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jwv2
07-21-2006, 06:14 PM
Going to two shows on this month's slayer tour it was amazing to see the thousands of fans that showed up. Thousands, they sould out the Meadowlands in NJ. It would be cool if they had some death metal bands that are actually fans and infulenced by them as openers instead of all these nu-metal clowns. Brutal bands like Cryptopsy get 100 people only at a show, and I'd bet if more kids today heard the heavier bands, they'd attract a bigger following.

Azathoth
07-22-2006, 02:33 AM
It would be cool, but from what I remember the members of Slayer(Kerry King in particular) don't like DM. I think he's even ridiculed it on occassion.

LifeDepraved
07-26-2006, 03:49 AM
What nu-metal bands opened for Slayer? Since when is Lamb Of God, Bodom, Mastodon or Thine Eyes Bleed, nu metal?

I give up on mankind...

Azathoth
07-26-2006, 08:49 AM
They've had crap like Chimara, American Head Charge and Soulfly open for them.
Do some research before ignorantly slagging someone off.

Keyser
07-26-2006, 09:59 AM
Actually Chimaira isn't nu-metal at all, in their early years maybe but now they play modern thrash and they kick more asses than a lot of death metal bands!

Azathoth
07-26-2006, 10:29 AM
Chimara toured with Slayer in 2001. When they were a nu-metal act.

Keyser
07-26-2006, 10:56 AM
Yes but even at that time, Chimaira was more interesting than the average nu-metal band imo. Anyway, Slayer will never take on tour death metal acts cause they just don't like death metal. Kerry is a big fan of Chimaira and other "modern" bands. Slipknot for instance was a big influence for him on God Hates Us All. So Slayer touring with such bands is no surprise.

Extremis Invictus
07-26-2006, 11:43 AM
Well Seriously, most Death Metal bands don't like Slayer, cause they suck.

The reason they appealed to so many death metal bands back in the day, is because they helped contribute to the foundations of Death Metal.... in 1986.

But Slayer only had one decent album, if everyone had known that Slayer was the biggest joke on the planet in the earlier stages, we wouldn't even have to deal with their shhit now. I mean c'mon!!
"I'm going to yell, the very same way, I always have but with crappier music!
GOD HATES US ALL!!! GOD HATES US ALL!!!"

And I mean C'mon, Tom Araya even has been quoted as saying "God doesn't hate, he loves us all, it's just a cool album title."

And I'm sorry, just because Kerry King may hate organized religion, but Tom being catholic, just makes all his god bashing kinda... flat.

And anyways, nu-metal being "modern metal"??! Someone needs to be shot for that one.. By the way, Chimaira started as nu-metal and evolved into a Killswitch Engage Clone. BIG DEAL. There isn't a SINGLE riff they have I can't find in another "New-American Metal" (Lamb of God, Killswitch) or nu-american metal (Slayer, Fear Factory, Korn), it's all the same.

Just because Chimaira managed to scoop one of the most innovative drummers in death metal, and made him play the slowest blasts/weakest drumming of Kevin Talley's career, doesn't give any more "Legitimacy" to chimaira, in fact it makes them TALENT BUTCHERS. Thats right. Chimaira was far too shit and Killswitchy to deserve Kevin Talley, I'm sooo glad they got their nu-metal drummer back.

I've thought Slayer sold out since they released South of Heaven, so everytime I see something that confirms my almost 20 year old opinion of slayer (Kerry King in a SUM 41 video, Corey Taylor giving Kerry an handjob before the show) it makes me laugh everythime they have an opinion on someone else.

I hope i never see Slayer on tour with Death Metal bands, I would never wish slayer on any death metal band, even the death metal bands that i think are shit like Morbid Angel and Vader (well ok, maybe Morbid angel, they are practically the same level of shit). They are the same shit nu-metal music as the bands they play with and practically always have been. So I hope Slayer always plays on nu-metal shows, that way I'll never have to see them or their worst stage performance on earth. (which could be a description of any one of their shows.)

Ooooh Slayer is one of the most covered bands ever... That's becuase their songs from a guitarists persective are ridiculously easy to play, and you can learn one in 1/2 and hour. I love to read about KK dissing DM bands too. Cause it's funny seeing him, the most ridiculous figure in what gets passed as metal today, ridiculing artists 1000 times better musicians than he is.

Or maybe he's too busy being blinded by the technical prowess of his buddy the SUM 41 guitarist who's getting married to Avril Lavigne.

Kerry king - Sum 41 - Avril Lavigne it doesn't even take 6 degrees of seperation to link Slayer not only to Nu-metal, but Britney Spears style pop idols.

Kerry King, or any band I've mentioned here, Killswitch, Chimaira.. they should just stop pretending to have credibility, and people should stop encouraging them, to think they are real metal at all.

EDIT: For those who don't know what SUM 41 is, they are a pop-punk band in the vein of Blink 182, greed day, or Moron 5.

Extremis Invictus
07-26-2006, 12:05 PM
What nu-metal bands opened for Slayer? Since when is Lamb Of God, Bodom, Mastodon or Thine Eyes Bleed, nu metal?

I give up on mankind...

And as for you my highly uneducated friend: HERE is a list of all the various nu-metal bands Slayer had performed with on tours, or various festivals like Tattoo the Earth, Ozzfest, and such:

Sevendust, Coal Chamber, Korn, Slipknot, Evanescence, Linkin Park, Deftones, hed p.e, Soulfly, Primer 55, StainD, Cold, Drowning Pool, System of a Down, 40 Below Summer, Static-X, Taproot, Spineshank, Slaves on Dope, Disturbed, and Kittie.

So yes you fucking faggot, there has BEEN shitloads of nu-metal bands they;'ve played with, lets see you try to say "oh how are those bands nu-metal??" Shithead.

And since when is Lamb of God nu-metal?? since they brought out Redneck.
Now they sound like a weak pantera clone, and Pantera was all about nu-metal bands too remember?

Chopped In Half
07-26-2006, 05:06 PM
.. so, to your question , hmmm , no .

Death metal should not be associated with Slayer, Iron Maiden , Metallica or any other heavy speed thrash metal..

It has to stay underground, trust me !

Azathoth
07-26-2006, 05:11 PM
Well Seriously, most Death Metal bands don't like Slayer, cause they suck.

Really? Never read much of any hate for Slayer from DM bands(at least their classic era material). Possibly because you're pulling this one out of your ass?

The reason they appealed to so many death metal bands back in the day, is because they helped contribute to the foundations of Death Metal....1986

Hence one of the reasons they're considered so highly.


They are the same shit nu-metal music as the bands they play with and practically always have been.

More complete BS. This really isn't even worth a response.

Ooooh Slayer is one of the most covered bands ever... That's becuase their songs from a guitarists persective are ridiculously easy to play, and you can learn one in 1/2 and hour.

Slayer is one of the most covered bands ever because they're one of the most INFLUENTIAL bands ever(metalwise).

I really hope you're more intelligent the complete nonsense you just wrote.

Azathoth
07-26-2006, 05:13 PM
.. so, to your question , hmmm , no .

Death metal should not be associated with Slayer, Iron Maiden , Metallica or any other heavy speed thrash metal..

It has to stay underground, trust me !

Death metal should be associated with Slayer because they were one of the biggest influences on the genre. Regardless of what crap the churn out now. We don't need historical revisionism in metal.

Edit: I think I misread the context of your message. If you meant to say they shouldn't be associated with touring with Slayer nowadays then yes, I agree.

Brutalist
07-26-2006, 05:15 PM
Slayer should also write 'Reign in Blood pt.2', but it ain't gonna happen so who gives a fuck. If you think Slayer even listen to death metal you're deluded, they just have bands from Kerrang! support them because it sells more tickets, and ultimately sells more records to the fuckwits who listen to these flavour of the month bands. Fuck Slayer.

Chopped In Half
07-26-2006, 05:49 PM
It would be cool, but from what I remember the members of Slayer(Kerry King in particular) don't like DM. I think he's even ridiculed it on occassion.

Its just stupid and arrogant from him . But i wonder why ?

Reincremation
07-26-2006, 05:51 PM
But Slayer only had one decent album


Show No Mercy, Hell Awaits, and Reign in Blood are all great. other than that, i agree with you.

tck!
07-26-2006, 09:46 PM
Slayer is simply not good.

One good riff does not make a band.

Reincremation
07-27-2006, 08:47 AM
Slayer is simply not good.

One good riff does not make a band.



sorry they offended you.

Extremis Invictus
07-27-2006, 11:55 AM
Really? Never read much of any hate for Slayer from DM bands(at least their classic era material). Possibly because you're pulling this one out of your ass?.

Nope not pulling it out of my ass. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. Despite this being probably the dumbest/most ignorant statement I've read in days, I think it more than ignorant, but plain stupid, to assume that because YOU and ALL your friends can sit though albums and albums of Slayer music where 1. TOM ARAYA'S VOICE SOUNDS EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME EVERY ALBUM, 2. THEY GET PROGRESSIVELY WORSE EVERY ALBUM AND that just because they can still fill up crowds passing the torch to nu-metal fans, that many Death Metal bands have respect for Slayer.

And futhermore, I was speaking from my personal experience with the death Metal bands, IN MY OWN OTTAWA SCENE (just more proof this guy is a fucking retard), just because I say Death Metal bands fucking think slayer suck I MUST be talking about Cannibal Corpse, or Suffocation right? Cause local bands who aren't huge, and aren't influenced by Slayer don't HAVE opinions right?? This guy has got to be american...



Hence one of the reasons they're considered so highly.

Big Deal. A LOT of bands attributed to Death Metal being created and Slayer always sounds the same but less creative every album. Slayer gets very annoying very quickly.

Azathoth
07-27-2006, 01:27 PM
Nope not pulling it out of my ass. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. Despite this being probably the dumbest/most ignorant statement I've read in days, I think it more than ignorant, but plain stupid, to assume that because YOU and ALL your friends can sit though albums and albums of Slayer music where 1. TOM ARAYA'S VOICE SOUNDS EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME EVERY ALBUM, 2. THEY GET PROGRESSIVELY WORSE EVERY ALBUM AND that just because they can still fill up crowds passing the torch to nu-metal fans, that many Death Metal bands have respect for Slayer.

MANY death metal bands have/had respect for Slayer. They are one of the biggest influences on the death(and black) metal genre. Are you a fucking imbecile?
And the fact that NOWADAYS they have nu-metal bands open for them does not lessen that fact.

And futhermore, I was speaking from my personal experience with the death Metal bands, IN MY OWN OTTAWA SCENE

Yes, because we all know your Ottawa scene is the be all end all of death metal. :rolleyes:

Cause local bands who aren't huge, and aren't influenced by Slayer don't HAVE opinions right?? This guy has got to be american...

What does being an American have to do with anything? Don't have any legitimate arguments so you have to pull the American thing?

Big Deal. A LOT of bands attributed to Death Metal being created and Slayer always sounds the same but less creative every album. Slayer gets very annoying very quickly.

The point is Slayer was one of the most influential bands to death metal. Like it or not it's the truth.

Jesus fucking Christ this guy is stupid. Come up with some actual counter points next time or just don't even post a response.

m138jewski
07-27-2006, 02:31 PM
If you don't like Slayer, you should fucken die

Extremis Invictus
07-27-2006, 05:21 PM
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SERIOUSLY people have to stop saying I said things I didn't say and read what I do say. I NEVER said anything bad about Mainstream music, I just said Slayer is a contradicting, uninspired, lazy band, that just gets lazier as they get older. And don't even get me fucking started on Chimaira, fucking drum talent butchering, killswitch ripping, trend hopping fags... (and killswitch are pretty lame too)

Mainstream music can be very talented and very metal, just look at Dragonforce. They may not be as popular as Slayer, but they are as (if not more) mainstream, and 1000 times more talented and way less annoying than Slayer.

Sure, I mainly listen to death metal, and brutal Death, but I never said people had to stop listening to Slayer, I never even said my opinion should influence whether people as to liking/not liking Slayer.

I just said Slayer suck. 1987-now they sucked. NOT mainstream music. BORING mainstream music sucks. And so does Nu-metal, and new slayer, six feet under, Dismember, Entombed, Morbid Angel, Megadeth, Motley Crue, AC~DC, and anything else that ever got popular trading ability and effort, into lazy ctachy songs people who are tone-deaf can try to hum along to with little difficulty. Ya ya people like it, otherwise their labels would drop them. But a LOT of people listen to shitty music, that's how the rock, punk, and pop genres survive, while you NEVER see a shred of anything in the mainstream about true genres of music like Extreme Metal, Blues, and jazz. (And NO Thrash Metal, is generally not extreme metal IMO)

Negronic One
07-27-2006, 06:08 PM
Kerry King is an acrymonous little prick. Fuck Slayer!!! Suffocation and Cryptopsy rule.

Extremis Invictus
07-27-2006, 06:13 PM
Kerry King is an acrymonous little prick. Fuck Slayer!!! Suffocation and Cryptopsy rule.

I saw Cryptopsy and Suffocation at a co-headlining show last November, with Aborted, it pretty was sick.

Extremis Invictus
07-27-2006, 06:59 PM
MANY death metal bands have/had respect for Slayer. They are one of the biggest influences on the death(and black) metal genre. Are you a fucking imbecile?
And the fact that NOWADAYS they have nu-metal bands open for them does not lessen that fact.



Yes, because we all know your Ottawa scene is the be all end all of death metal. :rolleyes:



What does being an American have to do with anything? Don't have any legitimate arguments so you have to pull the American thing?



The point is Slayer was one of the most influential bands to death metal. Like it or not it's the truth.


Jesus fucking Christ this guy is stupid. Come up with some actual counter points next time or just don't even post a response.


Slayer has been covered by lots of bands, but you are really fucking stupid if you think that we wouldn't have the exact same death and black metal that we have right now, if Slayer hadn't existed.

God Hates us all and Reign in Blood are not that different, Not like the difference between Emeth's albums, and God Hates Us All is definately a nu-metal/thrash record.



You want counter points here you go you fucking downed pissant: 1. TOM ARAYA'S VOICE SOUNDS EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME EVERY ALBUM, 2. THEY GET PROGRESSIVELY WORSE EVERY ALBUM oh wait I already posted that in the post where you said i needed to make points. I think those are more than enough points to assume that it's possible that people don't share your high and righteous opinion of Slayer. Just because you liked them until the last moment where they had to write "crappy nu-metal" on their heads for you to see it, even though this is obviously exceptionally beyond your comprehension, some of us bailed on slayer WAY before that. Slayer has weak riffing, solos that never really sounded like they were never written specifically for the songs they're played in, and the MOST FUCKING BORING DRUMMING.



There's just soooo many reasons why Slayer is gay and I've listed 50 more reasons than i need to in this thread alone as to why I feel that you assuming Slayer is soo important next to all the poppy nu-thrash bands and boy-bands on your wall, may not be everyone else's opinion.

And you calling me a fucking retard for thinking Slayer was never good got me started into this. Oooohhh big deal, you listened to a lot of Crappy music, and now that you've jumped on the 'Slayer sucks since...' bandwagon, and because you've read a lot of bands referenced Slayer, you assume it's not even possible that there isn't any death metal that exists that Slayer didn't help create.



And that style of blantent, unbridled self-righteous, bigoted, ignorance, is the factor I was identifying as an American trait. So yes to answer your painfully obvious question, everytime I see extreme cases unbridled self-righteous, bigoted, ignorance.. I think of Americans. Maybe it's because you prove it as a nation day in and day out, and have to always make sure the whole world is watching you all the time (hey, hey look at me, look at me).

You wanna know another American trait? Reading an entire post of points made that conflict with your views, and as soon as you read the veryy last point insulting your 'patriotism' all of a sudden, there is nothing else, and there were no points at all. After all how could any point made seem relevant when America is threatened?? Always gonna be on the watch for new forms of Terror, (and by terror.., i mean everything that makes americans uncomfotable from gay marrige, to not fluidly imposing their 'democracy' upon their world, to the thoughts they may not be the end all-be all of all worldly influence) Hell, you can just digress it all in a hope that you can gut my arguements by just saying "hey he insulted Americans, he now has no points, make some points next time" Translation: "Dumb your points down so i can get it" Well I'll try my VERY best to put it in layman's terms next time so you get it.. :chainsaw:


BELIEVE IT OR NOT. Despite this being probably the dumbest/most ignorant statement I've read in days, I think it more than ignorant, but plain stupid, to assume that because YOU and ALL your friends can sit though albums and albums of Slayer music that many Death Metal bands have respect for Slayer.





Yes, because we all know your Ottawa scene is the be all end all of death metal.



And by the way, being as the Ottawa scene is the scene my death metal band plays in and the bands I've done shows with also from Ottawa, as far as what affects me, none of the Death Metal dude's I know worship Slayer. and I guess that's just lucky for me. But unlike YOU who's saying your american band matters to everyone on some deep touchy feely level, I'm not saying my Ottawa scene is. So AZAMALLGOTH, Stop taking MY POINTS, applying them to YOUR arguements, and then turning around telling ME I have no points. I say Slayer is not the most important or influential thing in Metal, and you tell me my Ottawa scene is not the most influential...
Incredible job man... maybe if I was claiming about my scene what you were claiming about Slayer, .. that theft and re-application of my point might have been remotely relevant, but as it stands, way to go.



Just because you only read what you want to, doesn't mean you actually know WHAT THE FUCK you're talking about vehemently defending the crap that is Slayer.


And how's about you make a fucking point, jackshit! I think you thinking Slayer is the groundbreaking foundation and most important influenctial band of not only Death Metal but black metal is fucking hilarious. Just because Slayer influenced lots of bands doesn't mean I have to think slayer isn't shit, or that now I have to be influenced by them.
If everyone was soo goddamn influenced by Slayer, why do none of these death metal bands make their songs as boring as Slayer? or make their own band's vocals as whiny and annoying?

They don't. Because there are more elements of Slayer that are crap, than elements that make it memorable. Just because they influenced bands I like, or influenced bands that influence me, you will NEVER be able to convice me that Death Metal wouldn't have just been heavier without lame generic Slayer.



Not that it matters what you think about it, but I do really enjoy listening to Reign in blood, I own it and listen to it driving all the time. But in my world, there was only one good Slayer album I N M Y O P I N I O N, and I own it thanks. And I don't regard it as anything more than a good ol' CD, that's good to drive to, not a force to be worshipped..





If you don't like Slayer, you should fucken die

Well it's unfortunate someone in Devourment wants me to die for this, I actually own all 3 Devourment releases, and they happen to be one of my favorite brutal-slam bands, them and Abominable Putridity, but whatever, I'm not going to change the way I feel about hating Slayer, just because some artist that that I listen to, likes them and thinks I should die for my opinion.
:kngt:

Azathoth
07-27-2006, 07:41 PM
God damn you're one of the stupidest people I've ever come across.


Slayer has been covered by lots of bands, but you are really fucking stupid if you think that we wouldn't have the exact same death and black metal that we have right now, if Slayer hadn't existed.

Taking into account the fact that nearly all early death metal(ie the death metal that actually matters) was influenced by Slayer I'd say that it would not be exactly the same without Slayer.


God Hates us all and Reign in Blood are not that different, Not like the difference between Emeth's albums, and God Hates Us All is definately a nu-metal/thrash record.

This post is so stupid it's not worth a response.



You want counter points here you go you fucking downed pissant: 1. TOM ARAYA'S VOICE SOUNDS EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME EVERY ALBUM, 2. THEY GET PROGRESSIVELY WORSE EVERY ALBUM oh wait I already posted that in the post where you said i needed to make points. I think those are more than enough points to assume that it's possible that people don't share your high and righteous opinion of Slayer. Just because you liked them until the last moment where they had to write "crappy nu-metal" on their heads for you to see it, even though this is obviously exceptionally beyond your comprehension, some of us bailed on slayer WAY before that. Slayer has weak riffing, solos that never really sounded like they were never written specifically for the songs they're played in, and the MOST FUCKING BORING DRUMMING.

Counter points? Those aren't any counter points to ANYTHING I've said. Like it or not, besides maybe Black Sabbath, Slayer are pretty much the most influential metal band of all time. Reading comprehension. Learn it.



There's just soooo many reasons why Slayer is gay and I've listed 50 more reasons than i need to in this thread alone as to why I feel that you assuming Slayer is soo important next to all the poppy nu-thrash bands and boy-bands on your wall, may not be everyone else's opinion.

The fact is Slayer IS important.


And you calling me a fucking retard for thinking Slayer was never good got me started into this. Oooohhh big deal, you listened to a lot of Crappy music, and now that you've jumped on the 'Slayer sucks since...' bandwagon, and because you've read a lot of bands referenced Slayer, you assume it's not even possible that there isn't any death metal that exists that Slayer didn't help create.

I never called you a retard for thinking Slayer was never good. I call you a retard for denying their influence. And I never said that every band was influenced by Slayer. A great majority were. Again, learn to fucking read.



And that style of blantent, unbridled self-righteous, bigoted, ignorance, is the factor I was identifying as an American trait. So yes to answer your painfully obvious question, everytime I see extreme cases unbridled self-righteous, bigoted, ignorance.. I think of Americans. Maybe it's because you prove it as a nation day in and day out, and have to always make sure the whole world is watching you all the time (hey, hey look at me, look at me).

You wanna know another American trait? Reading an entire post of points made that conflict with your views, and as soon as you read the veryy last point insulting your 'patriotism' all of a sudden, there is nothing else, and there were no points at all. After all how could any point made seem relevant when America is threatened?? Always gonna be on the watch for new forms of Terror, (and by terror.., i mean everything that makes americans uncomfotable from gay marrige, to not fluidly imposing their 'democracy' upon their world, to the thoughts they may not be the end all-be all of all worldly influence) Hell, you can just digress it all in a hope that you can gut my arguements by just saying "hey he insulted Americans, he now has no points, make some points next time" Translation: "Dumb your points down so i can get it" Well I'll try my VERY best to put it in layman's terms next time so you get it.. :chainsaw:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh man what bullshit. Just because I made a comment about your off the cuff remark about what you perceive as "American" now I'm a die hard patriot? Jump to conclusions a little? And about American comment automatically invalidating your argument, you had no valid points before it, so it's pretty inconsequential.
Dumb your posts down? That would be an incredible feat if you could pull that off.

And by the way, being as the Ottawa scene is the scene my death metal band plays in and the bands I've done shows with also from Ottawa, as far as what affects me, none of the Death Metal dude's I know worship Slayer. and I guess that's just lucky for me. But unlike YOU who's saying your american band matters to everyone on some deep touchy feely level, I'm not saying my Ottawa scene is. So AZAMALLGOTH, Stop taking MY POINTS, applying them to YOUR arguements, and then turning around telling ME I have no points. I say Slayer is not the most important or influential thing in Metal, and you tell me my Ottawa scene is not the most influential...
Incredible job man... maybe if I was claiming about my scene what you were claiming about Slayer, .. that theft and re-application of my point might have been remotely relevant, but as it stands, way to go.

Slayer IS one of the most important and influential things in metal. Your Ottawa scene is not. Facts. I'm not saying there aren't good bands from Ottawa, but they have not affected or influenced metal in the way that other areas and bands have.



And how's about you make a fucking point, jackshit! I think you thinking Slayer is the groundbreaking foundation and most important influenctial band of not only Death Metal but black metal is fucking hilarious. Just because Slayer influenced lots of bands doesn't mean I have to think slayer isn't shit, or that now I have to be influenced by them.
If everyone was soo goddamn influenced by Slayer, why do none of these death metal bands make their songs as boring as Slayer? or make their own band's vocals as whiny and annoying?

Slayer is one of the most influential bands to black and death metal. Not too hilarious there, just true. Again, for the reading comprehension challenged, no one said you have to like Slayer or be influenced by them. The fact is a huge majority of the early death and black metal bands were influenced by Slayer. Facts not opinions.

Extremis Invictus
07-27-2006, 09:49 PM
Well all I cn say is that you keep saying the same things, and I think your basis of believing Slayer is so influential to Death Metal is blown out of proportion, but I'm not really trying to change the way you think, and you won't change the way I think.

Although comparing to bands that you can really hear the changes in sound actually has been dramatic over the years (Pyrexia, Emeth, Metallica, Sepultura) Slayer has NOT changed their sound as significantly as any of those bands, and if you disagree you're in denial. They yell the same way, they still triplet chug the same way, and they still sound like Slayer, they just 'modified' their sound with the times I suppose.

But I'll agree that many popular bands say hail Slayer. I never will but good for them. I don't think Slayer has the influence I'd be lead to believe exists, but I guess I agree to disagree.

I'm not apologizing for anything I've said, but I'm sure the posts people read on forums don't give them permanent trauma, so I'll just assume everyone will be alright. I see no reason to carry on a war of words any further, it's geting tiring to focus all this thought on Slayer, I don't even like them anyways.

Say what you want, just because I've got nothing else abrasive doesn't mean you don't have to, after all I ripped into you very good (and vice versa)

I at least appreciate that you took the time to focus on specific points, and try to disprove what I was saying rather than unintelligable garbage. Bravo.

I have a grudge against americans for very personal reasons, I have been told recently by canadian friends that I get too carried away in Anti-American ranting, even in semi-jest as on forums, espically since my beef is with a select group of americans... Unfotunately half of the bastards on my badlist, control decisions made on behalf of the american populace, and therefore inadvertantly brandish my own brand of ignorance by speaking against a group of people that has suffering innocents just like anywhere else.

Perhaps I've seen less than amicable qualities in most american people I've ever met, but I have met a lot of good people too. I suppose I should find less ignorant terms for things than "the american trait"

Again, I don't feel anyone should be so sensitive about written text, that they require an apology from me, but I can refrain from being delibrately ignorant in the future.


I want to put my end of this Slayer thing to rest. My opinons are clear and frankly inconsequential.

Azathoth
07-27-2006, 11:38 PM
Frankly I don't blame you about your low opinion of Americans. Most people here are braindead, McDonalds eating, reality TV watching carbon dioxide producers. There are exceptions, but from my experiences many people here fall into that description. I'm hoping to finally be able to get out of this country in a few years.

tck!
07-27-2006, 11:56 PM
sorry they offended you.
ya dude, i had trouble sleeping.

brutalized
07-28-2006, 01:26 PM
Slayer is very gay! They should have stopped with it when Dave left the first time.

Extremis Invictus
07-28-2006, 02:24 PM
They should have stopped with it when Dave left the first time.

I think everyone on both sides of the former Slayer dispute can agree on that.

Reincremation
07-28-2006, 04:58 PM
i keep my post Reign in Blood slayer albums in a pool of blood so that none of their rehash can affect me.

Azathoth
07-30-2006, 09:02 AM
I think everyone on both sides of the former Slayer dispute can agree on that.

Yeah pretty much.

Wakeness
07-31-2006, 01:22 PM
Chimeria isn't Nu-metal, IMO. They're Hardcore. Especially their old shit.

Slayer kills. Haunting the Chapel, Hell Awaits and Reign in Blood are all killer releases. The rest is so-so IMO.

Surt
07-31-2006, 04:56 PM
Slayer are far closer to nu-metal nowadays than they ever have been to death, so it shouldn't really surprise many people.

Hell, Kerry King's such an idiot, half the time he doesn't even recognise the support bands on his bill - ie, an example of when Terrorizer magazine was doing their 'hard of hearing' thing with him where a musician is played certain songs by similar bands to theirs and they have to guess/name who they are. He was being asked these questions backstage at the London show where Lamb Of God were currently onstage as their support band, and he still failed to recognise their music when played to him on a tape deck.

Surt
07-31-2006, 04:57 PM
i keep my post Reign in Blood slayer albums in a pool of blood so that none of their rehash can affect me.
here's a shockingly novel idea.... why not just get rid of the bastard things? ;)

Reincremation
08-01-2006, 08:37 AM
here's a shockingly novel idea.... why not just get rid of the bastard things? ;)


but...it's funnier to parody slayer lyrics...

Wakeness
08-01-2006, 05:24 PM
I don't know. I'll never get sick of those three albums I mentioned above. Classic Thrash. I love that shit.

Namaste
03-28-2007, 03:14 AM
Going to two shows on this month's slayer tour it was amazing to see the thousands of fans that showed up. Thousands, they sould out the Meadowlands in NJ. It would be cool if they had some death metal bands that are actually fans and infulenced by them as openers instead of all these nu-metal clowns. Brutal bands like Cryptopsy get 100 people only at a show, and I'd bet if more kids today heard the heavier bands, they'd attract a bigger following.

Then ask one the guys of Slayer to start a record label.