The new Disavowed is...

[metzgored]

...great.
got it yesterday at the bringer of death fest in giebelstadt!!

[Robbe K]

Cool!!!

I hope everybody will receive their pre-order soon as well!
Did you watch the video's on the CD?

[Vriend]

Cool!!!

I hope everybody will receive their pre-order soon as well!
Did you watch the video's on the CD?

I want it fast yeah

[Robbe K]

I guess Ruud will continue sending them this week!

[Robbe K]

I am sorry: I deleted a post with a download link of our new record!
We don't mind sharing, but not on this forum!

Greetz Robbe

[ResetInput]

Absolutelly fucking kickass! That song...Treason...the ending groove; it gave me goosebumps when you played it live here in Slovenia and its doing the same right now. Insane material. Cant stop listening to this stuff. Congrats Disavowed...you did it again.

[Archaeon]

ROBBE i love you!

this is my favorite release so far this year, i was skeptic at first, now i must order this and 365 shirts so i can wear one for each day of the year.

AHHH I LOVE YOU!

[Surt]

I am sorry: I deleted a post with a download link of our new record!
We don't mind sharing, but not on this forum!

Greetz Robbe

don't apologise man... only a fuckin idiot would try and steal straight from a band AND post their swag right under their noses.

ANNIHILATE THEM!

*ahem*

[Robbe K]

Ha Ha!! Thanx guys!

He Surt: Had a nice weekend on the Neurotic fest?
I couldn't come (pregnant lady) and I believe non of Disavowed was there...aiaiaiaiaiaiaia

Did you receive your package already? Did Ruud sell the CD on the fest?

Hope to see you next year (and hope to play there as well)

[nmorchyths]

great album! congratulations.

especially the drumming is so badass!!! romain, you rule.

can't wait to see you guys live.

how about a short trip to the DEATHFEAST?

[Surt]

Ha Ha!! Thanx guys!

He Surt: Had a nice weekend on the Neurotic fest?
I couldn't come (pregnant lady) and I believe non of Disavowed was there...aiaiaiaiaiaiaia

Did you receive your package already? Did Ruud sell the CD on the fest?

Hope to see you next year (and hope to play there as well)

yeah the fest was good, some really cool bands actually that surprised me with how much i liked them (Hour Of Penance, Despise to name two).

I saw some guy in a Stagnated Existence hood but couldn't work out if it was Gerben or Nils for 100% definate heh, probably not.

I've not got the package yet either. I was kind of hoping it'd arrived whilst I was in Holland but no luck as yet. I had to fight the temptation to buy a second copy while i was there to last me till if/when the preorder arrives.

[ysqure3]

I can't wait for my preorder to arrive
I just listened to Perceptive Deception again and am going through the tracks Neurotic posted
Oughtta be so great!

[ChAAPY]

the production kills!!!!!

[metzgored]

Cool!!!

I hope everybody will receive their pre-order soon as well!
Did you watch the video's on the CD?

I had no time yet, I´m very busy at the moment.

[Seebu]

I didn't get the e-mail that would've contained ordering info and such! :(

[Robbe K]

Nils! Are you still working on the emailing?

[Robbe K]

the production kills!!!!!

That's for me personally great to hear, as I worked on it for months!

Thanx!

[pierced]

This album rules. I am sure I'll buy the CD, when it finally comes out. Nils and Romain are masters.

[boneman]

my pre-order package needs to get here. Like now!

I'm sure it'll be worth all the waiting though.

[xdevilbunny]

Fuck I want my pre-order package, the album fucking slays.

[Surt]

This album rules. I am sure I'll buy the CD, when it finally comes out. Nils and Romain are masters.

technically it is out, it's just no-one's received the pre-order package yet.

[Choronzon]

http://www.masterful-magazine.com/review_result.php?wynik=detail&rodzaj=recenzje&id=1787

You girls got the interview I sent in the other day in support of this record?

[Vriend]

technically it is out, it's just no-one's received the pre-order package yet.
I want it so bad.

[Robbe K]

http://www.masterful-magazine.com/review_result.php?wynik=detail&rodzaj=recenzje&id=1787

You girls got the interview I sent in the other day in support of this record?

Where did you send it too?
You can also send it to me: robbek@paekt.com
Maybe you will receive two sets of answers then! haha!

[Uncle Les]

I would say that the new Disavowed is a lesson of modern brutal death metal !!!
I wasn't very familiar with Disavowed until the gig in Bulgaria(Sofia),but after that this band become my favourite ! Actually most of the people on the consert were very impressed from Disavowed not so much from Cannibal Corpse !
So THE NEW ALBUM IS A KILLER !
But i would say that i love Perceptive Deception more ! And the demo Plateau as well ! I guess i gotta listen the new album more to price it properly !

[boneman]

anyone gotten their's yet? cause I haven't =(

[Suicide Machine]

I NEED THIS FUCKING ALBUM!

The temptation to buy one at NDF was huge and I hate downloading stuff I've already ordered, it just kills it.

[Vriend]

I NEED THIS FUCKING ALBUM!

The temptation to buy one at NDF was huge and I hate downloading stuff I've already ordered, it just kills it.
It was for sale on NDF? 0.o
You have to be fucking kidding me!

[Suicide Machine]

It was for sale on NDF? 0.o
You have to be fucking kidding me!

I held it in my hands. (I think) :emot-fail

[Vriend]

I held it in my hands. (I think) :emot-fail
Thank god I didn't see that or else I would flip! I want it!

[Surt]

i checked out the Neurotic table and they had that along with Arsebreed, Ruins, Panzerchrist and something else.

i had to restrain myself from buying it too out of sheer naivety thinking that the fact I'd pre-ordered it might actually mean i stood a chance of getting it before someone picking it up off that table that day, hoping it had been delivered whilst i was in Holland a week ago. evidently not.

Still nothing either.

As much as I hate to slag NR off or anything as such because I believe Ruud genuinely does do a really good thing with the label, it's really starting to make even me get a bit pissed off now.

Considering, according to the "news" on the NR site itself, they were being posted last week (ie the week that ended with Neurotic Deathfest) and the fact that shipping from Central America rarely takes more than a week... i guess it's just creating more questions than answers wondering if / when the bastard things are ever gonna show up.

I'm just glad I resisted temptation to pre-order the VB too otherwise i'd really be flipping out right now.

[wilkins]

I ordered mine in november!

I want a free something to make up for the wait! Hand relief perhaps!

[Robbe K]

Maybe we should give Ruud a hand relief?

[Robbe K]

I hate the long wait too, people...

[Subjugate]

This album is fucking amazing. Disavowed surprised the shit out of me. For a while I didnt think it was going to be that great, but the fact that they wen t in a more technical direction won me over. Honestly i dont think this and Perceptive deception can really be compared, this tramples the fuck over it

[Robbe K]

Ha Ha!

[dizzadaen]

this tramples the fuck over it

Haha, thanx man! Glad it did...

[sofia]

The new Disavowed kicks all sorts of ass!

[Giulio - Hourofpenan]

I've picked up the new Disavowed album in a distro here in italy.
Guys..you did a masterpiece of brutality! I never have been so impressed since Dying Fetus'Destroy the Opposition.
Congratulations!

[Robbe K]

Thanx Giulio!!!!

Cannot wait to hear your upcoming Hour of Penance album on UL Records!!! Congrats again!!!

[Subjugate]

Haha, thanx man! Glad it did...



just givin credit where credits due

[Giulio - Hourofpenan]

thx Robbe! hope you guys will like it!

[Suicide Machine]

ASDJFKAWERUHIQODSHGLMSDANVSDF! I NEED TO HEAR THIS ALBUM RIGHT NOW! MUST RESIST TEMPTATION TO DOWNLOAD!!!!!! ARGH!!!!

Btw Biased Existance has been tabbed out on Rivers of Gore. Strange feeling beeing able to play a song before you've heard it. :D

[Surt]

if i don't get it by June, i'm fucking downloading it.

Not sitting around here like a pissin lemon naively waiting for anything pre-order shaped to arrive.

[Robbe K]

I can understand your frustration, man!!!
Just do it and start listening to the album! You ordered it anyway! And still: people who ordered the album have the extra stuff: cover art, shirt, cdrom video's etc.

[boneman]

yea I downloaded it yesterday because I haven't received the pre-order package yet, and I must say: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking A!!!!!!!!!!

the album kicks fucking ass dudes. Seriously, this is my pick of the year easily. It makes me happy in the pants. Bad ass album. Can't wait to hear of you dudes writing new material after numerous tours (come to the states!!)

[Vriend]

I can understand your frustration, man!!!
Just do it and start listening to the album! You ordered it anyway! And still: people who ordered the album have the extra stuff: cover art, shirt, cdrom video's etc.
I"m not waiting any longer for my pre order to arrive to listen to it as well, I'm downloading it right now. Hope the extra stuff is worth the waiting!

[Surt]

I can understand your frustration, man!!!
Just do it and start listening to the album! You ordered it anyway! And still: people who ordered the album have the extra stuff: cover art, shirt, cdrom video's etc.

yeah man, I think that's partly why i'm getting even more agitated cause of how much i'm looking forward to hearing it on top of the frankly piss poor delivery techniques Ruud always seems to employ.

NOW COME PLAY ENGLAND YA BALD BAR STEWARD!

[Robbe K]

Yes, we will have to do that!! Kick some England butt!

[Suicide Machine]

Damn I heard a few songs today, my friend has it and fuck it is good! I think I'm gonna download it sometime soon. Sorry, but I don't want to miss out on this!

[Malignant Tumor]

NEW DISAVOWED IS GOD!!!!!

[deathmelz]

THE NEW DISAVOWED ... STILL HAS NOT ARRIVED!!!

...is there a complaint topic somewhere? :)

[Surt]

no, but there's a disciplined (for now) organised queue. You're best taking a number and waiting for them to get back to you in a few weeks time to let you know the pre-orders will be shipped out that week.

[Skin Coffin]

I finally got this today! The slip case is really cool too. You guys did an amazing job with this one. This is definetly one of the best releases of 2007!

I'm shocked more people haven't recieved their pre-orders yet since i got mine, and i live about as far west as you can get in canada.. weird.

[Surt]

it's fucking stupid.

I placed an order with No Escape Records in Australia at least 12 days after the pre-orders were announced to be being shipped out AND received that Australian order virtually a week ago, and yet there's still no sign of a parcel from fuckign Holland.

Although it's good news of sorts that the preorders are actually turning up, it's fucking disgusting how people who've actually spent MORE money pre-ordering the complete packages still haven't reeceived anything and STILL have no news, estimations or anythign as to when or even if they're going to get shit all in the mail.

As soon as Brutal Bands get the albums, i'm getting it from them. Fuck Neurotic.

Labels, distance and how long on average they take to deliver:
Brutal Bands, Unmatched Brutality, Goregiastic - , , and respectively - all take an average of a week and a half to arrive maximum
No Escape Records - TEN AND A HALF THOUSAND MILES - arrived in about 7-10 days
Neurotic Records - 350 miles - so far been waiting since February with nothing but circumstantial announcements and secrecy just trying to find out what the fuck's happened to my order.

hardly reeking of a so-called professional organisation.
Probably guaranteeing me not being welcome at Neurotic Deathfest next year like but I don't care. This is fucking beyond a joke.
If you're going to screw people around at least pretend to keep them informed.

I finally got this today! The slip case is really cool too. You guys did an amazing job with this one. This is definetly one of the best releases of 2007!

I'm shocked more people haven't recieved their pre-orders yet since i got mine, and i live about as far west as you can get in canada.. weird.

so the packages can magically make it the nearly five thousand miles from Tilburg to Victoria but not the 356 miles to me?

No worries. Should mean I stand a good chance of possibly getting my order from Neurotic Records sometime before I turn 30.

[Skin Coffin]

so the packages can magically make it the nearly five thousand miles from Tilburg to Victoria but not the 356 miles to me?

No worries. Should mean I stand a good chance of possibly getting my order from Neurotic Records sometime before I turn 30.

That doesn't make much sense to me either. I was actually kinda shocked that i got it today since so many people all over these forums have been waiting probably a lot longer than i have (i ordered mine in march) and yet i got mine before them.

I wonder what the deal with that is...

[Robbe K]

Yes, it is very disturbing! Totally agree here!
For us: We were supposed to have the CD's with us on tour: it was very disturbing for us that they were not finished at that point...

[Surt]

Does Ruud even keep you guys up to speed about what's going on or are you as in the dark as everyone else?

[Robbe K]

Look: Neurotic is his label!
As a band, we can only ask him what is going on, like I did last week! He told me, he is sending out orders and yes, I know what went wrong with the printing of the album: the company Neurotic normally works with, totally fucked up: The order for the Disavowed CD's could be cancelled and transfered to another company, for the VB ones, I don't know.. So, That is the deal, right now: Ruud is getting the shipment in and he is sending them out one shipment of CD's at a time to the people on the list and the distributers...
As for Ruud not reacting: he is probably fed up with this as well and is trying to resolve everything: Do you think Ruud likes all of this? No, it's not good for the bands and the label!
So it all is bad bad luck! You wil lreceive the CD eventually!

[Surt]

all i was asking was were you guys kept aware of shit, as he seems adverse to making any progress reports or announcements relating to customers more than a couple of ambiguous statements once every few weeks so i was simply curious as to whether you guys were being kept in the dark or not.

I wasn't trying to pass any blame on to you guys or anything like that.

It's really rare in all the years i've been ordering shit off the internet for something to repeatedly go as monumentally wrong as the Neurotic pre-order packages repeatedly have so I'm naturally probably making a mountain out of a molehill.

It might well have been "bad luck" and everything, but it wouldn't exactly hurt or cause as much negative publicity/feedback about Neurotic if he actually just said effectively what you've just said there about them being mailed out one shipment at a time.

Hell, we've pretty much been left to formulate our own reasons, speculation and conspiracies as to why shit's taken so long rather than simply being put in our place by someone that's actually seen to be trying to keep us up to date with what's going on rather than just keeping us hanging.
It's not the first time it's happend and such negative comments/threads have circulated, which surely you'd think would have meant that there'd be an effort made to at least improve the PR face of it after the malignant animosity of the Visceral Bleeding preorders not to mention the Spawn Of Possession ones too.

End of the day, i gave Ruud the benefit of the doubt back in November and pre-ordered a package from Neurotic having blind faith that with allt he shit that went on with the previous pre-orders, significant changes would happen and stuff would start workin perfectly... only to find myself seven months down the line in the situation where (SOME OF) the pre-orders have only just been started to be shipped and the majority of us are still left in the dark as to when we're ever going to get the pissin CD.


I actually naively thought that by pre-ordering the cd i'd actually stand a chance of getting the CD relatively early on in it's availibility, when it's actually turned out i'd have been better off not doing a pre-order and i've had had the CD in my hands weeks ago.


I know this has nothing to do with the band, my diatribe is aimed squarely at Neurotic's piss poor handling of it, and i'll always consider myself a Disavowed fan permanently... i guess i'm just venting.

[Vriend]

And the waiting continues...

[Vriend]

Look: Neurotic is his label!
As a band, we can only ask him what is going on, like I did last week! He told me, he is sending out orders and yes, I know what went wrong with the printing of the album: the company Neurotic normally works with, totally fucked up: The order for the Disavowed CD's could be cancelled and transfered to another company, for the VB ones, I don't know.. So, That is the deal, right now: Ruud is getting the shipment in and he is sending them out one shipment of CD's at a time to the people on the list and the distributers...
As for Ruud not reacting: he is probably fed up with this as well and is trying to resolve everything: Do you think Ruud likes all of this? No, it's not good for the bands and the label!
So it all is bad bad luck! You wil lreceive the CD eventually!
What I don't get, is that it was for sale on NDF.

[Robbe K]

Yeah! That is not really nice for the people who did the pre-orders!
As for the Disavowed shirts we had on tour: that are our own shirts we ordered for the tour: Ruud orders his own pile of shirt!
Surt: I totally understand! It's frustrating!

[Vriend]

Yeah! That is not really nice for the people who did the pre-orders!
I know, that why it's frustrating. I could have bought it seperatly, and get it sooner!
At least you explained the shirt part, but it still bugs me.

[Robbe K]

Yeah! It works like this: we record the album and give a master copy to Ruud: Ruud goes to a company to print the CD's! We get a certain amount of CD's from Ruud for ourselves to sell..
Basically, it is up to Ruud...

[Surt]

group hug?

[Robbe K]

Yeah: let's hug!!! haha!

p.s. the weather is beautiful here in Miami!

[Jack de rimmer]

Can you bring me some Jiff peanutbutter?

[Robbe K]

from Ruud's arse?

[Jack de rimmer]

Yeah!:biggrin:

[Robbe K]

oeee

[Jack de rimmer]

With some extra large nuts please:biggrin:

[Vriend]

group hug?
When I get my preorder, ok?

[Seebu]

I haven't received my order, I ordered from Nils. That was two weeks ago.

[wilkins]

When I get my preorder, ok?

As much as I'm anxious to get my prer-order, there is always time for man hugs!

[Vriend]

As much as I'm anxious to get my prer-order, there is always time for man hugs!
Man hugs? If you say so
*Gives Wilkins a man hug*

[pooptastik]

............still waiting for my order....

[Vriend]

............still waiting for my order....
Everybody does

[Surt]

Everybody is

*fixed

[Jack de rimmer]

As much as I'm anxious to get my prer-order, there is always time for man hugs!

:biggrin: Yeah!

[Suicide Machine]

Hooray, it came today! First listen was convincing for sure! But for the next cd, try and sneek in a solo or 20. ;)

[Robbe K]

We were thinking about playing solo's, as Daan is very good at it, but we didn't do it: Solo's are for gays (which we are, so the next album will contain solo's for sure...)

[Juan]

We were thinking about playing solo's, as Daan is very good at it, but we didn't do it: Solo's are for gays (which we are, so the next album will contain solo's for sure...)

Cool then bro!!!

[Archaeon]

We were thinking about playing solo's, as Daan is very good at it, but we didn't do it: Solo's are for gays (which we are, so the next album will contain solo's for sure...)

hopefully we wont have to wait 6 years for this one! haha

[Surt]

fuck man. there's so many different flavours on this album... doesn't seem at all content with just running through the 2 or 3 minutes per song just plodding along... each song seems to be a unique organic mass burrowing it's way into your brain....

not wanting to piss on Perceptive Deception at all, but to use a description i used when describing 'Stagnated...' to a friend the other day... 'Perceptive...' seems (at least in hindsight) to be an album where the band were seeing what they could do and what they were capable of, whereas with 'Stagnated...' it's the band taking what they learnt from that, using it and pushing the envelope on top, doing things i'm pretty confident I wouldn't have anticipated hearing in a "Disavowed song".

Fucking nice work on teh vocals too Bob. I honestly was a little sceptical/worried when you said you were going to be aiming for a little more "range" (not sure if that's the word you used) with them on this album but fuck... sick as fuck. Not so varied that they lose their cohesion but different vocal textures, along with some sick-ass pseudo-gutturals (pseudo cause, well, they're not the generic Matti Way style stuff but still slightly gurgly).


*ramble*

[Robbe K]

Word!!!!!

I agree with you, here!
Yeah: as for the vocals: I wanted to record my vocals as "normal" as possible, so no heavy eq'ing (the way how you can make your vocals sound more gutteral as they in fact are) or heavy compression. I also wanted to aim more to an old school vibe here: I have had it a bit with the "frog style" at the moment, but that can change in the future haha
Thanx!!

[Surt]

yeah man... i know shit all about techniques regarding vocals or anything but to be blunt with you, your shit on 'Stagnated...' just sounds fucking... well, i can't think of the word, but they're way better than the sound i'd become accustomed to on Perceptive Deception and probably better than your half of the Arsebreed vocals.

i'll stop here like before i totally start kissing your arse man, but needless to say 'Stagnated...' is more than living up to my expectations so far...

[Robbe K]

Great!

[boneman]

so mine should be arriving soon then... yussssssssssssssssssss

[boneman]

I got my pre-order in the mail on Monday. Good fucking package I must say, the cd fucking rules, the shirt is ace quality and looks very rad and the poster is already hanging on the wall. Well worth the wait.


edit: just got done watching the bonus cd-rom stuff and yea, definately worth the fucking wait.

[Jack de rimmer]

We were thinking about playing solo's, as Daan is very good at it, but we didn't do it: Solo's are for gays (which we are, so the next album will contain solo's for sure...)

Yeah! Go Daantje! :emot-high

[foreign10]

the default picture on the disavowed myspace says the album is out now...but I can't buy at willow tip or at neurotic

[el bastardo loco]

You can buy it through us....... send an email to info@disavowed.nl....

[foreign10]

ah ok! thank you for explaining that.

[Mol]

Listening to it for the first time... what can I say? AMAZING! This album easily tops Perceptive Deception. Definitely worth the wait.

[Vriend]

I really like the albums, the lyrics are awesome!

[Robbe K]

Yeah!!!! You finally got it! Thanx!

[Vriend]

Yeah!!!! You finally got it! Thanx!
Thanks man, I am so happy with this! I really enjoyed reading the lyrics along with the cd. Now I understand the cover.

[Robbe K]

AA!! That is really cool!! I like it when people enjoy the lyrics!! Thanx bro!

[Juan]

My copy is here!!!

The CD really kick ass, pure and fucking brutality

Btw Thanx Daan for the greetings and for wear our shirt(making of)

Congrats guys for this awesome album!!

[cagedbychrist]

Alright, I really have to talk about this album. This shit is fucking really really tight. Its been one of my favorite albums since I downloaded it ( I had already ordered it, couldn't wait to hear it ) With all the "brutal" deathmetal being played right now, which I love don't get me wrong, you guys put out a technically proficient, orgasmic to the ears album. I'm not a musician ( besides being an aspiring vocalist ) but everything on the album is tight. Dude, you're vocals are fucking sick. I'd really like to see you guys live, because man the vocals really stand out from a lot of the growls and shit i've been hearing lately. The drumming is of course sick, and I dont give a fuck what people say about "breakdowns" or whatever you want to call them in deathmetal, but the parts in "Treason" and "Dogmatic Deceit", where it breaks down, are so fucking badass it makes me want to fight someone. Anyway, this is a really "unprofessional" review but I just wanted to let you know that I really dig the album. Also, I got the cover art as my background. Seriously one of my favorite covers of all time competing with some greats like "...And Time Begins". That's about it. Hope to see you guys play sometime.

[foreign10]

yep it's great. but I've gotta say that I preferred the vocal style used on Perceptive more. they were very unique. I appreciate that robbe is doing something different, but I'm not a fan of the overdone low vocals (like near the end of "Treason" during the "breakdown" riff). but the vocals are still unique and with death metal being picky about vocals is pretty silly I guess. but this new album is really a step up for Disavowed when it comes to technicality...even though I do miss the simple and addictive catchy riffs used on the first album. but traces of that are still on this one. basically the album is great...but too short! haha....Disavowed needs a 6 minute epic song or something!

[SculptedCold]

Condemned are awful.

[cagedbychrist]

Condemned are awful.

Maybe make posts that are fucking relevant to the thread.

[Drowned]

Listened to this album twice through and have attempted to do so again about 5 times, but I always lose interest. It sounds like some half-assed Deeds Of Flesh record....quite a letdown IMO.

[SculptedCold]

Maybe make posts that are fucking relevant to the thread.

Maybe try to express yourself without swearing. You might trick people into thinking you have a brain.

[cagedbychrist]

Maybe try to express yourself without swearing. You might trick people into thinking you have a brain.

Ah. Making a statment assuming someone who "swears" isn't intelligent, is, in turn, pretty unitelligent.

[SculptedCold]

Indeed. But when you live in a country infested with people whose every other word is a swear, it becomes extremely grating ever hearing it. Swearing becomes synonymous with a mental inability to articulate or express, and that in turn tends to foster the impression of someone being stupid or lazy.

No one really wins, but I could have much worse prejudices. In Britain, this one usually works surprisingly well.

[foreign10]

Listened to this album twice through and have attempted to do so again about 5 times, but I always lose interest. It sounds like some half-assed Deeds Of Flesh record....quite a letdown IMO.
interesting...I think disavowed is like 10 times more interesting than deeds of flesh. I was a little disapointed at first listen too. but with more listening I became less dissapointed.

[Surt]

Listened to this album twice through and have attempted to do so again about 5 times, but I always lose interest. It sounds like some half-assed Deeds Of Flesh record....quite a letdown IMO.

but you're a Malignancy fan, so you're bound to have bad taste in music ;)

[SculptedCold]

Malignancy are fab, but Disavowed have a streamlined, lethal simplicity to them. They remind me of a frillier Brutus.

[Robbe K]

Word

[foreign10]

that's a good way to put it. the catchy-ness of the riffs in all Disavowed songs is infectious.

[cagedbychrist]

Disavowed makes me happy.

[Yuma]

Disavowed makes me much more than happy... and it's all positive!

Hell Yeah

[Robbe K]

Hell Yeah!!!

[Transient]

disavowed arent self proclaimed MONOTONOUS DEATH METAL though. man i love brutus for that.

hey wheres joeybreed been?

[SculptedCold]

Brutus have the riffs though.

[Cloaca]

Honestly, after Psalms Of The Moribund, this has been my favourite DM release of the year so far. Didn't really see this coming because I wasn't the biggest fan of Perceptive Deception (although I like it more since I heard Stagnated), so the surprise was very nice. There's something about this album, despite the fact that it isn't that varied, it's very hard to get sick of it. Robbe's unique vocals are sick, I normally don't make too big a deal out of vocals but he brings the goods. Aside from that everything is tight, and despite the clarity of the guitar tone it feels like you left a bit of grittiness in there, which is important for me. There's some interesting drum beats on the CD too.

My favourite tracks are probably The Eternal Validity and The Veils Of Misconception.

Oh, and that album cover. Fuck me, that's easily one of the best covers I've seen. I even put it as my mobile phone background.

Good work dudes.

[Robbe K]

Thanx, bro!!!

[deathmelz]

It's a fucking embarrassment, that's what it is...

*plah*

[ixdxpx]

Sick as fuck! The vocals have more range and varied styles. The riffs still have the Disavowed trademark, but its ten times heavier, and the drums are tight as a fuck! Big shoes to fill in the drum department alright, and the new drummer delivered!

I also like the multimedia section. The making of the album, the live footage, etc... is authored fucking killer! This came as a surprise to me as the advertisements didn't mention the bonus material.

Overall, its a sick album! Now, I got to get me some new Disavowed merch! Thank you Disavowed for not wimping out!

[Necro Nick]

the drummer is well rounded and inspiring over a lot of others and it's a signature disavowed release. the production is primitive and that's better then the over polished garbage coming out.

[Robbe K]

It's a fucking embarrassment, that's what it is...

*plah*

??? What is?

[Jack de rimmer]

It was gezellig yesterday dudes. Good luck with your show tonight.

And Robbe, i can't remember it exactly, but did i licked your nose yesterday?

[Robbe K]

Yes, You did! And my ear as well!

Great!!!!

haha

[kaasplank]

Dikke show gisteren mannen. Gaaf om het nieuwe materiaal live te zien.

[chokeslam]

vet zeker te weten!
volgende keer WEL dogmatic deceit spelen! :D

[Robbe K]

Fok idd:
Romain wilde het niet.....

Bedankt mensen! Erg lekker gespeeld zondag!

[Ganjannibal]

I love it, it's a masterpiece of brutal death metal !
Congratulations !

[Transient]

robbe PM sent

[Thijs]

Beetje laat, maar was erg vet zondag!
Was een erg geslaagd feestje, alleen balen dat ik Obsidian heb gemist.

[RATA]

fuckin great album, one of the best of 2007... but i like perspective more, i never get tired for listen this cd, hope you guys dont take other 6 years to throw the next one.

[foreign10]

the only thing that dissapoints me is the vocal style robbe used for this album. it's more in the Arsebreed vein than the style he used on Perceptive Deception. that's what really kept the two bands different to me. other than that the album is great.

[tattooedsean777]

really enjoying it. can't wait for MDF 2008!

[Surt]

the only thing that dissapoints me is the vocal style robbe used for this album. it's more in the Arsebreed vein than the style he used on Perceptive Deception. that's what really kept the two bands different to me. other than that the album is great.

you do know that there's two, rather different sounding, vocalists in Arsebreed not just Robbe, right?

I think Bob's vocals are bang on actually. Shows he's more than a one trick pony with the hand-cupping thing and he can actually do 'vokills' with more depth.

[Robbe K]

Exactly: Perceptive Deception was basically totally cupped! + The vocals were mixed in a weird way: all the bass and highs were cut out!

[foreign10]

you do know that there's two, rather different sounding, vocalists in Arsebreed not just Robbe, right?
yeah I know.

and I enjoyed the weirdly mixed vocals. it was almost like they were being whispered. it was something so different and enjoyable.

[Robbe K]

Ha Ha! Cool! It is something different, I agree!
For the new vocals: It's basically me, straight into the pre-amp and a little bit of reverb, so it's more as how I sound live!
Thanx for your support, bro!

[foreign10]

no problem! even if it gets mixed responses, it's cool that you're trying something different!

[cagedbychrist]

If you don't like the new Disavowed you like men!

[Surt]

*waits for someone to mention homosexual Disavowed fans*

[foreign10]

another thing that was such an important thing to Disavowed (at least to me) was the simplicity and catchy-ness of their riffs. now I'm not asking for you guys to write catchy songs or anything because I'm the type of person that doesn't mind listening to an album multiple times to understand the structure of a song. they're are traces of this on the new album that RULE "Restricted Conceptions" "Dogmatic Conceit" and "Treason" are the first that come to mind. but you guys really improved technically. but I felt like the technical side of Disavowed was Arsebreed. man I complain to much....haha. I don't hate the new album at all. I really like it actually. it proves that you guys have a unique style which is why I love this band so much. I feel like I've said this before....hahahahahaha

ok this was my last little thing here I don't want Robbe to irritate his eyes from reading my thoughts so you can skip to the end and read this...

SUMMARY
I'm too picky about music :emot-LOL:

[Robbe K]

No, man! It is cool to read different opinions!
I thought more people would prefer the vocals of "Perceptive" over "Stagnated", but overall, it is the other way around.

The weird and twisted side of Disavowed is Arsebreed..hehehe

Thanx bro!

[Transient]

perceptive gets on my nerves....sorry! but they do

[Surt]

to be honest, while the simplicity and catchiness of the riffs in Perceptive Deception were a plus point, I think they were also what suckered a lot of critics into writing the band off as just being yet another Dutch band treading the same ground as the other bands around at the time.

Whereas with 'Stagnated Existence', there's still songs on there with the infectious (sp?) catchiness and groove we all love from the Dutch yet at the same time ratcheting up the technicality - without upping sticks and jumpnig into the 'TechDeath' camp - and in my eyes showing their critics more of what they as musicians are capable and proving wrong all those ones that slagged them off in the past.

I like both albums almost equally, but likewise I see 'Stagnated...' as a manifestation of the bands' natural progression and evolution into a leaner, meaner, killer.

I'm rambling again now anyway. To summise, yes the relative simplicity (in comparison to the second album - on it's own I'd still not say it's extremely simple) of 'Perceptive Deception' was part of the appeal but at the same time it didn't really showcase all of that which Disavowed can bring to the proverbial table.

EDIT: just realised people were talking more about the vocals than the riffs, but fuck it.

[foreign10]

the more I listen to Disavowed the more I realize how original their sound is. it's just the way they write their riffs that make them so recognizable.

Robbe, do you ever take part in writing any of the music? or is that up to the other guys?

[Robbe K]

Ha Ha! Thanx!

Daniel and Gerben write all the songs, but we all contribute! I am more responsible for artwork related shisl, production, video shisl and the lyrics of course!

Thanx!

[foreign10]

ah ok...thanks for that information!

[Surt]

Robbe-izzle to the mofo Kizzay!

[Robbe K]

Ha Ha!!! Surt-a rizzle-for-tha-myspace-shissl!

[Surt]

word.

[Jack de rimmer]

Exel

[Vriend]

No, man! It is cool to read different opinions!
I thought more people would prefer the vocals of "Perceptive" over "Stagnated", but overall, it is the other way around.
Percepted had a more sick style which I enjoy. Butthe vocals on Stagnated are also good.
I prefer Perceptive over Stagnated personally.

The weird and twisted side of Disavowed is Arsebreed..hehehe

Thanx bro!
More weird and twisted side? I thought you were twisted already. The recordingvideo on the album says it all :emot-LOL:

[Robbe K]

Ha Ha!

[foreign10]

haha

The Making of Stagnated Exsistance: the Robbe K you DIDN'T want to know
:emot-LOL:

[Vriend]

haha

The Making of Stagnated Exsistance: the Robbe K you DIDN'T want to know
:emot-LOL:
I wouldn't say that, I meant it in a positive way ofcourse. It's a side we all knew, so it's no secrete now is it?

[foreign10]

yeah I was just joking

[Surt]

there's only two 'e's in secret, Vriend.

unless you're trying to say that people who withold information leak substances?

[blooddrunk]

romain is the shit!!!!

[foreign10]

just out of curiosity, when Joel was part of Disavowed what songs did he write/help write?

[dizzadaen]

.. i thought it was "Rhizome", "Reason Rejected" and "Generative patterns", right Joey?...

[joeybreed]

.. i thought it was "Rhizome", "Reason Rejected" and "Generative patterns", right Joey?...

Yeah, that's correct. of which Rhizome is still my favourite.

[Robbe K]

Word!
I think I prefer "Reason Rejected", but that's mainly cos I heard "Rhizome" too much!

How are you doing, Joey?
Ready, to kick some butt with Arsebreed again?

[joeybreed]

Word!
I think I prefer "Reason Rejected", but that's mainly cos I heard "Rhizome" too much!

How are you doing, Joey?
Ready, to kick some butt with Arsebreed again?

Im fine thanks, how are you sir?
Isn't it weird to be in a band whilst we haven't seen eachother since...since Disavowed played the Effenaar in March/April?

Anyway, yea ready as ever, just gimme 5 min and a piece of paper and I'm done ;)

[foreign10]

thanks for the answers guys! and I can't wait for new Arsebreed!

[Robbe K]

Im fine thanks, how are you sir?
Isn't it weird to be in a band whilst we haven't seen eachother since...since Disavowed played the Effenaar in March/April?

Anyway, yea ready as ever, just gimme 5 min and a piece of paper and I'm done ;)

That is really weird! Ha Ha!
I am fine, although my life got twisted up side down :-) It's the best thing! Janne rules!

Me too, although, I need 10 min. :-)

[Transient]

i love the breakdown in rhizome. everytime i hear it i think of that video of robbe in the rehearsal video. that epitomizes disavowed

[Robbe K]

On which video?

[foreign10]

wait...do you mean the video for the song or some other video that I haven't seen?

[chokeslam]

That is really weird! Ha Ha!
I am fine, although my life got twisted up side down :-) It's the best thing! Janne rules!

Me too, although, I need 10 min. :-)

why not add a 3rd vocalst? I only need 5 min. too:cool: :emot-LOL:

[Transient]

On which video?
romain's debut

[Surt]

i saw Romain on his first ever UK date if that counts as anything remotely special?






















please?

[Robbe K]

Yes!!!!

[foreign10]

I'm actually starting to like this album a lot more. "The Infinite Multiplicity" is a Disavowed classic!!!

[Robbe K]

See: It needs to grow on you! Wait and see!

[foreign10]

it was like that for me with Perceptive Deception too. I really didn't like it at first, but after listening A LOT the catchy-ness of the riffs just hit me like a train!!!

[Transient]

1 23 1 232 3
rhizome

[foreign10]

what?

[Transient]

lol

[foreign10]

please?

[Robbe K]

It's the "Break-down" riff in Rhizome!

Hunk hunk hunk hunk-hunk-hunk hunk-hunk etc.

[foreign10]

hahaha ok. yeah that's a killer!!!

[Surt]

CONDENSED CONDITIONS with the breakdown for the win fo shizzle.

although Treason does come close for me.

if i listen to 'Biased Existence' horrific visions of Bob's face flash into my mind and leave me liable to wake up in a cold sweat if I listen to it before bedtime.

[Transient]

It's the "Break-down" riff in Rhizome!

Hunk hunk hunk hunk-hunk-hunk hunk-hunk etc.

hahahah you got it! you must have played a guitar at some point

[foreign10]

well I could've understood it if it was written with words and not numbers. mr. music theory.

[Robbe K]

Ha Ha!

I do play a bit of guitar, but that totally sucks!

[foreign10]

well I got a good idea of what you meant. it's hard to play "sing that riff and guess the song" through the internet anyway :emot-LOL:

[Transient]

i think i had it wrong

1 23 1 23 1 0

i dont know, i dont have a guitar on me right now!

[berserkax82]

all disavowed owns...the new one is so pissed i can't even take it...win

[Robbe K]

hehe

[ResetInput]

Come to Slovenia again you wankers.

[deathmetaljunkie]

This album is a huge win, I love evrything about it.

[Cloaca]

This album > my car stereo

[Robbe K]

GREAT!!!

[foreign10]

I'm glad to say that I'm warming up to this album a little more now. I played it last night...and I hadn't listened to any song off of it for....I'd say about a month or two now. it's still got the original Disavowed riffs, but just with a little more variation and new ideas.

[foreign10]

oh and please on the next album NO SOLOS! to me, Disavowed is all about the killer Disavowed-styled riffs!!! solos would just throw it all off for me...unless they were well done and unique...which I'm sure Daan is capable of.

[Vriend]

oh and please on the next album NO SOLOS! to me, Disavowed is all about the killer Disavowed-styled riffs!!!

[foreign10]

"your faith has misguided youuuuu"

"Eventually, a perfect God
Would end its creation,
because perfection
assumes a state of stagnation"

pretty deep! how do you come up with these lyrics Robbe? seems like something you'd have to take some time (like a day or two) brainstorming about!

[Robbe K]

Sorry, didn't visit the forum for awhile!

but:
I am back!

Thanx! It takes me some time to finish all the lyrics, as I am not a very good writer.

At a certain point I was obsessed with "perfection" and I tried to combine it with the concept of a perfect God (as all relegions say so)

[foreign10]

as I am not a very good writer.
come on! don't be so modest! :emot-LOL:

[Vriend]

Thanx! It takes me some time to finish all the lyrics, as I am not a very good writer.

Who do you see as a good song writer?
Wat zijn jouw criteria voor een goede tekst schrijver dan? Welke elementen heeft die? (Wist niet goed hoe je het in het Engels moest zeggen)

[foreign10]

favorite song currently from this album "Stagnated"

[obskuredeath]

all I have to say is I love this album from start to finish.... Disavowed will own the MDF

[VINCENT DEATHCULT]

yesterday and today I had listen this cd for more time!!! Awesome riffs, and complicate blast beat

[Stephallus]

HOSSA! After listening to the album for 6 months, it still gets better !

[foreign10]

even though I still like the first album the best, this album is a fucking assault from start to finish! riffs all over the fucking place!

[kronoscts]

i liked the new album but perceptive deception is better imo

keep putting new stuff out though!

[Robbe K]

Who do you see as a good song writer?
Wat zijn jouw criteria voor een goede tekst schrijver dan? Welke elementen heeft die? (Wist niet goed hoe je het in het Engels moest zeggen)

OOPS, totally didn't read this post! Ooops!

Question from Vriend is: What do you think makes a good textwriter?
A good textwriter in music to me is somebody who can:
1. write constructive lyrics, whatever topic he is writing on
2. convert these lyrics into compact vocalspatterns
3. make these vocalspatterns connect to the music

I don't think am a real good textwriter in this sense

[Cloaca]

Still listening to this quite a bit about a year onwards.

[Robbe K]

Great!

[chokeslam]

listening to the album again.:emot-boun

[chokeslam]

dogmatic conceit still kicks my ass!