A Small Question [Archive]

Lazzari

03-20-2007, 06:35 PM

Hey, im from Venezuela, you guys make really cool music i love it ! Those Brain crushing rythms and fast solos ! And the vocals are perfect !
I was just wondering, what pedal of distortion, you guys would recommend me?
Im looking for a Boss metal zone, Line 6 uber metal, etc.
I play brutal death metal (Think Of Braindrill, Origin, Guttural Secrete)
Thanks !
P.S: Sorry for my english !

ruonitb

03-20-2007, 06:53 PM

what amp are you using?

Lazzari

03-20-2007, 07:17 PM

A Randall RG100SC G2 Series, not tube, but i like it

Metastasis

03-20-2007, 10:40 PM

We use Mesa/Boogies Triple Rectifiers and rackmounted compression/Maximization, but you can squeeze tone out of Line 6 or various other solid state set ups if you invest a lot of time in knob twiddlin. If you want Origin kind of sound, I would recommend a tube amp, I know Paul Ryan and he uses a dedicated tube preamp and poweramp. I find tubes have more headroom and allow for more "crankability".

tenorbass

03-20-2007, 11:04 PM

Metastasis could you post a bass, mid, treble setting that you guys use for dis.

Metastasis

03-21-2007, 02:39 AM

Metastasis could you post a bass, mid, treble setting that you guys use for dis.

Honestly, I used a more intuitive approach with the Rectifier. I don't remember the actual settings...I forgot that we also used a Boss compressor/sustainer pedal for more gain. I turned down the gain on the Rectifier and relied more on the gain on the pedal to drive the tone. That's pretty crucial for getting a cleaner, sharper distortion.

As far as frequencies, though, bass was all the way down. The bass guitar should fill in the low end frequencies, not guitar. Mid was probably nine to ten o'clock, while highs were more noon to one-ish. Of course, I did run the guitar tracks through some processing like waves Eq. and I'll be fucked to remember those exact settings...they weren't that crucial (mostly to cut boominess and/or shrillness).

Lazzari

03-24-2007, 08:39 AM

Well then i should get a tube amp =P but its hard lol ! Im from venezuela and here those amps are reeeaaallly expensive !

Metastasis

03-24-2007, 03:00 PM

Well then i should get a tube amp =P but its hard lol ! Im from venezuela and here those amps are reeeaaallly expensive !

Yeah, tubes are usually really expensive. You could get some pretty good tone out of a Line 6 Pod Pro (rackmounted) which will cost you a lot less. But I feel like tubes are the best.

Lazzari

03-24-2007, 05:59 PM

maybe a tube amp and no distortion pedals? cause theres a peavey, a valve king thats " cheap " but i havent used it before

Metastasis

03-24-2007, 06:05 PM

Well, yeah the distortion comes from tube amp itself. If you are looking into something cheaper, make sure you try it out first and see if you can get the kind of tone you want. The thing about tubes is that they are usually harder to dial in than most pedals...you might need compression and eq. But definitely try gear before making a purchase.

Lazzari

03-24-2007, 06:08 PM

Yeah, i have to wait, till june or july, im going to San Francisco with my brother... Hey dude another question, ( Sorry for bothering you ) can you tell me a nice 6 string guitar ? I need a guitar that can give me that nice crunch you guys have ! oh and the super thin neck !

Metastasis

03-26-2007, 01:14 AM

I use a schecter diamond series 6 string. Although a good Ibanez (no floyd rose, though!) or a jackson can also get some good tone.

Lazzari

03-26-2007, 07:15 PM

Do you hate the floyd rose??

Metastasis

03-26-2007, 11:16 PM

Yes, I do. There are good models out there, but the ibanez floyd rose is cheaply made and goes out of tune a lot...it's generally been a head ache in my experience.

Lazzari

03-28-2007, 07:06 PM

How about a schecter hellraiser??

Metastasis

03-29-2007, 01:54 AM

I'm not familiar with a hellraiser...you got a link? BTW, where's Max when you need him? He would know more than me when it comes to guitar talk. I'm more of a recording gear slut.

Lazzari

03-29-2007, 04:39 PM

MARKILLS

03-29-2007, 04:41 PM

Yes, I do. There are good models out there, but the ibanez floyd rose is cheaply made and goes out of tune a lot...it's generally been a head ache in my experience.
I agree, fixed bridges are better.

Lazzari

03-29-2007, 04:52 PM

Hey what about B.C rich guitars? Ive been told that the wood in their guitar suck (Nato) But im not sure thou

Metastasis

03-29-2007, 07:18 PM

hahaha, here's the link to the hellraiser: 6 string: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Schecter-C1-Hellraiser-Electric-Guitar?sku=513105
And 7 string for you guys =P: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Schecter-Hellraiser-C7-Electric-Guitar?sku=513109
Well maybe you can help me with recording gear since im going to start recording a demo soon !

The schecter 7 string sounds fat. Nate bought one, but he returned it because he thought the neck was too thick.

Hey what about B.C rich guitars? Ive been told that the wood in their guitar suck (Nato) But im not sure thou

I've never played a B.C. Rich that I liked. They mostly just look cool (I guess). Although, I think Pat (forgetting his last name) from Cannibal Corpse uses a B.C. Rich seven string, and it sounds awesome.

ruonitb

03-30-2007, 02:59 PM

Pat O Brien is using BC Rich guitars only as far as I know...he got custom ones tho. :)

Lazzari

03-30-2007, 08:43 PM

Yeah he uses custom guitars.. So is there another guitar in the market that you guys could recommend me?

tenorbass

03-30-2007, 09:18 PM

Ibanez RG7321 I got one about 3 weeks ago. Its a dream and a half. With some new pickups it will KILL!

MARKILLS

03-30-2007, 09:19 PM

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Lazzari

03-30-2007, 09:27 PM

I actually need a 6 string thou

Metastasis

03-31-2007, 05:23 PM

Schecter 006 elite is what I have...it comes with duncans that sound pretty good. A good, fixed bridge Ibanez would be good, too. Like the RG321: http://www.ibanez.com/eg/guitar.aspx?m=RG321MH

Lazzari

04-01-2007, 05:43 PM

What about the Ibanez RGTHRG2, http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBARGTHRG2 , i checked that 006 elite looks nice, what can you tell me about the schecter

Metastasis

04-02-2007, 02:09 AM

Oh shit, that Giger guitar looks awesome (except for the trem!)!

The schecter I have is pretty sweet, I can get some pretty fat tone out of it and works well with thick gauge, detuned strings.

Lazzari

04-03-2007, 03:13 PM

Hey you guys use any type of effects when you are playing live ??

Metastasis

04-03-2007, 08:49 PM

Well, we are currently working on that right now. The guitars will probably be pretty straight forward, just a distorted rhythm channel and a clean channel, and both plus a solo channel with a reverb unit for Max.

As far as samples and loops go, I'm working on playing to a click track so that we can play it through a venue's loudspeakers. Either that, or using a MIDI controller and playing them manually.