Bass Question on Psalms

[tenorbass]

Hello. I have been looking at the tabs that have been posted and I got some Questions about Jacob's basslines. Does he match everything the guitar does? In the tabs there are 32nd notes at 135 bpm witch would seem impossible for a bass player to do with fingers. So in cases like that did he do triplets or half the value?

Thanks!

[ChAAPY]

32nds at 135 bpm? isn't that pretty close to 16ths at around 250 bpm? I don't know the formula to figure that out (someone tell me!! haha) but that seems impossible unless played with a pick. the guy has some faaaaast fingers if he can do it though.

[tenorbass]

that would be 16ths at 270 bpm math master! ehe. I know erlend can do those speeds on bass. I wonder if the bassist to disgorge matches the guitar too cant really tell on there recordings aha.

[ten_second_infinity]

hope to see some more just like 'em emot-boun

[Hideous Infirmity]

He plays half of it, I think. He´s starting to work on 3 finger technique now though, and what I heard, he´s pretty fucking fast now.

I never cared much if the bass plays 8ths during speed picking, but hell, if he could play something like the "Addicted To Vaginal Skin" basspart tempo, that would be amazing!!!!!!

[Disincarnate]

16ths at 270 on a bass isnt that difficult...i can play 240 with a soft attack..give me another year i would be able to do that with a hard attack like Erlends.Im sure there are many bassists who could go at 270.Im sure SDG and webster can do that

[tenorbass]

The fastest SDG bassline I have heard was Out for blood witch had 16ths at 220 bpm. But hey its all good man. I just wanted to know what the bass was doing not bring anyone down on how fast they can play.

Oh and Addicted to Vaginal Skin is 16ths at 210 bpm aha.

[ChAAPY]

16ths at 270 on a bass isnt that difficult

With your fingers or with a pick? Either way I say BULLSHIT to that. 270 is WAY fucking difficult. How about you post a video if you can do it or show me a bass player who has done it?

that would be 16ths at 270 bpm math master! ehe.

How did you figure that out though?

[Cloaca]

32nd = twice as fast as a 16th

270bpm = twice as fast as 135bpm

Duh. :wink:

[tenorbass]

With your fingers or with a pick? Either way I say BULLSHIT to that. 270 is WAY fucking difficult. How about you post a video if you can do it or show me a bass player who has done it?


He plays with his fingers. I have to say no way too. Most guitar players cant eve do 250 bpm clean with a pick as we could see in Adam's topic on the DB forum. I would like to see a video or hear a mp3 of you Disincarnate playing at 240 bpm.

[Hideous Infirmity]

Oh and Addicted to Vaginal Skin is 16ths at 210 bpm aha.

one of the most awesome sounding bass parts in Death Metal!

[ten_second_infinity]

32nd = twice as fast as a 16th

270bpm = twice as fast as 135bpm

Duh. :wink:

Simple math.

If you use 3 or 4 finger technique I'm pretty sure it's not impossible to get to those speeds. Playing with a pick versus playing with 4 fingers is totally different.

[SculptedCold]

Yeah, you can play so much faster with fingers once they're built up like taloned sausages. The problem of course is getting clean, consistent notes. I daresay the controversial speed is quite possible with three fingers. Whether it would sound like it, or good at all is also a different matter.

[ChAAPY]

32nd = twice as fast as a 16th

270bpm = twice as fast as 135bpm

Duh. :wink:

doh!

[Vriend]

16ths at 270 on a bass isnt that difficult...i can play 240 with a soft attack..give me another year i would be able to do that with a hard attack like Erlends.Im sure there are many bassists who could go at 270.Im sure SDG and webster can do that
Bullshit, I want some proof of this.

[luciodeath]

one of the most awesome sounding bass parts in Death Metal!

WORD! I can't describe what i felt when i listened to that for the first time, a couple of years ago. All i can say is, believe you or not, it changed my life, hauhauhauh.

[luciodeath]

Honestly, i do not believe this guy can play this fast. If really can, i'm pretty sure he will came up with a video of him.

[Hideous Infirmity]

WORD! I can't describe what i felt when i listened to that for the first time, a couple of years ago. All i can say is, believe you or not, it changed my life, hauhauhauh.

same here man! Tomb is so fucking sick!

[Alpha~Omega]

I remember Webster once posted on the Cannibal forum that he would be interested to get lessons from a bass player that can play 240bpm at 16th with fingers. So 270bpm? No way, unless all four fingers have the same length than it could be possible.

[tenorbass]

I remember Webster once posted on the Cannibal forum that he would be interested to get lessons from a bass player that can play 240bpm at 16th with fingers. So 270bpm? No way, unless all four fingers have the same length than it could be possible.

Yea I remember him saying that on the forum. He uses 3 fingers 3212. Hes a super bass player still. His attack on Tomb was amazing. Great bass player. Check this video out if you like Alex http://youtube.com/watch?v=1xIbCEdtWzw Watch his bass overdub at 2:35

[LucienLaTulipe]

This Webster's video is'nt bad too: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QOb6JSQd-Qw&mode=related&search=
I play bass since two years and I am able to play 16ths at 110 (with two fingers, three fingers is no way for the moment). Not enough to play the Defeated Sanity tabs i've seen, but I guess it's possible to play a lot of this stuff with two fingers, since a lot of string-skipping is involved. In any case, I don't think Jacob do the same than the guitar, it's too fast! Maybe he just divides 16ths to 8ths: easier to play, and easier to hear through the others instruments...

[SculptedCold]

That was a funky DVD that came with Wretched Spawn ltd. The Frantic Disembowelment studio clip blew my mind when I first saw it. Such beautiful fret dancing.

[Alpha~Omega]

Isn't Sean Malone playing only with two fingerstyle (or at least he prefers it)? He has a damn good control and is pretty fast that way, he also plays the Jaco stuff.

[luciodeath]

Adam Nitti is damn fast as well. Two fingers only.
John Alderete (Racer X) is damn fast as well. Two fingers only.
Find your way.

[Disincarnate]

With your fingers or with a pick? Either way I say BULLSHIT to that. 270 is WAY fucking difficult. How about you post a video if

i never said i could do 270 as of now...i showed tenorbass a vid of me playing abhorrent desecration yesterday but he said i couldnt hear the bass so ill do a new vid soon.

[luciodeath]

you said you could play at 240bpm. i would like to see that...

[Disincarnate]

dont worry youll get to see it in a couple of days

[Disincarnate]

me playing 16ths at 240 on fatal self inflicted disfigurement on bass with 3 fingers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDfh284vzcg



EDIT:oh and there is no 32nd notes riff at 135 in fatal self inflicted disfigurement

[Cloaca]

Bit hard to hear anything, Akshat.

[luciodeath]

Indeed.

[Erland]

I really can`t make out a single note with that quality :S

[Disincarnate]

i did it with the phone cam and my amp is kinda fucked

[Erland]

Here`s 250bpm. that`s as far as my metronome goes :S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIcWeIP1qVM

[tenorbass]

Here`s 250bpm. that`s as far as my metronome goes :S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIcWeIP1qVM

Nice one! What finger pattern you using? Looked like thumb 1 2 3

[Erland]

I never used the matt garrison method. Just regular 4-3-2-1.

[tenorbass]

Oh got ya. Nice worky! How fast is the new incinerate stuff? Faster 16ths than 250?!

[Erland]

260-265 or so.

[luciodeath]

that's pretty inhuman shit hauauha

[Disincarnate]

hey Lille who played Bass on Psalms btw?is he still playing with you guys?

[Rhino Grindethic]

hey Lille who played Bass on Psalms btw?is he still playing with you guys?

this man:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2685/defeatedsanitybandjacobie9.jpg

and yes, he's since joined the band on a permanent basis.