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MustangMan311
08-10-2007, 01:49 PM
Oh shit, woops
Hahahahahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RP4KUR4rrA

Is that Dustie's solo bit around 1:51?

Brogen
08-10-2007, 01:51 PM
hahah

DeleonBAND
08-10-2007, 01:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RP4KUR4rrA
i think that is the link

DeleonBAND
08-10-2007, 01:56 PM
weird its the same,but the top one took me to john mayor or whatever

Brogen
08-10-2007, 01:57 PM
oh what the fuck? its for real?

MustangMan311
08-10-2007, 01:57 PM
oh what the fuck? its for real?

Uh, yeah. Haha.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 01:58 PM
fuck its so bad ass

DeleonBAND
08-10-2007, 01:59 PM
dude they take it into all bodies,that was sweet.

Joe512
08-10-2007, 02:01 PM
Decade of Statues? That was the douchebag that said he had Informal Gluttony, when it was really just Foam Born B.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 02:03 PM
Decade of Statues? That was the douchebag that said he had Informal Gluttony, when it was really just Foam Born B.

haha who fucking cares its a new bad ass song. turns out i was the right one all along..it wasnt informal gluttony that was being played.

Joe512
08-10-2007, 02:06 PM
haha who fucking cares its a new bad ass song. turns out i was the right one all along..it wasnt informal gluttony that was being played.Yeah I was just stoked because I thought I was going to get a taste of a new song, and I already heard this one live the other night.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 02:07 PM
Yeah I was just stoked because I thought I was going to get a taste of a new song, and I heard this one live the other night.

oh oh sorry. i didnt know you had seen them. its still a bad ass song though. its a really good teaser.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 02:07 PM
COMPLETELY AMAZING< JUST HOW I REMEMBERED IT FROM THE LIVE SHOW

Brogen
08-10-2007, 02:07 PM
Oh shit, woops
Hahahahahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RP4KUR4rrA

Is that Dustie's solo bit around 1:51?

yes it is. i fucked up and thought it was in sun of nothing cuz i couldnt rememberrr. but yeah. thats it.

MustangMan311
08-10-2007, 02:08 PM
I don't think I want to hear any more before I get the album.
Holy shit. I'm so fucking pumped now.

tremulant25
08-10-2007, 02:10 PM
creamed myself over and over

Joe512
08-10-2007, 02:11 PM
I loved how they used Paul's part from the video in that transition (@4:30), it's my favorite part of the song.

holyfuck
08-10-2007, 02:14 PM
I thought colours would be the greatest release this year but definately not one of the most brutal imo. This is fucking heavy ish. It is very silent circus I love that.

MustangMan311
08-10-2007, 02:15 PM
I loved how they used Paul's part from the video in that transition (@4:30), it's my favorite part of the song.

Yeah, I agree. I love what was on the end of that that we didn't see in the video.

tremulant25
08-10-2007, 02:16 PM
You didn't expect BTBAM to release a pummeling assault of straight-forward "death metal", did you? You should know BTBAM better than that, they're not going to ever release a Suffocation album.

holyfuck
08-10-2007, 02:18 PM
I am objectively saying that from the studio vids I figured thise would not be very brutal but still amazing. I was pleasantly surprised that this is brutal.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 02:19 PM
after listening several times...that song is mega bad ass.

tremulant25
08-10-2007, 02:19 PM
Oh, what? Nevermind. I thought you meant from the studio vids it was going to be brutal but this isn't. It really isn't brutal, it's pretty much a continuation of what they've always done, technical experimental metal.

holyfuck
08-10-2007, 02:22 PM
aside from being my fav bands, I always credited them (among countless other shit) for having the most legendary breakdowns you will hear, like lost perfection, camilla rhodes, shevanel cut a flip, all bodies, autodidact, and this continues in that classic style. It is lol they are known for being on the most technically virtuosic bands out now, but can write the best crushing throWDoWNSSS!1

DeleonBAND
08-10-2007, 02:23 PM
is there more then one colors vid?

Brogen
08-10-2007, 02:23 PM
aside from being my fav bands, I always credited them (among countless other shit) for having the most legendary breakdowns you will hear, like lost perfection, camilla rhodes, shevanel cut a flip, all bodies, autodidact, and this continues in that classic style. It is lol they are known for being on the most technically virtuosic bands out now, but can write the best crushing throWDoWNSSS!1

i agree. their breakdowns are the shit.

holyfuck
08-10-2007, 02:28 PM
brutality as a term is so dumb although I use it... HA HA HA!... hypocrisy.

Anyway, like are there terms that apply to brutality??? I find the theatricality of bm takes away from its "brutality"... I hold converge as the most brutal band out there, mainly because of intensity, I recall someone saying intensity > brutality. I dunno, shit like cryptopsy and converge = brutal to me.

On this dumb topic I gave genesis t0, I say that shit like... PARTS of cammila rhodes is very brutal, but btbam themselves I would not consider some grim bruTTALL band... prolly why they are my fav.

BZM
08-10-2007, 02:49 PM
brutality as a term is so dumb although I use it... HA HA HA!... hypocrisy.

Anyway, like are there terms that apply to brutality??? I find the theatricality of bm takes away from its "brutality"... I hold converge as the most brutal band out there, mainly because of intensity, I recall someone saying intensity > brutality. I dunno, shit like cryptopsy and converge = brutal to me.

On this dumb topic I gave genesis t0, I say that shit like... PARTS of cammila rhodes is very brutal, but btbam themselves I would not consider some grim bruTTALL band... prolly why they are my fav.

defeated sanity > any band at brutality

As for this song? It's bad-ass. I'm not gonna lie. ...until 04:30, when it quickly turns into a faggot excersise in self-indulgence. Way to completely butcher the flow of a song, btbam... I thought you would have learned by now. And that dream theater chromatic shit? Later on? Ew. Just fucking ew.

And just when I was starting to get excited, too.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 02:53 PM
if anyone wants an .m4a of it for their ipod pm me.

mircfool
08-10-2007, 02:55 PM
im a dick.

fixed

Adolf Warstarter
08-10-2007, 03:00 PM
You guys are ruining your enjoyment of the finished product! thats one track you will not exactly pay as much attention to come leak time as you will be guessing the parts you already now know.The studio vid is a teaser..this is not a teaser but a whole song! I suggest you guys watch it once then delete and forget about it. think about it.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 03:05 PM
You guys are ruining your enjoyment of the finished product! thats one track you will not exactly pay as much attention to come leak time as you will be guessing the parts you already now know.The studio vid is a teaser..this is not a teaser but a whole song! I suggest you guys watch it once then delete and forget about it. think about it.

wrong. i cant wait to hear the studio version of it. im in love with this song already. im not skipping this on the cd.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 03:13 PM
defeated sanity > any band at brutality

As for this song? It's bad-ass. I'm not gonna lie. ...until 04:30, when it quickly turns into a faggot excersise in self-indulgence. Way to completely butcher the flow of a song, btbam... I thought you would have learned by now. And that dream theater chromatic shit? Later on? Ew. Just fucking ew.

And just when I was starting to get excited, too.

BZM is the biggest retard of all time for this, this song is perfect in all aspects,
if you wanna listen to some gay ass hardcore shit listen to TERROR and leave BTBAM alone

Brogen
08-10-2007, 03:15 PM
BZM is the biggest retard of all time for this, this song is perfect in all aspects,
if you wanna listen to some gay ass hardcore shit listen to TERROR and leave BTBAM alone

i agree about the song being perfect. i fucking love the so called "self indulgent" part or whatever he called it. this song has everything. jazz part, crazy ass riffage, heaviness, a breakdown, awesome clean singing, awesome chorus..what more can you want?

underrealm
08-10-2007, 03:17 PM
Damn, you motherfuckers can be WAY too opinionated sometimes. ;)

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:17 PM
fixed

Cry more, I actually have an opinion. If and when I hear a song on Colors that makes my jaw drop, I'll openly admit to loving it. But if BTBAM keeps it up with these bullshit transitions out of nowhere that they think their fans "expect and want" (which, sadly, some of them do), I'm going to keep hating.

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:19 PM
BZM is the biggest retard of all time for this, this song is perfect in all aspects,
if you wanna listen to some gay ass hardcore shit listen to TERROR and leave BTBAM alone

Oh, and fuck you, dumb cunt; just because it has BTBAM stamped on it doesn't mean I'm automatically obliged to go down on it and gurgle the ejaculate. As I already said, I was VERY into the song up until the structuritis kicked in. I tend to like music that's MORE than the sum of its parts, not just "parts".

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 03:20 PM
i agree about the song being perfect. i fucking love the so called "self indulgent" part or whatever he called it. this song has everything. jazz part, crazy ass riffage, heaviness, a breakdown, awesome clean singing, awesome chorus..what more can you want?

I know, i cant stand kids that expect BTBAM to go all hadcore/death metal, thats not what they are about at all, and if they don't realize that by now then they are going to be very dissapointed with "colors"

cloudscollide
08-10-2007, 03:22 PM
This song was awesome. Can't wait to hear the studio version of it.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 03:23 PM
Oh, and fuck you, dumb cunt; just because it has BTBAM stamped on it doesn't mean I'm automatically obliged to go down on it and gurgle the ejaculate. As I already said, I was VERY into the song up until the structuritis kicked in. I tend to like music that's MORE than the sum of its parts, not just "parts".

You make absolutely no sense at all, if you don't like that shit, then why even listen to btbam, thats who they are, and always have been, even on the self titled

Adolf Warstarter
08-10-2007, 03:23 PM
I didnt say you would skip it. only anticipate the parts you now know. thus, Making your first listen not as enjoyable. Same thing happened with the live Alaska vid b4 the album leaked. People must have watched that shit loads of times, that when it eventually came round to the studio release, it didnt live up to their expectations. Studio vid was enough for me......Full album listen FTW!

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:27 PM
I know, i cant stand kids that expect BTBAM to go all hadcore/death metal, thats not what they are about at all, and if they don't realize that by now then they are going to be very dissapointed with "colors"

No, I EXPECT them to transition from heavy to soft in a way that sounds like they put even a LITTLE bit of effort into it. Listen to the all-time classics like Mordecai and Ad A Dglgmut. On BOTH of those songs, laborious effort was put in to make the transition from heavy to haunting and/or touching + beautiful (respectively) clean sections as smooth and as magical as possible, the songwriting expertise showed in those two songs was what originally made me fall in fucking love with this band... and let's not forget Naked By The Computer and More Of Myself To Kill... back when BTBAM actually knew how to inject emotion into a song instead of... this. Now it just seems like they're trying to cram as many unrelated parts together as they can and wrap it in duct tape and pass it off as songwriting.

Jotun
08-10-2007, 03:27 PM
The conclusion, after watching this video...the members of BTBAM know a lot about music.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 03:28 PM
I didnt say you would skip it. only anticipate the parts you now know. thus, Making your first listen not as enjoyable. Same thing happened with the live Alaska vid b4 the album leaked. People must have watched that shit loads of times, that when it eventually came round to the studio release, it didnt live up to their expectations. Studio vid was enough for me......Full album listen FTW!

this song is better than alaska by like 10000x imo. but i get what you mean. but this is all i have right now so im going to listen to it like mad haha. ill enjoy it on the album. this happened with excreations by the fall of troy too...only the live version came out like a year before.

DillingerEscapePlan
08-10-2007, 03:33 PM
Snare sounds pretty sick at 3:10

cloudscollide
08-10-2007, 03:33 PM
No, I EXPECT them to transition from heavy to soft in a way that sounds like they put even a LITTLE bit of effort into it. Listen to the all-time classics like Mordecai and Ad A Dglgmut. On BOTH of those songs, laborious effort was put in to make the transition from heavy to haunting and/or touching + beautiful (respectively) clean sections as smooth and as magical as possible, the songwriting expertise showed in those two songs was what originally made me fall in fucking love with this band... and let's not forget Naked By The Computer and More Of Myself To Kill... back when BTBAM actually knew how to inject emotion into a song instead of... this. Now it just seems like they're trying to cram as many unrelated parts together as they can and wrap it in duct tape and pass it off as songwriting.

I know COMPLETELY what you are talking about. I rip a lot of bands for this when I review cds. But, I'm not reviewing Colors, and I don't think this particular song was ruined. I think it was awesome and i'm sure it'll grow more on me when I hear the actual thing several times.

DeleonBAND
08-10-2007, 03:33 PM
im pretty sure they just wrote a few songs they wanted to hear,and hope that maybe some of us will like it.im pretty sure they write the songs the way they think they should be to sound good.i bet paul doesnt give afuck what you think of his ideas,because they are his ideas,and he is getting paid for it.quit bitching,the cd owns.and you know it willbe on your play list for at least a month.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 03:36 PM
No, I EXPECT them to transition from heavy to soft in a way that sounds like they put even a LITTLE bit of effort into it. Listen to the all-time classics like Mordecai and Ad A Dglgmut. On BOTH of those songs, laborious effort was put in to make the transition from heavy to haunting and/or touching + beautiful (respectively) clean sections as smooth and as magical as possible, the songwriting expertise showed in those two songs was what originally made me fall in fucking love with this band... and let's not forget Naked By The Computer and More Of Myself To Kill... back when BTBAM actually knew how to inject emotion into a song instead of... this. Now it just seems like they're trying to cram as many unrelated parts together as they can and wrap it in duct tape and pass it off as songwriting.

listen, the silent circus, and self titled were very very good, but alaska is one of the most beautifully destuctive albums of all time, its a masterpiece, selkies, all bodies, backwards marathon, the primer, autodidact, and of course alaska, all incredibly diverse, and equally amazing songs, don't get me wong the silent circus and the self titled are two of my favorite albums ever, but alaska definetly is my all time favorite and the writing on that album proves that btbam know how to do what they do very well, and for you to say that its not emotional, or that they are "cramming unrelated parts together" is just ridiculous....

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:37 PM
im pretty sure they just wrote a few songs they wanted to hear,and hope that maybe some of us will like it.im pretty sure they write the songs the way they think they should be to sound good.i bet paul doesnt give afuck what you think of his ideas,because they are his ideas,and he is getting paid for it.quit bitching,the cd owns.and you know it willbe on your play list for at least a month.

Yes, you're right, they write the songs the way they think they should be and I KNOW paul doesn't care about what any of the old fans think, that's why he's writing guitar exercises instead of solos and warmups instead of riffs and thinking he's Opeth with the million parts and 10 minute long songs and DEP with the time sig changes when he doesn't possess the ability to make any of it cohesive.

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:38 PM
listen, the silent circus, and self titled were very very good, but alaska is one of the most beautifully destuctive albums of all time, its a masterpiece, selkies, all bodies, backwards marathon, the primer, autodidact, and of course alaska, all incredibly diverse, and equally amazing songs, don't get me wong the silent circus and the self titled are two of my favorite albums ever, but alaska definetly is my all time favorite and the writing on that album proves that btbam know how to do what they do very well, and for you to say that its not emotional, or that they are "cramming unrelated parts together" is just ridiculous....

Alaska is your all time favorite. I shouldn't have to say more than this.

Jotun
08-10-2007, 03:39 PM
listen, the silent circus, and self titled were very very good, but alaska is one of the most beautifully destuctive albums of all time, its a masterpiece, selkies, all bodies, backwards marathon, the primer, autodidact, and of course alaska, all incredibly diverse, and equally amazing songs, don't get me wong the silent circus and the self titled are two of my favorite albums ever, but alaska definetly is my all time favorite and the writing on that album proves that btbam know how to do what they do very well, and for you to say that its not emotional, or that they are "cramming unrelated parts together" is just ridiculous....


lmao

*hears sweep

*faps**

Adolf Warstarter
08-10-2007, 03:39 PM
this song is perfect in all aspects

Think about what you've said there. Now thats a bold statement.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 03:41 PM
listen, the silent circus, and self titled were very very good, but alaska is one of the most beautifully destuctive albums of all time, its a masterpiece, selkies, all bodies, backwards marathon, the primer, autodidact, and of course alaska, all incredibly diverse, and equally amazing songs, don't get me wong the silent circus and the self titled are two of my favorite albums ever, but alaska definetly is my all time favorite and the writing on that album proves that btbam know how to do what they do very well, and for you to say that its not emotional, or that they are "cramming unrelated parts together" is just ridiculous....

okay i really disagree with you. the self titled and silent circus are farr better than alaska. alaska has some highs for sure, but it will never top either of the first two albums..ever. so i have to say some of the things youre saying is just ridiculous. if alaska had come from a different band, it would be a lot better because its technicality at its best - but theres no emotion in technicality. is there any emotion going on at the beginning of alaska? absolutely none. its just here..i can sweep like a broom. its a bit of a show off record, but after two records full of stuff that was already harder to play than what anyone else was putting out and were also filled with some of the most genuine songwriting (especially the s/t) i have ever heard - its hard to like alaska as much.

however, i think colors is going to be their best so far, at least from the two songs ive heard - because what i heard live was a mix of all their best assets. its their most technical stuff yet, but also the emotions are stronger than ever - mainly in sun of nothing. now i dont know if itll be a different feel on the album..we'll have to wait and see.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 03:41 PM
Alaska is your all time favorite. I shouldn't have to say more than this.

I'm done with your insane opinions, you obviously know nothing about music, and thats fine, i'm cool wit it peace out BZM

MustangMan311
08-10-2007, 03:42 PM
this song is better than alaska by like 10000x imo. but i get what you mean. but this is all i have right now so im going to listen to it like mad haha. ill enjoy it on the album. this happened with excreations by the fall of troy too...only the live version came out like a year before.

Live version of Ex-Creations in London > Manipulator overall

No, I EXPECT them to transition from heavy to soft in a way that sounds like they put even a LITTLE bit of effort into it. Listen to the all-time classics like Mordecai and Ad A Dglgmut. On BOTH of those songs, laborious effort was put in to make the transition from heavy to haunting and/or touching + beautiful (respectively) clean sections as smooth and as magical as possible, the songwriting expertise showed in those two songs was what originally made me fall in fucking love with this band... and let's not forget Naked By The Computer and More Of Myself To Kill... back when BTBAM actually knew how to inject emotion into a song instead of... this. Now it just seems like they're trying to cram as many unrelated parts together as they can and wrap it in duct tape and pass it off as songwriting.

I got that feeling at the end of the song, definitely.
I liked every bit of the song, every part they did, but there was no transition, and it most definitely needs a smoother quality to it. I still think the song is great, but you've got a point. That's my only beef with the song.

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:43 PM
I'm done with your insane opinions, you obviously know nothing about music, and thats fine, i'm cool wit it peace out BZM

HAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Have you even heard of Cynic? Copulate with a wood chipper and fondle the stump of whatever's left until you bleed out any genetic material to remove the possibility of you reproducing more degenerate spawn who claim to possess the world's wealth of music knowledge after hearing 4 metal albums and being an Atreyu convert.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 03:44 PM
okay i really disagree with you. the self titled and silent circus are farr better than alaska. alaska has some highs for sure, but it will never top either of the first two albums..ever. so i have to say some of the things youre saying is just ridiculous. if alaska had come from a different band, it would be a lot better because its technicality at its best - but theres no emotion in technicality. is there any emotion going on at the beginning of alaska? absolutely none. its just here..i can sweep like a broom. its a bit of a show off record, but after two records full of stuff that was already harder to play than what anyone else was putting out and were also filled with some of the most genuine songwriting (especially the s/t) i have ever heard - its hard to like alaska as much.

however, i think colors is going to be their best so far, at least from the two songs ive heard - because what i heard live was a mix of all their best assets. its their most technical stuff yet, but also the emotions are stronger than ever - mainly in sun of nothing. now i dont know if itll be a different feel on the album..we'll have to wait and see.

I can agree with you, but there is a lot of emotion in selkies, and in backwards marathon, and plus when you write music just te way your playing is showing emotion, but i do agree that the s/t and the silent circus have more emotion, but i doo love a good show off (especially when he can pull it off as well as paul and dustie)

tremulant25
08-10-2007, 03:46 PM
die in a fire

xShrEDgex
08-10-2007, 03:46 PM
actually BZM knows more about music than most people on here.

though i am going to have to disagree with him on this one. I am a huge theory buff also, but this song is fucking retarded-good. Then again i love really spastic and unpredictable music

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:46 PM
Showing off isn't music, and if you love a good show off, then you have complete shit for taste. Period. If I wanted to listen to showing off and repetitive sweeping, I'd listen to Jason Becker, who can do it better than Paul or Dusty combined.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 03:47 PM
I can agree with you, but there is a lot of emotion in selkies, and in backwards marathon, and plus when you write music just te way your playing is showing emotion, but i do agree that the s/t and the silent circus have more emotion, but i doo love a good show off (especially when he can pull it off as well as paul and dustie)

the only emotion i heard in alaska was paul confessing his love for brooms

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:48 PM
I like music that takes unpredictable turns... but those bands don't kid themselves about what they are or how they roll, bands like Dillinger, Martyr (feeding the abcess, warp zone <333), Theory In Practice... they throw down some of the weirdest shit you'll ever hear, but because that's their sole objective and they've spent so many countless years honing their craft instead of trying to completely shift genres, they've gotten really good at it.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 03:48 PM
HAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Have you even heard of Cynic? Copulate with a wood chipper and fondle the stump of whatever's left until you bleed out any genetic material to remove the possibility of you reproducing more degenerate spawn who claim to possess the world's wealth of music knowledge after hearing 4 metal albums and being an Atreyu convert.

Atreyu? i've never liked them, i honesdtly dont even like that much metal, just the experimental shit, HORSE, the number 12, btbam, DEP, and more... other than that i like shit like The sound of animals fighting, the mars volta, the blood brothers, Pink Floyd, Radiohead... never atreyu hahaaha don't be stupid

Ivan is terrible 75
08-10-2007, 03:51 PM
how about the fact that this argument is pointless...like many of the others i've witnessed...stop focusing energy on being lame, and let's continue our combined search for videos or something else to do with colors...i just want to hear this damn thing, not read all this stupid bullshit.

tremulant25
08-10-2007, 03:52 PM
the blood brothers? #12? ewww.

Jotun
08-10-2007, 03:52 PM
Atreyu? i've never liked them, i honesdtly dont even like that much metal, just the experimental shit, HORSE, the number 12, btbam, DEP, and more... other than that i like shit like The sound of animals fighting, the mars volta, the blood brothers, Pink Floyd, Radiohead... never atreyu hahaaha don't be stupid

lol

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:54 PM
Atreyu? i've never liked them, i honesdtly dont even like that much metal, just the experimental shit, HORSE, the number 12, btbam, DEP, and more... other than that i like shit like The sound of animals fighting, the mars volta, the blood brothers, Pink Floyd, Radiohead... never atreyu hahaaha don't be stupid

This doesn't change the fact that your spectrum of musical appreciation is confined to a PAINFULLY small space, what you listen to is like the head of a pin compared to the grapefruit of musical cornucopia that the majority of posters here enjoy. Every single one of those bands save for pink floyd could almost belong on the same label and it just illustrates that you've been listening to this kind of shit for maybe a couple months, tops. Get the fuck out of here, new jack.

fatalerror
08-10-2007, 03:55 PM
I thought that sweep part was really useless, it didn't really serve as much of a transition, although the novelty of it makes the song memorable. Everything up until that part was really making me want to rip shit apart and it kind of ruined that flow. And for the 500th fucking time, Alaska was good, but not as great as anything that preceded it.

Song is pretty brutalica.

BZM
08-10-2007, 03:58 PM
p.s. #12 sucks. Hard.

MustangMan311
08-10-2007, 03:58 PM
the blood brothers? #12? ewww.

Aww, come on with the Number 12 love. They need some serious appreesh.

Syrushred
08-10-2007, 04:00 PM
All arguing aside, this song kicks ass.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 04:00 PM
This doesn't change the fact that your spectrum of musical appreciation is confined to a PAINFULLY small space, what you listen to is like the head of a pin compared to the grapefruit of musical cornucopia that the majority of posters here enjoy. Every single one of those bands save for pink floyd could almost belong on the same label and it just illustrates that you've been listening to this kind of shit for maybe a couple months, tops. Get the fuck out of here, new jack.

i'm not even going to begin to list all the bands i listen to, but three months? come on now, thats just a stupid thing to say. all you do is talk shit, but honestly what do you listen to... i'm interested

tremulant25
08-10-2007, 04:00 PM
Aww, come on with the Number 12 love. They need some serious appreesh.

No, they don't. Couldn't get much gayer than a bunch of scene faggots screaming like the blood brothers, using random song titles, minimalistic art with no relevancy, and shit guitar licks.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 04:01 PM
I thought that sweep part was really useless, it didn't really serve as much of a transition, although the novelty of it makes the song memorable. Everything up until that part was really making me want to rip shit apart and it kind of ruined that flow. And for the 500th fucking time, Alaska was good, but not as great as anything that preceded it.

Song is pretty brutalica.

i think that sweep part is useless but i still love it. its a great riff- not the best spot for it, but its a good riff. the song as a whole is fucking awesome though.

and yes, alaska was a good album - but after the s/t and silent circus its just blah

BZM
08-10-2007, 04:01 PM
Aww, come on with the Number 12 love. They need some serious appreesh.

You're still young, I was the same way when I was your age... I'm confident you'll grow out of them.

Joe512
08-10-2007, 04:02 PM
I did like the part at 4:30, but I agree that the transition could have gone much smoother than they had it. That said, I pretty like everything about this song.

Jotun
08-10-2007, 04:07 PM
i'm not even going to begin to list all the bands i listen to, but three months? come on now, thats just a stupid thing to say. all you do is talk shit, but honestly what do you listen to... i'm interested

just make a last.fm, n00b...saves lot of time and energy in situations like yours.

http://www.last.fm/user/10011001/

skin_blanketed
08-10-2007, 04:10 PM
I did like the part at 4:30, but I agree that the transition could have gone much smoother than they had it. That said, I pretty like everything about this song.
My sentiments exactly.

Sean, way to over-analyze a song. I realize you know a shit-ton about theory but why let that get in the way of you appreciating music. It's just so absurd to take yourself and what you listen to so seriously.

BZM
08-10-2007, 04:12 PM
i'm not even going to begin to list all the bands i listen to, but three months? come on now, thats just a stupid thing to say. all you do is talk shit, but honestly what do you listen to... i'm interested

Ion Dissonance, Cryptopsy, Defeated Sanity, Helios, The Appleseed Cast, Cephalic Carnage, Despised Icon, Pig Destroyer, Spawn of Possession, Xasthur, Envy, World's End Girlfriend, Akira Yamaoka, SikTh, Gorguts, Suffocation, Mogwai, The Dillinger Escape Plan, The Beatles, Opeth, Ulver, Circa Survive, The End, The Hope Conspiracy, Martyr, Aereogramme, Converge... I could go on.

You cannot fuck with any band in this list. If you do, you are wrong, period.

Jotun
08-10-2007, 04:12 PM
It's just so absurd to take yourself and what you listen to so seriously.

Why? Music is something different to everyone, haha. He's got his reasons for being bummed about the song, as do I, just like some of you dudes have reasons for loving it. They're just not very good to me, lol.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 04:14 PM
Why? Music is something different to everyone, haha. He's got his reasons for being bummed about the song, as do I, just like some of you dudes have reasons for loving it. They're just not very good to me, lol.

qft only i like it.

every song by btbam is loved and hated by certain people, and we should stop arguing cause this is getting kind of ridiculous.

ah fuck it..i put $10 on bzm.

BZM
08-10-2007, 04:14 PM
My sentiments exactly.

Sean, way to over-analyze a song. I realize you know a shit-ton about theory but why let that get in the way of you appreciating music. It's just so absurd to take yourself and what you listen to so seriously.

Theory honestly has nothing to do with it. With other bands, even if I -DO- overanalyze usually all it leads to is exceedingly more enjoyment, as far as I'm concerned bands like Mogwai and Converge and any other band I just listed don't have flaws, and picking their music apart just reveals more hidden treasures instead of big ugly surgical scars from cut + paste transitions and glaring flaws.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 04:17 PM
Ion Dissonance, Cryptopsy, Defeated Sanity, Helios, The Appleseed Cast, Cephalic Carnage, Despised Icon, Pig Destroyer, Spawn of Possession, Xasthur, Envy, World's End Girlfriend, Akira Yamaoka, SikTh, Gorguts, Suffocation, Mogwai, The Dillinger Escape Plan, The Beatles, Opeth, Ulver, Circa Survive, The End, The Hope Conspiracy, Martyr, Aereogramme, Converge... I could go on.

You cannot fuck with any band in this list. If you do, you are wrong, period.

I wouldn't try too fuck wit them, every band has their fine points, i like alot of those bands, and i dislike some of them, but whatever im not about to bash any of them, its not really ever cool to bash on a band or someones muical taste unless its TERROR, i really hate TERROR,

tremulant25
08-10-2007, 04:18 PM
I wouldn't try too fuck wit them, every band has their fine points, i like alot of those bands, and i dislike some of them, but whatever im not about to bash any of them, its not really ever cool to bash on a band or someones muical taste unless its TERROR, i really hate TERROR,

you're a lier, I doubt you know 40% of the bands of his list.

BZM
08-10-2007, 04:20 PM
I'm done with your insane opinions, you obviously know nothing about music

You were saying, faggot?

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 04:22 PM
you're a lier, I doubt you know 40% of the bands of his list.

and your grounds for thinking that are?????

tremulant25
08-10-2007, 04:23 PM
and your grounds for thinking that are?????

I know less than a handful of people who know World's End Girlfriend are.

Brogen
08-10-2007, 04:24 PM
converge ftw

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 04:25 PM
[QUOTE=BZM;2472012]You were saying, faggot?[/QUOTE

You an over testosteroned retard, and your hatred for humankind probably comes from something in your childhood, maybe you were molested, is that it, were you molested??? And you liked it???? oh my god, im terribly sorry for what happened to you, it'll all get better one day...

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 04:26 PM
I know less than a handful of people who know World's End Girlfriend are.

i said i like alot, and dislike some, i never said i knew who all of them were though...

BZM
08-10-2007, 04:29 PM
What do any of those childish allegations have to do with my taste in music? Way to dodge a bullet by bending over and sucking more cock. If you're going to try and cook up insults, at least make them count instead of trying to bedazzle me with how many question marks you can cram into a single worthless post. For you I have a much more believable explanation: someone stole your Y chromosome.

yeah
08-10-2007, 04:30 PM
defeated sanity > any band at brutality

As for this song? It's bad-ass. I'm not gonna lie. ...until 04:30, when it quickly turns into a faggot excersise in self-indulgence. Way to completely butcher the flow of a song, btbam... I thought you would have learned by now. And that dream theater chromatic shit? Later on? Ew. Just fucking ew.

And just when I was starting to get excited, too.



LOL

post more often, please...

xShrEDgex
08-10-2007, 04:31 PM
change of subject here but has anyone seen this??


http://www.torrentreactor.net/search.php?search=&words=between+the+buried+and+me+colors&cid=0



there's 3 things.. but the files are HUGEEE

im weary to try and download them

edit: nevermind i didnt even see how old the added dates were.

flame me until death now please

Jotun
08-10-2007, 04:33 PM
change of subject here but has anyone seen this??


http://www.torrentreactor.net/search.php?search=&words=between+the+buried+and+me+colors&cid=0



there's 3 things.. but the files are HUGEEE

im weary to try and download them

Probably just high bitrate (like, 320kbps+)...not big enough to be FLAC. You'll never know if you don't DL, right?

MustangMan311
08-10-2007, 04:33 PM
change of subject here but has anyone seen this??


http://www.torrentreactor.net/search.php?search=&words=between+the+buried+and+me+colors&cid=0



there's 3 things.. but the files are HUGEEE

im weary to try and download them

edit: nevermind i didnt even see how old the added dates were.

flame me until death now please

Look at the dates they were added, though. Makes no sense.
Even still, look at how many seeders there are, though...

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 04:35 PM
You were saying, faggot?

and what did this have to do with your musical taste, i said i agree with your taste in music and then you turned around and insulted me, that would make you a hypocrite... you really need to learn how to argue better and if your gonna try and make a point stick with one point so as not to confuse yourself... ok?

Jotun
08-10-2007, 04:35 PM
,though...

:P

Brogen
08-10-2007, 04:35 PM
Look at the dates they were added, though. Makes no sense.
Even still, look at how many seeders there are, though...

it links you to a site you have to pay for so yeah. even if they are real - which is fucking impossible unless theyre like superflac rips or some crazy - we cant get them. but im pretty damn sure they arent real.

MustangMan311
08-10-2007, 04:36 PM
,though...

:P

haha, you've got a point, though...

it links you to a site you have to pay for so yeah. even if they are real - which is fucking impossible unless theyre like superflac rips or some crazy - we cant get them. but im pretty damn sure they arent real.

oh, yeah, fuck that then.

BZM
08-10-2007, 04:37 PM
and what did this have to do with your musical taste, i said i agree with your taste in music and then you turned around and insulted me, that would make you a hypocrite... you really need to learn how to argue better and if your gonna try and make a point stick with one point so as not to confuse yourself... ok?

No, YOU'RE the hypocrite, you fucking idiot. The FIRST thing you said was that I didn't know anything about music "obviously". THEN you agreed with my taste in music. What does that make you again?

hyp·o·crite /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/

2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

id·i·ot /ˈɪdiət/
–noun

2. Psychology. a person of the lowest order in a former classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 04:40 PM
No, YOU'RE the hypocrite, you fucking idiot. The FIRST thing you said was that I didn't know anything about music "obviously". THEN you agreed with my taste in music. What does that make you again?

hyp·o·crite /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/

2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

id·i·ot /ˈɪdiət/
–noun

2. Psychology. a person of the lowest order in a former classification of mental retardation, having a mental age of less than three years old and an intelligence quotient under 25.

your dumb, and obviously have no life

BZM
08-10-2007, 04:42 PM
"your" dumb? Jesus fucking CHRIST. I'm honestly speechless.

You're a girl, aren't you?

Six One Cynic
08-10-2007, 04:44 PM
Sounds pretty good but if it wasn't an opener and it wasn't a suite I might be upset.

Freakishly Pink7
08-10-2007, 04:52 PM
change of subject here but has anyone seen this??


http://www.torrentreactor.net/search.php?search=&words=between+the+buried+and+me+colors&cid=0



there's 3 things.. but the files are HUGEEE

im weary to try and download them

edit: nevermind i didnt even see how old the added dates were.

flame me until death now please


Very Very Fake

holyfuck
08-10-2007, 04:53 PM
silent circus > any album (for me) hahahahaha. I am always wondering if silent circus or jane doe is my favourite album evARRRR!1

I think there is "emotion" in alaska... some say its indulgent at the end of selkies, I think it is cheerful. I think the lyrical conceptual side of alaska is not as INTERPERSONAL, the whole concept is hiding the ills of society in pop culture socialized metaphors. It is supposed to feel veiled or unfeeling imo, to support the message. Plus, alaska feels faith no more meets king crimson meets cryptopsy imo.

But silent circus is the best evar. That is why I am happy that colors (this song) shares some likeness with it.

And mongrel rules, nuclear sad nuclear was meh for me, but mongrel is very impressive. the drums are >

BZM
08-10-2007, 04:57 PM
But really, I -REALLY- like the first half of Decade Of Statues... it really hooked me, but then just like most new btbam, they start meandering and lose me. The rock singing part was fucking amazing. Then they start filler riffing, then that pointless clean part, then the HORRIBLE chromatic and sweeping shit... so disappointing :(

Jotun
08-10-2007, 04:59 PM
some say its indulgent at the end of selkies, I think it is cheerful.

It's the key/mode that is cheerful...it's the sweeping that is indulgent. But whatever, the argument has been made x amount of times and always ends up the same.

xShrEDgex
08-10-2007, 05:03 PM
Very Very Fake

yeah, we established that 45 minutes ago

BZM
08-10-2007, 05:08 PM
btbam's problem is that they're not struggling to survive like they used to be, and they have no inspiration anymore to write dark music. no more serious topics. it's all prog indulgence now. tommy himself stated this in an interview that, since their recent successes, he's had problems finding things to be angry about and express it through music.

holyfuck
08-10-2007, 05:13 PM
I think it would be naiive to say that it is agressive music's perogative to be angry... ultimately I think any emotion could be transferred through the writing, the agressive part only amplifies the weight of the emotion rather than angryfying it.

BZM
08-10-2007, 05:18 PM
I never said it was aggressive music's prerogative, I simply said that it's BTBAM's excuse for ceasing to write dark, brooding music. If I wanted to hear happy heavy music, I'd listen to Jesu.

holyfuck
08-10-2007, 05:20 PM
jesu rule hahahaha. I still sese sincerity in Alaska, if not emotional vulnerable music

mircfool
08-10-2007, 05:20 PM
when bzm said he liked 311 i stopped taking anything he said seriously. i suggest you all do the same.

BZM
08-10-2007, 05:39 PM
when bzm said he liked 311 i stopped taking anything he said seriously. i suggest you all do the same.

You still took me seriously enough to call me a "dick" for having an opinion contrary to yours, rofl. Shouldn't you be busy fucking that girlfriend of yours that looks like she should be your sister?

Deathface
08-10-2007, 05:48 PM
when bzm said he liked 311 i stopped taking anything he said seriously. i suggest you all do the same.

What's wrong with 311? I've always liked those guys. One of my favorite bands to listen too when I just feel like relaxing. Dudes are talented as fuck too.

BZM
08-10-2007, 05:49 PM
No shit, P-Nut slaps the fuck out of most rock bassists (in more than one sense of the word).

Manwë
08-10-2007, 05:51 PM
No shit, P-Nut slaps the fuck out of most rock bassists (in more than one sense of the word).

P-Nut's the drummer.

Edit. Nevermind.

BZM
08-10-2007, 05:51 PM
Oh shit, my bad, hahaha... I haven't listened to them in awhile, I need to get on that.

Jotun
08-10-2007, 05:51 PM
when bzm said he liked 311 i stopped taking anything he said seriously. i suggest you all do the same.

lol, what's wrong with 311?

Deathface
08-10-2007, 05:52 PM
lol, p-nut is not the drummer. Chad Sexton is

Jotun
08-10-2007, 05:53 PM
P-Nut's the drummer.

Edit. Nevermind.

Chad Sexton is the drummer, noob.

Manwë
08-10-2007, 05:53 PM
Oh shit, my bad, hahaha... I haven't listened to them in awhile, I need to get on that.

Nah nah you were right.

BZM
08-10-2007, 05:56 PM
Damn it, make up your mind people!

On that note, looks like your shit backfired, mircfool, rofl

Manwë
08-10-2007, 05:57 PM
Haha regardless of names, both of them are solid as shit.

mircfool
08-10-2007, 06:07 PM
311 is horrible. nothing but frat-catering shitty ass music.

wanna be groove drummer (aka white guy trying to be black) who uses many of the same beats throughout their way too long winded career.

bassist with no groove, only that of his white drummer.

to be "solid as shit" isn't that hard if you have any sense of rhythm

worst excuse for vocals i've ever heard with the again wanna be black white rapper, and the annoying ass whiny voice of nick hexum. the lyrics leave much to be desired, never really about anything meaningful or any cool ideas.

if you can point out a song that will contradict any of this ill gladly take my statement back.

yes ive gotten high and listened to them. still did nothing for me. made me pick out the imperfections even more and hate it more.

edit: with your expertise in the many other fields of music and your excruciating over analyzations of anything to come out, im still surprised you love such a simplistic band as this.

yeah
08-10-2007, 06:11 PM
why do you care enough to rant and rave about how you hate 311. who cares. save your energy. there's bigger fish to fry...like Psyopus

mircfool
08-10-2007, 06:14 PM
why do you care enough to rant and rave about how you hate 311. who cares. save your energy. there's bigger fish to fry...like Psyopus

ugh. dont get me started on psyopus. but yeah. i pulled a bzm on that one.

An_Autopsy
08-10-2007, 06:15 PM
But really, I -REALLY- like the first half of Decade Of Statues... it really hooked me, but then just like most new btbam, they start meandering and lose me. The rock singing part was fucking amazing. Then they start filler riffing, then that pointless clean part, then the HORRIBLE chromatic and sweeping shit... so disappointing :(
dude, i completely agree.
like, i don't think its necesarily horrible persay, i think its pretty catchy tbh, but its definetly got a new school btbam feel to it, which is sort of disappointing.

mircfool
08-10-2007, 06:16 PM
i have to agree about transitions on this one though. my two cents on that:

if you listen to s/t most of the transitions were drum initiated. there was always a lead in to everything, but it was mostly will's doing. maybe its just blake thats missing them, not paul

preech
08-10-2007, 06:18 PM
wow..."freakishly pink"(Lol's at underwear selection) i really never thought there could be someone as dumb as Deleon Band, but jebus titty fucking jew you're ignorant.the fact that you've made it apparent to have stupidity as your strong suit is just a godsend. i'm very glad that you think you can out wit BZM who has just made you look like a "welcome to Mcdonalds can i help you" representative.
The song in question was ok. but i hate to seriously see guys defend it to death just because its BTBAM. people that jock the fuck out of em (mircfool) just because they are btbam are plainly retarded when the music is nowhere up to par with the S/T - Silent Circus. i understand they need to change and make fresh music , but when the change is for the worse (imo) it seems there loyalist dick suckers and veggie protectors seem to be personally offended with it ( and knock someones personal taste/ music ability). If some of you went out on a limb and listened to new music , you'd see btbam is not doing anything different or special.

ten_second_infinity
08-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Ion Dissonance, Cryptopsy, Defeated Sanity, Helios, The Appleseed Cast, Cephalic Carnage, Despised Icon, Pig Destroyer, Spawn of Possession, Xasthur, Envy, World's End Girlfriend, Akira Yamaoka, SikTh, Gorguts, Suffocation, Mogwai, The Dillinger Escape Plan, The Beatles, Opeth, Ulver, Circa Survive, The End, The Hope Conspiracy, Martyr, Aereogramme, Converge... I could go on.

You cannot fuck with any band in this list. If you do, you are wrong, period.

Despised Icon suck pretty hard. Albeit their drummer being a machine.

An_Autopsy
08-10-2007, 06:22 PM
Despised Icon suck pretty hard. Albeit their drummer being a machine.

i thought healing process was fucking great.
as was consumed by your poison.
haven't given the new one much time.

yeah
08-10-2007, 06:24 PM
wow..."freakishly pink"(Lol's at underwear selection) i really never thought there could be someone as dumb as Deleon Band, but jebus titty fucking jew you're ignorant.the fact that you've made it apparent to have stupidity as your strong suit is just a godsend. i'm very glad that you think you can out wit BZM who has just made you look like a "welcome to Mcdonalds can i help you" representative.
The song in question was ok. but i hate to seriously see guys defend it to death just because its BTBAM. people that jock the fuck out of em (mircfool) just because they are btbam are plainly retarded when the music is nowhere up to par with the S/T - Silent Circus. i understand they need to change and make fresh music , but when the change is for the worse (imo) it seems there loyalist dick suckers and veggie protectors seem to be personally offended with it ( and knock someones personal taste/ music ability). If some of you went out on a limb and listened to new music , you'd see btbam is not doing anything different or special.



You tell em Don!

preech
08-10-2007, 06:25 PM
You tell em Don!i did a 1,2 skadoo dance after that one

underrealm
08-10-2007, 06:39 PM
It's the key/mode that is cheerful...it's the sweeping that is indulgent. But whatever, the argument has been made x amount of times and always ends up the same.

Just curious here, guys... What's so indulgent about a few sweeps? I personally found the 'Selkies' outtro to be somewhat fitting. The only thing that bugs me about it are the countless douchebags who are like "OMG! TEH SWEEPZ! NOTES AT LIKE A MILLION MILES AN HOUR!".

I mean, it can be a little "wanky", but it can also give that much more depth to a song. I think the way Paul plays the outro sweeps to Selkies is great because he does it in a way that it almost doesn't even sound like a guitar.

mircfool
08-10-2007, 06:40 PM
wow..."freakishly pink"(Lol's at underwear selection) i really never thought there could be someone as dumb as Deleon Band, but jebus titty fucking jew you're ignorant.the fact that you've made it apparent to have stupidity as your strong suit is just a godsend. i'm very glad that you think you can out wit BZM who has just made you look like a "welcome to Mcdonalds can i help you" representative.
The song in question was ok. but i hate to seriously see guys defend it to death just because its BTBAM. people that jock the fuck out of em (mircfool) just because they are btbam are plainly retarded when the music is nowhere up to par with the S/T - Silent Circus. i understand they need to change and make fresh music , but when the change is for the worse (imo) it seems there loyalist dick suckers and veggie protectors seem to be personally offended with it ( and knock someones personal taste/ music ability). If some of you went out on a limb and listened to new music , you'd see btbam is not doing anything different or special.

where have i mentioned anything about the new stuff in any of these threads? please enlighten me

ten_second_infinity
08-10-2007, 06:41 PM
i thought healing process was fucking great.
as was consumed by your poison.
haven't given the new one much time.

i should've said their latest album.
that's what i meant.

preech
08-10-2007, 06:44 PM
where have i mentioned anything about the new stuff in any of these threads? please enlighten mei just lumped you into it, because you are always backing them, even if they make shitty stuff.just using you as an example. and i do remember you raving about alaska like it was the best thing to hit the earth since penis and vagina sex.:emot-LOL:

Jotun
08-10-2007, 06:44 PM
Despised Icon's biggest problem has always been vocalists, to me...The music on Consumed By Your Poison is excellent, but that fucking bitch does 5,000HP damage with that shit voice of hers.

cloudscollide
08-10-2007, 06:57 PM
So yeah I gave the song another listen. (i'm trying not to listen to it too much until I hear the actual song) and I think it flows actaully pretty well. I love it.

An_Autopsy
08-10-2007, 06:59 PM
i should've said their latest album.
that's what i meant.

yeah, i've heard mixed reviews on it.

ten_second_infinity
08-10-2007, 07:06 PM
Despised Icon's biggest problem has always been vocalists, to me...The music on Consumed By Your Poison is excellent, but that fucking bitch does 5,000HP damage with that shit voice of hers.


was she at least attractive?

Jotun
08-10-2007, 07:08 PM
311 is horrible. nothing but frat-catering shitty ass music.

wanna be groove drummer (aka white guy trying to be black) who uses many of the same beats throughout their way too long winded career.



His skill is mostly in rudiments...he was a drum corps guy before he was in 311. Nobody said 311 is amazing, just that they don't suck as bad as you like to think they do, haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyTBEDKqV-o

I'm sure if he wanted to groove all over their records, he could...gotta be radio-friendly though.

was she at least attractive?

Fuck no...not to me anyways, haha.

An_Autopsy
08-10-2007, 07:10 PM
was she at least attractive?
i think i remember on the ion dissonance forums that somebody said she looked like the ginger chick who taught people to scream on that zen of screaming dvd, so.... no, sadly.:emot-fail

yeah
08-10-2007, 07:39 PM
the song is good. sounds better on the album

mircfool
08-10-2007, 07:39 PM
i just lumped you into it, because you are always backing them, even if they make shitty stuff.just using you as an example. and i do remember you raving about alaska like it was the best thing to hit the earth since penis and vagina sex.:emot-LOL:

i was just saying it wasnt as bad as everyone made it out to be.

st > tsc > anatomy of > alaska

GravesOfTheFathers
08-11-2007, 01:10 AM
wooo my state/concert venue is finally famous for something!

GravesOfTheFathers
08-11-2007, 01:23 AM
listen, the silent circus, and self titled were very very good, but alaska is one of the most beautifully destuctive albums of all time, its a masterpiece, selkies, all bodies, backwards marathon, the primer, autodidact, and of course alaska, all incredibly diverse, and equally amazing songs, don't get me wong the silent circus and the self titled are two of my favorite albums ever, but alaska definetly is my all time favorite and the writing on that album proves that btbam know how to do what they do very well, and for you to say that its not emotional, or that they are "cramming unrelated parts together" is just ridiculous....

Not really. Alaska has no structure whatsoever. It sounds like a bunch of random riffs slapped together. The only songs that shy away from that are Autodidact and Selkies.

holyfuck
08-11-2007, 01:28 AM
Not really. Alaska has no structure whatsoever. It sounds like a bunch of random riffs slapped together. The only songs that shy away from that are Autodidact and Selkies.

lol I would say the two songs you pointed out are examples of that.

Brogen
08-11-2007, 01:30 AM
lol I would say the two songs you pointed out are examples of that.

autodidact is probably the highlight of that cd

holyfuck
08-11-2007, 01:34 AM
autodidact is probably the highlight of that cd

this is fact

Brogen
08-11-2007, 01:45 AM
this is fact

its a wicked song. everytime i hear the breakdown all i see is michael jackson doing the moonwalk now. that adds to its awesomeness.

Six One Cynic
08-11-2007, 02:00 AM
I'd like add that Tommy (even with my little experience with this band) sounds exceptionally br00tal in that fucking video as compared to other ones I have seen.

Brogen
08-11-2007, 02:04 AM
I'd like add that Tommy (even with my little experience with this band) sounds exceptionally br00tal in that fucking video as compared to other ones I have seen.

his singing on the new songs is fucking wicked. the clean parts especially - hes improved a lot. at least what i heard live...

Brogen
08-11-2007, 03:03 AM
oh i should also mention..that sun of nothing blows this song out of the water - and from what i remember didnt have any of those "self indulged" parts. i love this song, but sun of nothing is truly a masterpiece.

concentrate
08-11-2007, 04:04 AM
I just listened to the .m4a of DOS. I fucking creamed. The part that Paul does where he does a strange sweep into ugly chords then alt picking always gets me. In case if no understood me it was around it was on the studio teaser and its on this vid at 4:31. FUCK!

adrianwar
08-11-2007, 04:21 AM
upload it

BZM
08-11-2007, 04:36 AM
I just listened to the .m4a of DOS. I fucking creamed. The part that Paul does where he does a strange sweep into ugly chords then alt picking always gets me. In case if no understood me it was around it was on the studio teaser and its on this vid at 4:31. FUCK!

That's the worst part of the song, to me at least.

xShrEDgex
08-11-2007, 04:51 AM
I just listened to the .m4a of DOS.


are you talking about the .m4a of the live video?

My Arms Your Hearse
08-11-2007, 05:20 AM
I dunno, it comes out of nowhere, but the part itself is awesome/reminds me of mario + aesthetic.

yeah
08-11-2007, 12:18 PM
^ haha, i was thinking that too

Brogen
08-11-2007, 03:55 PM
are you talking about the .m4a of the live video?

the m4a that i captured. a couple pages back i offered it to everyone. only two people asked for it.

Captain Amazing
08-13-2007, 12:50 PM
I really liked the 4:31 part... however I will agree with what others are saying on here that the transition to it was pretty poorly done. It's just like "Well, I couldn't think of anything else for this last part, so I guess I'll start something new here. Let's go guys."

I also will admit to not having a very wide range of musical knowledge or a very large catalogue. While I've at some point listened to an album or at least a few songs from each band that was on [as an example] the list that BZM posted awhile ago, my actual boundaries for musical enjoyment are quite narrow and small. I tend to find five or six bands I really like, listen the shit out of them for a few months, ignoring everything else, and then tossing them off my playlist, forgetting everything I've heard from them, and finding six new bands to repeat the process with. I have a very small library of shit I listen to reguarily that skips this process... BTBAM happens to be on that list [as is dredg, Poison the Well, Nothingface, Pink Floyd, Misery Signals, Matthew Good, and very few others]. That's not to say I'm someone who runs around critiquing everyone who doesn't like the same shit I like. Like whatever you want, just don't look down on ME for not liking something you like, or liking something you think is bullshit.

Anyway, the new shit sounds wicked and I want to hear this fucking album now. I was really hoping for it to leak last Thursday, as I spent about 15 hours driving on the weekend and was planning on spinning the album for all 15 of those hours. But alas, it'll have to wait until next month's road trips.

Wes
08-13-2007, 01:50 PM
....the transition to it was pretty poorly done....

...not having a very wide range of musical knowledge or a very large catalogue....

...my actual boundaries for musical enjoyment are quite narrow and small....

...I was really hoping for it to leak last Thursday...

BZM
08-14-2007, 03:33 AM
^^ bingo

Captain Amazing
08-14-2007, 05:17 PM
I included all that shit so people wouldn't read my opinion and take it as me trying to be elitist and think I know everything. I obviously don't know shit, but that's the observation I made while listening to the song, that the transition seemed kind of out of place with the rest of it.

I also said that I listened to a ton of music of wide varieties, I just don't usually end up making it regular on my playlist. I tend to listen to almost every album I come across at least once all the way through, not just one song and say "Oh this sucks". I just run through different phases.

But whatever right :emot-roll

Sudden Intoxication
08-14-2007, 08:29 PM
I obviously don't know shit.

I agree.