostly by people who grew up enjoying the musical elements, but not getting into the deeper ideals of the artists. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, though.

Christianity is based more on faith. The scriptures are there for you to read, and dictate directly what they want you to do. Genesis tells you that nature is yours for the taking and that we are the chosen species. It's basically written by humans to benefit ourselves. Death is an unknown, so they put heaven behind it. Nature is there to rape for our benefit. God loves you all, no matter how bad you are, but gets pissed off when you commit what is considered sin in the church. It just seems like they've taken a lot for granted to me, and manipulated people into living the lives they want you to live. This is probably why its cool to just kill off any group of people that stand in the way, sell indulgences into heaven (I know its stopped, but you wonder what that means about the integrity of the religion in the first place).

Varg and a bunch of other black metal guys burned churches in the 90s, and all that jazz. Satan is used in metaphor a lot in metal, and its usually to mock or question Christianity. And Christians killed off most of the Greco-Roman culture that metal appreciates.

I think I am too tired to accurately get into great depth, right now.

it's true. not that I know much but most of these bands like to be called UNdeath metal and UNblack metal. Stupid, but that's what I heard, don't take it from me. Plus most of all those bands that say they're christian are full of shit most of them don't even have christian lyrics, all i hear is emo shit, and how the world sucks. Think about it, if america and canada had a high percentage of christian believers(which probably do), how would we know if these "christian" bands are just trying to earn more listeners by portraying their music is christan?, and we all know what that gets ya, a big chunk of guap. IMO I think it's just a scam.

[MustangMan311]

it's true. not that I know much but most of these bands like to be called UNdeath metal and UNblack metal. Stupid, but that's what I heard, don't take it from me. Plus most of all those bands that say they're christian are full of shit most of them don't even have christian lyrics, all i hear is emo shit, and how the world sucks. Think about it, if america and canada had a high percentage of christian believers(which probably do), how would we know if these "christian" bands are just trying to earn more listeners by portraying their music is christan?, and we all know what that gets ya, a big chunk of guap. IMO I think it's just a scam.

What a crock of shit.

[phish]

it's true. not that I know much but most of these bands like to be called UNdeath metal and UNblack metal. Stupid, but that's what I heard, don't take it from me. Plus most of all those bands that say they're christian are full of shit most of them don't even have christian lyrics, all i hear is emo shit, and how the world sucks. Think about it, if america and canada had a high percentage of christian believers(which probably do), how would we know if these "christian" bands are just trying to earn more listeners by portraying their music is christan?, and we all know what that gets ya, a big chunk of guap. IMO I think it's just a scam.

what the fuck are you even talking about

[BrianMED]

what the fuck are you even talking about

That soulja boy has more talent than BTBAM.

[tck!]

religion has no place in music. true metal is for the freethinking men, not christians.

Goddamn it, you make the stupidest fucking posts. What are they supposed to write about? I'd rather a band write songs about stuff they care about then run of the mill "esoteric" or gore lyrics.

I'm an atheist but I love bands with Christian messages.

[!WaR]

Christianity is based more on faith. The scriptures are there for you to read, and dictate directly what they want you to do. Genesis tells you that nature is yours for the taking and that we are the chosen species. It's basically written by humans to benefit ourselves. Death is an unknown, so they put heaven behind it. Nature is there to rape for our benefit. God loves you all, no matter how bad you are, but gets pissed off when you commit what is considered sin in the church. It just seems like they've taken a lot for granted to me, and manipulated people into living the lives they want you to live. This is probably why its cool to just kill off any group of people that stand in the way, sell indulgences into heaven (I know its stopped, but you wonder what that means about the integrity of the religion in the first place).

Varg and a bunch of other black metal guys burned churches in the 90s, and all that jazz. Satan is used in metaphor a lot in metal, and its usually to mock or question Christianity. And Christians killed off most of the Greco-Roman culture that metal appreciates.

I think I am too tired to accurately get into great depth, right now.

Wow...so that's what Christianity is? That's what I've been meditating on all these years? It's amusing to hear Christianity deduced by someone who's clearly never actually studied the Scriptures in depth. In Genesis it tells us we have "dominion" over all the earth. Since we are the most intelligent of all the creatures on earth and are able to solve many problems and create vast amounts of tools using our large minds, i can see why this was a good decision by Yahweh. Adam was formed (not created) to literally "till the ground" or what we call, farming. Adam's duty was to take care of the earth. We have a symbiotic relationship with the earth. We benefit off each other, if we take care of each other properly, which we haven't done so well. The Scriptures were written for the benefit of man but not in the sense you're speaking of (not to destroy and rape but to unify in a love that uplifts and strengthens). Christ repeated it over and over that His message is not of this world (it doesn't have any influence of mankind) and that people who are of this world would not accept Him or His message. God does have the capacity to love everyone, but God despises sin because He is Holy so should His children be (not sin according to men's tradition but by His Holy Word). Christ would do anything to have everyone of His children return to Him, even if that meant being murdered Himself, blameless, which He did. Satan is death and is given the reigns of death. He was the death angel that was sent over Egypt on Passover night written in Exodus. People have used the Bible and religion for many demonic, fucked up reasons over the history of man. Obvisouly they twisted the Scriptures to justify their actions, to people who were not learned in the Word, so these people trusted and believed these men wholly, these wolves in sheep's attire...clearly not true men of God. We must discern who is truly of God, seeking righteousness, and those who are of the death angel, who seek death, wroth, rape and chaos. Death of the flesh is natural and is not avoidable, death of the soul is what Jesus was preaching about and is what He came to ensure we have a way out of. ALL GLORY AND HONOR TO HIM! :emot-blin

[Nun Stampede!]

Wow...so that's what Christianity is? That's what I've been meditating on all these years? It's amusing to hear Christianity deduced by someone who's clearly never actually studied the Scriptures in depth. In Genesis it tells us we have "dominion" over all the earth. Since we are the most intelligent of all the creatures on earth and are able to solve many problems and create vast amounts of tools using our large minds, i can see why this was a good decision by Yahweh. Adam was formed (not created) to literally "till the ground" or what we call, farming. Adam's duty was to take care of the earth. We have a symbiotic relationship with the earth. We benefit off each other, if we take care of each other properly, which we haven't done so well. The Scriptures were written for the benefit of man but not in the sense you're speaking of (not to destroy and rape but to unify in a love that uplifts and strengthens). Christ repeated it over and over that His message is not of this world (it doesn't have any influence of mankind) and that people who are of this world would not accept Him or His message. God does have the capacity to love everyone, but God despises sin because He is Holy so should His children be (not sin according to men's tradition but by His Holy Word). Christ would do anything to have everyone of His children return to Him, even if that meant being murdered Himself, blameless, which He did. Satan is death and is given the reigns of death. He was the death angel that was sent over Egypt on Passover night written in Exodus. People have used the Bible and religion for many demonic, fucked up reasons over the history of man. Obvisouly they twisted the Scriptures to justify their actions, to people who were not learned in the Word, so these people trusted and believed these men wholly, these wolves in sheep's attire...clearly not true men of God. We must discern who is truly of God, seeking righteousness, and those who are of the death angel, who seek death, wroth, rape and chaos. Death of the flesh is natural and is not avoidable, death of the soul is what Jesus was preaching about and is what He came to ensure we have a way out of. ALL GLORY AND HONOR TO HIM! :emot-blin
Ive read a lot of the bible, and that paragraph was obviously biased by the things that bothered me in it. I was raised catholic, and all that bullshit, but take it for what it is, I dont want to start a huge religious war. I've heard it all before, but the bottom line is that scripture attempts to take reasoning out of the hands of the reader and that is why I don't support it. I have more of a problem with the actual religion than the scriptures, by the way. What I was pointing out were how poorly the church has followed through on the bible. I will accept that there are a lot of lessons to be learned throughout the bible, but most of them can be learned through other means. I don't think I am really a sinful person, but you do not need the bible to live a life free of sin. I hate how the bible has been used more than anything. You seem like a reasonable person, and I respect your beliefs.

BrianMED, thank you for setting new standards in the "dumbest post ever" category.

and the origins of metal come from a variety of different genres. Progressive rock, classical music, Rock, Jazz, Blues, whatever. That might be more subjective than the philosophy part. Church burning is kind of a clear indication of the severity and existence of anti-christian themes if you ask me. It may be an ignorant approach, but it is what it is. The Christians blame metal for being ungodly and sinful, and hessians blame Christianity for years of destruction, the demise of art, humanity, and a bunch of other shit. They aren't friends.

And Reverand Ian, thanks for playing, you still sound like an ignorant asshole who hasn't taken proper steps toward understanding and would rather poke fun at appearance and other petty and meaningless attributes.

[BrianMED]

Ive read a lot of the bible, and that paragraph was obviously biased by the things that bothered me in it. I was raised catholic, and all that bullshit, but take it for what it is, I dont want to start a huge religious war. I've heard it all before, but the bottom line is that scripture attempts to take reasoning out of the hands of the reader and that is why I don't support it. I have more of a problem with the actual religion than the scriptures, by the way. What I was pointing out were how poorly the church has followed through on the bible. I will accept that there are a lot of lessons to be learned throughout the bible, but most of them can be learned through other means. I don't think I am really a sinful person, but you do not need the bible to live a life free of sin. I hate how the bible has been used more than anything. You seem like a reasonable person, and I respect your beliefs.

BrianMED, thank you for setting new standards in the "dumbest post ever" category.

and the origins of metal come from a variety of different genres. Progressive rock, classical music, Rock, Jazz, Blues, whatever. That might be more subjective than the philosophy part. Church burning is kind of a clear indication of the severity and existence of anti-christian themes if you ask me. It may be an ignorant approach, but it is what it is. The Christians blame metal for being ungodly and sinful, and hessians blame Christianity for years of destruction, the demise of art, humanity, and a bunch of other shit. They aren't friends.

And Reverand Ian, thanks for playing, you still sound like an ignorant asshole who hasn't taken proper steps toward understanding and would rather poke fun at appearance and other petty and meaningless attributes.

lol well, I didn't really want to start a "debabte" I was just showing the band. plus i don't really care if it's christian or not, aslong and i like it, i'm happy. END

[Reverend Ian]

Ive read a lot of the bible, and that paragraph was obviously biased by the things that bothered me in it. I was raised catholic, and all that bullshit, but take it for what it is, I dont want to start a huge religious war. I've heard it all before, but the bottom line is that scripture attempts to take reasoning out of the hands of the reader and that is why I don't support it. I have more of a problem with the actual religion than the scriptures, by the way. What I was pointing out were how poorly the church has followed through on the bible. I will accept that there are a lot of lessons to be learned throughout the bible, but most of them can be learned through other means. I don't think I am really a sinful person, but you do not need the bible to live a life free of sin. I hate how the bible has been used more than anything. You seem like a reasonable person, and I respect your beliefs.

BrianMED, thank you for setting new standards in the "dumbest post ever" category.

and the origins of metal come from a variety of different genres. Progressive rock, classical music, Rock, Jazz, Blues, whatever. That might be more subjective than the philosophy part. Church burning is kind of a clear indication of the severity and existence of anti-christian themes if you ask me. It may be an ignorant approach, but it is what it is. The Christians blame metal for being ungodly and sinful, and hessians blame Christianity for years of destruction, the demise of art, humanity, and a bunch of other shit. They aren't friends.

And Reverand Ian, thanks for playing, you still sound like an ignorant asshole who hasn't taken proper steps toward understanding and would rather poke fun at appearance and other petty and meaningless attributes.
are you still in highschool?

[Nun Stampede!]

...yes. another irrelevant point you will use to try boost your social status, right?

[Shaft]

This thread is cool.

[Reverend Ian]

...yes. another irrelevant point you will use to try boost your social status, right?
how is any of this social?

[BrianMED]

You guys should post some bands up in here, I wanna fill up my ipod for school.

[teh Mazn]

religion has no place in music. true metal is for the freethinking men, not christians.

you are a faggot. a gigantic faggot. this is one of the dumbest statements i've ever heard.

and rev. ian, shut up.

[ten_second_infinity]

You guys should post some bands up in here, I wanna fill up my ipod for school.

if you want a really gay band with great and inspiring christian lyrics you should check out www.myspace.com/abhorrentdm.

[BrianMED]

if you want a really gay band with great and inspiring christian lyrics you should check out www.myspace.com/abhorrentdm.

No seriously, put some albums or bands you guys like. I want some new music. I'm trying to search for some right now.

[MustangMan311]

No seriously, put some albums or bands you guys like. I want some new music. I'm trying to search for some right now.

Impending Doom
As Blood Runs Black
Emmure

[god damnit jason]

tl;dr

[ibz_rg]

profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=31251843

[BrianMED]

thanks dudez

[preech]

you'd think this band would have Jesus as their number 1 friend but i guess he's hard to get a hold of.

[!WaR]

you'd think this band would have Jesus as their number 1 friend but i guess he's hard to get a hold of.

:emot-fail

[Nun Stampede!]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=109071

[prayer]

http://www.1-900-870-6235.com/PeaceMap/ReligiousWarSignGif.gif

[Savior]

Worst fucking thread ever.

[BrianMED]

Worst fucking thread ever.

Excluded

[dactylSAUR]

Excluded

wow stfu

[Sudden Intoxication]

It would be kind of cool if someone made some fire and brimstone christian metal band with badass imagery of people burning in hell and suffering for their sins for all eternity mwahahaha.

[BrianMED]

It would be kind of cool if someone made some fire and brimstone christian metal band with badass imagery of people burning in hell and suffering for their sins for all eternity mwahahaha.

rofl

[stark17]

Victory Records has officially extended its cold, soulless tentacles into the Deathcore genre. At least they aren't screwing anyone important.









Except for the great musicians in Between the Buried and Me, of course... ehhhh


Hey, you have to admit that The Silent Circus does smell a bit of deathcore! Still great though - was it released on Victory?

[cheachea]

Checkout these bands : Extol, Living Sacrifice, and Crimson Moonlight. They are actually decent bands.

[BZM]

extol is the shit.