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Minihuse
10-27-2008, 02:31 PM
i'm just wondering how many of us on here have s series? it seems like everyone on here has one.

I have one, this ones mine its the S2170SE Ebony Swirl, quite nice but ive been havin a few problems with it myself.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/minihuse/IMG_5484.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/minihuse/IMG_5476.jpg

Pwnsauce
10-31-2008, 03:31 PM
sexy

what problems are you having with it?

Minihuse
11-01-2008, 01:32 PM
sexy

what problems are you having with it?

Nothing Major, just quite a bit of fret rattle giving me sustain issues n stuff as i get furthur up the neck. Mainly past the twelth fret. For the price it doesnt play half as well as my ESP, but i suppose that goes without saying. I mean my i got my S Prestige for 805 Quid, and it could sell for 1100 if i wanted to sell it on. And i got my ESP for 1100 so,
I dunno im not amazingly impressed with the tone n stuff, but i love playing it.
Thinkin of stickin EMGs in it

Incendius
11-05-2008, 10:34 PM
i dont think ive ever played an ESP that had problems

Minihuse
11-08-2008, 02:32 PM
i dont think ive ever played an ESP that had problems

Na theyre completely flawlessly made guitar. Mines the Horizon NT 2. I got the last one made in the UK, and you couldnt get another for like a year man

underrealm
11-08-2008, 03:53 PM
ESP guitars are tits. I've been considering buying an Eclipse, but my money keeps finding other uses.

I'm not as impressed with the LTD counterpart, but nonetheless, they are a great bang-for-the-buck guitar (400 series and up).

Minihuse
11-08-2008, 07:13 PM
ESP guitars are tits. I've been considering buying an Eclipse, but my money keeps finding other uses.

I'm not as impressed with the LTD counterpart, but nonetheless, they are a great bang-for-the-buck guitar (400 series and up).

I know man its sucks cause ESP's cost a bomb load. yeah im not amazingly impressed with LTD, but some of the LTD Deluxe's for example the MH-1000 are pretty awsome really. The low end LTD's blow though,
Just brought a tubescreamer on the other hand, its fucking amazing

Incendius
11-10-2008, 03:53 AM
Most midranged and higher end LTD are pretty awesome. Never played on i didnt really like.

Minihuse
11-10-2008, 11:48 AM
Most midranged and higher end LTD are pretty awesome. Never played on i didnt really like.

Yeah, i was on bout the really low end ones. The 700 quid onwards ones are pretty sickkkk

Archie
11-12-2008, 03:27 AM
hey. i read this whole thing and ive been trying to been BTBAM tone but a but more of a wider scope...

i'm thinking of getting a ENGL Powerball and a ORange PCC cab... what do you guys think?

porcelainrose
11-12-2008, 03:51 AM
hey. i read this whole thing and ive been trying to been BTBAM tone but a but more of a wider scope...

i'm thinking of getting a ENGL Powerball and a ORange PCC cab... what do you guys think?

Um...if you want better tone than BTBAM then get an Engl Powerball.

Depending on what your playing situation is (be it live or studio), I prefer the Line 6 Vetta II. So far it has not let me down for a single solitary second, providing me with nothing but anus stretch chug and uterus destroying depth.

I've been running an Engl Powerball/Bogner XTC through V30's with a tube screamer for a recording I'm doing right now. I will show you guys finished results soon.

Minihuse
11-12-2008, 07:12 PM
hey. i read this whole thing and ive been trying to been BTBAM tone but a but more of a wider scope...

i'm thinking of getting a ENGL Powerball and a ORange PCC cab... what do you guys think?

Well i go for the exact same thing, so what i did was i brought a Mesa, Single rectifier. Although they use dual recs i went for the single as you dont have to crank it up as much to get that amazing tone. Anyway, and im using a tubescreamer TS9 Through it just like BTBAM do, cept they use TS1's. Either way its made my amp sound really nearly identical to BTBAM tone, and it sounds awsome.
They use MESA's, and they've gotta be one of the best tube heads about so go for that i say,
Engls are sick though, apparenlty the valve life is terrible mind you

underrealm
11-12-2008, 08:20 PM
Most midranged and higher end LTD are pretty awesome. Never played on i didnt really like.

Oh, I agree. Definitely great guitars, and I can't say that I ever played one I didn't like either. But side-by-side with the ESP counterparts show a superior quality in everything from the frets, binding, routing, etc.

The ESP Eclipse that I played recently is every bit as detailed as my Gibson LP Standard - At about $1k less. Plus the neck is fast as a motherfucker, and upper fret access is better. Not that I regret buying my LP, but I have a massive boner for the Eclipse.

Back on topic, though... In defense of the LTD's, it's a fair assessment to say that you get a lot more bang for your buck when comparing to Jacksons (after the Fender buy out), Schecter, and often Ibanez. But yeah, just because I said I wasn't "as impressed" doesn't mean that I wasn't impressed at all. I mean, how could Ben Weinman be wrong about guitars?

porcelainrose
11-13-2008, 04:16 AM
The ESP Eclipse

My 2006 Set-up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/thebabyshredder/sdf.jpg

Shaft
11-13-2008, 04:22 AM
My 2006 Set-up:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/thebabyshredder/sdf.jpg

i c u back der snappin pix

porcelainrose
11-13-2008, 04:29 PM
i c u back der snappin pix

i photoshopped clothing on myself, but i was really naked

i likk muh lipz 4 u

Dont hurt me
11-16-2008, 12:40 AM
i just got these cabs yesterday
http://i33.tinypic.com/e19p2v.jpg

porcelainrose
11-16-2008, 01:36 AM
i just got these cabs yesterday
http://i33.tinypic.com/e19p2v.jpg

Mark Bass rules.

Dont hurt me
11-16-2008, 01:43 AM
yeah dude, this cab sounds SO nice. crystal clear, very true sounding. The LMII head is fucking AMAZING for the price too. I'm debating whether to get that or that SansAmp VTBass pedal+an EHX memory man instead.

label thief
11-26-2008, 12:21 AM
1.http://www.sweetwater.com/images/guitars/Cust24BFMW/142248/142248-front-l.jpg2.http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/750/CustomBS-large.jpg
what color do you guys like better? :)

Jotun
11-26-2008, 12:31 AM
Flame top...

label thief
11-26-2008, 12:40 AM
blah. i agree. i know a month after i get it i'm going to wish i went with something quilt though. All high end guitars like PRS and Suhr always have the gayest finishes. on the internet atleast.

Nolly
11-26-2008, 03:34 AM
You should get a goldtop PRS. They're sexy as fook:

http://www.12fret.com/retail/PRS_McCarty_Goldtop_guitar_2.jpg

Shauncore
11-26-2008, 03:55 AM
If any one wants my LTD Viper then you should fucking buy it...so I can get an S series of course.

ttiwguitar
11-26-2008, 09:03 PM
blah. i agree. i know a month after i get it i'm going to wish i went with something quilt though. All high end guitars like PRS and Suhr always have the gayest finishes. on the internet atleast.

I was thiiiiis close to buying the flame top one a couple months ago. Beautiful guitar.

label thief
11-26-2008, 11:05 PM
http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/50695_l.jpg i'm sold.

little_beaner
11-27-2008, 05:36 AM
My Gear as of now:

RG-1570 with warpigs in them (sold the S Prestige to get it)
Engl Fireball
Vader Cab

getting an H2o Chorus pedal and a Holy Grail plus next month.

Archie
11-27-2008, 08:00 PM
Ive heard alot of talk about Tube Screamers on here...

So whats so good about them, i've got a ENGL Powerball and the gain on that sounds pretty F'n good without a pedal running through it....

underrealm
12-03-2008, 08:34 PM
Ive heard alot of talk about Tube Screamers on here...

So whats so good about them, i've got a ENGL Powerball and the gain on that sounds pretty F'n good without a pedal running through it....

There are a couple of things you can do with a TubeScreamer. You can use it as a boost by turning the gain way down and the level way up. You can use it to smooth out your amp's distortion for leads, usually by turning everything to 12 o'clock (ymmv). You can even use it just to change the "shape" of your sound.

I have been using mine to add a little crunch to my clean channels, as my band never really had any "clean" parts.

You can do a lot with a TS, or any decent distortion pedal for that matter. Been using a BOSS DS-1 a lot, too.

devikit
12-03-2008, 11:58 PM
Cannot beat a DS-1.. ive used it for every type of music ive ever played... even for pretty much clean tones, it just shapes it really nicely.

JakePeriphery
12-05-2008, 01:05 AM
Well I finally was able to acquire my dream guitar, here it is, can't be happier with this instrument. Immediately slapped a Bareknuckle Ceramic Warpig in it this morning...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/enteriaagent/PC030015.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/enteriaagent/PC030018.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/enteriaagent/PC030017.jpg

porcelainrose
12-05-2008, 01:09 AM
Well I finally was able to acquire my dream guitar, here it is, can't be happier with this instrument. Immediately slapped a Bareknuckle Ceramic Warpig in it this morning...


Jake, you're a fucker! I played an Applehorn briefly and fell in love with it.

Great grab man. I just acquired a new guitar the other week:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/thebabyshredder/0902082140.jpg

Jim Root tele

dmlinger
12-05-2008, 01:15 AM
beautiful guitar! let us know how it plays, how the warpig sounds, etc

also, whats up with the apple?

JakePeriphery
12-05-2008, 01:51 AM
Thanks dudes, It plays great for me, it has a interesting neck shape where it's more square closer to the headstock and rounder closer to the body.

Also switching pickups rules because all you do is tap it to switch between pickups, it's push/push.

little_beaner
12-05-2008, 02:48 AM
Caparison applehorn w/ bareknuckle warpigs...christ.

you lucky bastard. congratulation.

Pwnsauce
12-14-2008, 12:43 AM
Does anyone have any clips of a 5150? I think I'm going to completely give up on my PODxt and Revavler for recording. I make no progress at all when I try to get a good tone out of them. My 5150 is my last option ;_;

porcelainrose
12-17-2008, 11:12 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/thebabyshredder/GetAttachmentaspx-1.jpg

Line 6 Vetta Head w/ upgrade
Line 6 Shortboard
Line 6 Vetta Cab w/ V30s

Durchfall
12-22-2008, 03:05 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/thebabyshredder/GetAttachmentaspx-1.jpg

Line 6 Vetta Head w/ upgrade
Line 6 Shortboard
Line 6 Vetta Cab w/ V30s

what do you think about running a vetta head through a standard mesa 4x12 cab? i've been seriously thinking about trading in my triple rec for a vetta 2, but don't know if i can part with that tube amp sound. so i dont know.

saturnine
12-22-2008, 03:46 PM
i don't see the point of running a solid state modeling head through anything but a line 6 cab. it's still a solid state, a mesa cab isn't going to "warm it up" or anything. i would never ever go from a triple rec to a line 6.

i recommend re-reading your mesa manual and start from the ground up with your tone before thinking about another amp. just go at it unbiased and see what you come up with. if you're playing this thing at bedroom levels only, you might want to look into an attenuator to get that cranked sound at that level. check out a tube screamer to play with to, sometimes they can add a nice mid-range spike to the sound.

basically, YOU CRAZY IF YOU GO FROM MESA TO LINE 6.

Durchfall
12-22-2008, 09:39 PM
i don't see the point of running a solid state modeling head through anything but a line 6 cab. it's still a solid state, a mesa cab isn't going to "warm it up" or anything. i would never ever go from a triple rec to a line 6.

i recommend re-reading your mesa manual and start from the ground up with your tone before thinking about another amp. just go at it unbiased and see what you come up with. if you're playing this thing at bedroom levels only, you might want to look into an attenuator to get that cranked sound at that level. check out a tube screamer to play with to, sometimes they can add a nice mid-range spike to the sound.

basically, YOU CRAZY IF YOU GO FROM MESA TO LINE 6.

haha no i don't play it at rooms levels brohan. i've had the thing for about 4 years so i think i know what i can get out of it, and have a tube screamer. the thing is just that im fascinated with everything you can get out of the vetta, endless possibilities.

and the reason i would run i through a mesa cab is cause i already have it and would prefer not to have to buy another cab (if i had to i would). i know someone who does that and it sounds awesome.

JakePeriphery
12-22-2008, 09:54 PM
I used a Vetta II for a couple of gigs, no sir I didn't like it.

I also ran it through a Mesa Traditional 4x12

saturnine
12-22-2008, 10:57 PM
Yeah I strongly recommend you don't go for the Vetta. I really think it would be a step backwards. Check out some other Mesa amps if you're not happy like the Roadster, Road King, Stiletto. There's pretty strong rumors of the Mark V being released at NAMM as well. If Mesa just isn't your thing any more, check out some amps like Marshall, ENGL, VHT, Bogner, Peavey, etc. I think any of those will be a metric crapton better than a Line 6.

As far as the cab thing, if you go to try out other amps try to bring your cab or use the same model in the store so you get the best idea. I have a Mesa Traditional 4x12 as well that I hauled in when I was searching for a new amp and they don't give a crap. If there's a sale on a big tube amp on the line, most places will bend over backwards to help.

Shaft
12-23-2008, 12:04 AM
Jake, you're a fucker! I played an Applehorn briefly and fell in love with it.

Great grab man. I just acquired a new guitar the other week:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/thebabyshredder/0902082140.jpg

Jim Root tele


Wait... The dude from Slipknot?

Smallz
12-23-2008, 12:14 AM
Yes. And he's always had pretty awesome taste in guitars.

Durchfall
12-23-2008, 12:40 AM
Yeah I strongly recommend you don't go for the Vetta. I really think it would be a step backwards. Check out some other Mesa amps if you're not happy like the Roadster, Road King, Stiletto. There's pretty strong rumors of the Mark V being released at NAMM as well. If Mesa just isn't your thing any more, check out some amps like Marshall, ENGL, VHT, Bogner, Peavey, etc. I think any of those will be a metric crapton better than a Line 6.

As far as the cab thing, if you go to try out other amps try to bring your cab or use the same model in the store so you get the best idea. I have a Mesa Traditional 4x12 as well that I hauled in when I was searching for a new amp and they don't give a crap. If there's a sale on a big tube amp on the line, most places will bend over backwards to help.

yea i feel ya. the whole switch over was just a thought. i probably wouldn't actually commit myself to getting something new for a while anyway.

Nolly
12-23-2008, 08:45 PM
Jake - NICE Caparison, I've wanted to try one for ages. The camo warpig looks damn good with the black stain finish, you need to get a distressed Sinner in the neck of that badger though.

Porcelanrose: I was really really considering the JR tele for a while, but they were out of stock everywhere, so I scored a '72 Tele Deluxe RI and modded it up:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/IMG_1749.jpg

Minihuse
12-26-2008, 12:19 PM
I've been eyein up this pedal board for a while now. Its a rockase gigboard, looks pretty steady and its a decent size. Detatchable lid, way more sterdy than the boss ones. What does everyone think?


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/minihuse/13527_1.gif

Nolly
12-26-2008, 12:25 PM
I've been eyein up this pedal board for a while now. Its a rockase gigboard, looks pretty steady and its a decent size. Detatchable lid, way more sterdy than the boss ones. What does everyone think?


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/minihuse/13527_1.gif

Hmmm, well it does look pretty case-y.

porcelainrose
12-26-2008, 01:39 PM
what do you think about running a vetta head through a standard mesa 4x12 cab? i've been seriously thinking about trading in my triple rec for a vetta 2, but don't know if i can part with that tube amp sound. so i dont know.

What a lot of people don't get is you have to turn off the cabinet simulator when you run it through a cab that isn't built for modeling. My Line 6 Cab has Vintage 30s in it. So whenever I run an amp through it, I turn off the cabinet attached to it. I had a H&K Triamp Mk II & have a Sovtek Mig100, and the only amp I used other than the Vetta was the Sovtek for ONE song that was super Cult of Luna-ish.

PS: If you ever liked Knife the Glitter live, they used Vettas through Mesa 4x12s; always did. Now they use Fractal Audio through some crazy PA speakers.
Wait... The dude from Slipknot?

Yeah dooder.

Porcelainrose: I was really really considering the JR tele for a while, but they were out of stock everywhere, so I scored a '72 Tele Deluxe RI and modded it up:

That is a CLASSY looking tele dude!

----------------------------------------------------

I'd put the Vetta up against a slew of heads that most bands are using these days. You reeeally have to know how to use it, and you won't learn how to over night if it's your first time trying it out. I used it on recording and think it came out better than the amps I brought with me: 5150 (sold this), VHT pitbull (friends), a friends Stiletto, and a Triamp MkII (just sold this). All I have now is a Vetta & my Sovtek Mig100. You'd think me nuts for selling a Hughes & Kettner Triamp Mk II.

Minihuse
12-26-2008, 05:50 PM
Yeah Nolly i know, but it is a case aswell kinda, but i thought it was pretty cool, what do you think man ?

underrealm
12-26-2008, 08:24 PM
Yeah Nolly i know, but it is a case aswell kinda, but i thought it was pretty cool, what do you think man ?

I'm sure it would do the job. But if I were going to buy a pedal case, I would go ahead and get something to power my pedals. At least that way you can have the luxury of keeping it all set up with cables plugged in, without the worry of batteries going dead. Otherwise, you could probably get a badass briefcase from the thrift store for much less.

kthxhai
12-26-2008, 08:46 PM
should i sell my RG550 re-issue bullshit for an S or something? it's not a bad guitar but its not great.

Nolly
12-26-2008, 09:48 PM
Yeah Nolly i know, but it is a case aswell kinda, but i thought it was pretty cool, what do you think man ?

Sorry, weird mood earlier. Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like it's built pretty solid, and the lip around the edge isn't annoyingly high. Other than that, I'm not too sure what qualities are needed from a pedalboard case..

Nolly
12-26-2008, 09:49 PM
That is a CLASSY looking tele dude!

Thanks mate! Just needs a new nut and the transformation is complete. Some day soon my mate will come round with his SLR and get some proper pictures.

Minihuse
12-26-2008, 11:30 PM
Sorry, weird mood earlier. Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like it's built pretty solid, and the lip around the edge isn't annoyingly high. Other than that, I'm not too sure what qualities are needed from a pedalboard case..

Ah its alright man. Well, i chose it cause its a decent pedal board, and a case. Obviously the lid detaches n stuff so... And undereallm, i know it doesnt come with a powerpack, but i didnt mind as most of the powerpacks that come with pedal boards are unreliable n shite so.. i figured id get this and go with either a Dunlop DC Brick, or a vooodo labs pedal power.



This is my amp setup atm, you like ????


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/minihuse/DSC00278.jpg

little_beaner
12-27-2008, 04:40 AM
Bad ass, sir.

Nolly
12-27-2008, 10:01 AM
Looks great mate, though DRs aren't really my thing. Not really a combination you see every day, but the Cornfords are great sounding cabs. Are you running the EQ into the front of the amp?

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Here's some more pics of my Tele:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/Guitar%20stuff/Tele%20Deluxe/HPIM0512.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/Guitar%20stuff/Tele%20Deluxe/HPIM0511.jpg

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/Guitar%20stuff/Tele%20Deluxe/HPIM0514.jpg

Minihuse
12-27-2008, 10:50 AM
Looks great mate, though DRs aren't really my thing. Not really a combination you see every day, but the Cornfords are great sounding cabs. Are you running the EQ into the front of the amp?

Yeah, well i knew cornfords are great sounded cabs, vintage 30's etc. I just figured, i could pay a grand for a mesa rectifier cab, or get this cornford that sounds just as good for less.
And yeah my EQ is infront of the amp in this pic. Should probably run it through the effects loop. Anyway speakin of guitars,

My ESP horizon....

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/minihuse/S1030822.jpg

and my S Prestige

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/minihuse/IMG_5484.jpg

Love them both dearly but my Horizon pisses on the S

Nolly
12-27-2008, 11:21 AM
That's fair enough on the cab I guess. You should try out an Orange cab with your recto, they go together very nicely.
The proper ESPs are great guitars, I'd probably have a Horizon by now if it didn't have such silly volume knob placement.

Minihuse
12-27-2008, 12:19 PM
That's fair enough on the cab I guess. You should try out an Orange cab with your recto, they go together very nicely.
The proper ESPs are great guitars, I'd probably have a Horizon by now if it didn't have such silly volume knob placement.

Naaaaa it doesnt man its pretty normal to me! lol,
But na dude you should get one, it plays like an absoloute beauty. Probably the best playin guitar ever, then again, you have a black machine, you prick! lol
Hows that playin man ?

Nolly
12-27-2008, 12:23 PM
Heheh, even in that picture of you playing, your picking hand is hitting the knob.. I just can't deal with that.
And, it's just as good as the day I got it, ie you have to experience it to believe it.

Stradale13
12-27-2008, 09:19 PM
Been a long time since I've been on here but I have a new drum set ordered should be coming in January:

Sonor Delite Walnut Roots veneer

8x7 10x8 12x9 14x14 16x16 22x17.5

And the Artist Series 13x5 Earth Finish 27 ply beechwood snare drum

I ordered it 4 months ago I HOPE IT FUCKING GETS HERE SOON. Pics when it arrives!

Minihuse
12-28-2008, 05:03 PM
Heheh, even in that picture of you playing, your picking hand is hitting the knob.. I just can't deal with that.
And, it's just as good as the day I got it, ie you have to experience it to believe it.
I've never ever felt my hand against the nob, and never even seen the placement of it as an issue so it doesnt really bother me like. Like i said seems pretty standard to me. If you see one, try it out sometime man, there awsome guitars. Id never get at LTD though.
My horizon playes awsome still, i love it
Was thinkin of getting a bm for a while but not havin a neck-thru put me off. However i wouldnt say no to one for shit these days,

Nolly
12-28-2008, 10:16 PM
I've never ever felt my hand against the nob, and never even seen the placement of it as an issue so it doesnt really bother me like. Like i said seems pretty standard to me. If you see one, try it out sometime man, there awsome guitars. Id never get at LTD though.
My horizon playes awsome still, i love it
Was thinkin of getting a bm for a while but not havin a neck-thru put me off. However i wouldnt say no to one for shit these days,

There's a K in "Knob". What you wrote reads rather amusingly.
That aside, I've played my fair share of ESPs and LTDs, it's just a personal thing about the volume knob, the playabilty is generally very consistently good. The proper ESPs are some of the best production-line guitars you can get.
Doug did actually build a few neck-through guitars, but it completely contradicts the theory behind his design, and apparently they didn't sound anywhere as good as the bolt-on guitars. He is offering set-neck joints as an option on all guitars he builds now, which is basically the same joint, just glued into place rather than bolted.

Minihuse
12-29-2008, 11:49 AM
There's a K in "Knob". What you wrote reads rather amusingly.
That aside, I've played my fair share of ESPs and LTDs, it's just a personal thing about the volume knob, the playabilty is generally very consistently good. The proper ESPs are some of the best production-line guitars you can get.
Doug did actually build a few neck-through guitars, but it completely contradicts the theory behind his design, and apparently they didn't sound anywhere as good as the bolt-on guitars. He is offering set-neck joints as an option on all guitars he builds now, which is basically the same joint, just glued into place rather than bolted.

Couldn't be arsed to check my spellings on here, although yes i am aware there is a k in 'knob' haha.
Anyway, yeah I've played some really gorgeous ESP's. The Eclipses play really nicely, pretty close to a Gibson LP I'd say, just not as pricey. I still think the Horizon is extremely comfortable in comparison to the other ESP's.

I guess with how thin the body is of BM's, it would be hard to make a decent neck through model. I spose it does defeat the object of having such a thin guitar. I guess it is just down to personal choice as to why i prefer neck through. I just think it makes guitars way nicer, then again i wouldnt turn down a black machine, not for shit.
What are orange cabs like ? I've always heard good things about them, but just how good are they?

porcelainrose
12-29-2008, 05:48 PM
I've never ever felt my hand against the nob, and never even seen the placement of it as an issue so it doesnt really bother me like. Like i said seems pretty standard to me. If you see one, try it out sometime man...

BAHAHAHAHA yeah man, me either.

Nolly
12-29-2008, 10:50 PM
Couldn't be arsed to check my spellings on here, although yes i am aware there is a k in 'knob' haha.
Anyway, yeah I've played some really gorgeous ESP's. The Eclipses play really nicely, pretty close to a Gibson LP I'd say, just not as pricey. I still think the Horizon is extremely comfortable in comparison to the other ESP's.

I guess with how thin the body is of BM's, it would be hard to make a decent neck through model. I spose it does defeat the object of having such a thin guitar. I guess it is just down to personal choice as to why i prefer neck through. I just think it makes guitars way nicer, then again i wouldnt turn down a black machine, not for shit.
What are orange cabs like ? I've always heard good things about them, but just how good are they?

porcelainrose: glad someone saw it the way I did :)

The thing with the BM is the relation between the body and neck. The wood selection is paramount in the design - he goes for extremely dense Honduras rosewood, then stiffens it further with ebony fillets. This is all to allow maximum energy transfer to the thin body that then resonates across its whole surface in a way that a thicker body cannot. By making sure as much resonance as possible transfers from neck to body and back again, Doug has managed to design a guitar that generates exceptional tone, while being much thinner than conventionally thought possible. The design also gives an amazing response and very loud acoustic tone that you have to try for yourself to believe.
In a neck through design. There is no real transfer of energy between the centre block and the wings - all resonance occurs down the single central piece of wood. If you build a guitar as thin as the Blackmachine with an extremely dense and stiff neck-through, you'll get an insanely bright and thin sounding guitar.

The Orange cabs are great. In my experiences, they improve the sound of a rig 90% of situations (the exception being with Diezels, where they seem to be too dark). They don't sound like your conventional V30 cab at all, much rounder and smoother than you normally get with V30s. They are heavy as shit though.

Minihuse
12-30-2008, 09:30 AM
porcelainrose: glad someone saw it the way I did :)

The thing with the BM is the relation between the body and neck. The wood selection is paramount in the design - he goes for extremely dense Honduras rosewood, then stiffens it further with ebony fillets. This is all to allow maximum energy transfer to the thin body that then resonates across its whole surface in a way that a thicker body cannot. By making sure as much resonance as possible transfers from neck to body and back again, Doug has managed to design a guitar that generates exceptional tone, while being much thinner than conventionally thought possible. The design also gives an amazing response and very loud acoustic tone that you have to try for yourself to believe.
In a neck through design. There is no real transfer of energy between the centre block and the wings - all resonance occurs down the single central piece of wood. If you build a guitar as thin as the Blackmachine with an extremely dense and stiff neck-through, you'll get an insanely bright and thin sounding guitar.

The Orange cabs are great. In my experiences, they improve the sound of a rig 90% of situations (the exception being with Diezels, where they seem to be too dark). They don't sound like your conventional V30 cab at all, much rounder and smoother than you normally get with V30s. They are heavy as shit though.

Ah right. Yeah ima have to look in to gettin an orange cab. I've heard to many good things about them to just leave it now haha.
They pricey? How much did you pay for yours Nolly?

prayerforazazelandme
12-30-2008, 11:22 AM
Been a long time since I've been on here but I have a new drum set ordered should be coming in January:

Sonor Delite Walnut Roots veneer

8x7 10x8 12x9 14x14 16x16 22x17.5

And the Artist Series 13x5 Earth Finish 27 ply beechwood snare drum

I ordered it 4 months ago I HOPE IT FUCKING GETS HERE SOON. Pics when it arrives!

That sounds fucking awesome. Can't wait for the pics. Nice to hear from you dude.

Nolly
12-30-2008, 01:42 PM
Ah right. Yeah ima have to look in to gettin an orange cab. I've heard to many good things about them to just leave it now haha.
They pricey? How much did you pay for yours Nolly?

They're definitely a great combo with the Mesas.
I paid about £500 mine I think, maybe a tad more. The black tolex doesn't cost any extra, you just have to wait for them to build one if they don't have stock lying around at the factory.

Minihuse
12-30-2008, 03:54 PM
They're definitely a great combo with the Mesas.
I paid about £500 mine I think, maybe a tad more. The black tolex doesn't cost any extra, you just have to wait for them to build one if they don't have stock lying around at the factory.

Yeah i think id much rather have one with the black frame. The orange wouldn't exactly look right with a rectifier.
If i liked it that much i'd trade my cornford, cause i'd get atleast 450 for it so, ima have to see.
Im guessing you had to wait for a bit to get the one with black tolex right?

Nolly
12-30-2008, 10:01 PM
Yeah i think id much rather have one with the black frame. The orange wouldn't exactly look right with a rectifier.
If i liked it that much i'd trade my cornford, cause i'd get atleast 450 for it so, ima have to see.
Im guessing you had to wait for a bit to get the one with black tolex right?

Cool, yeah I had to wait about 10 weeks, but I think that was pretty much the longest you'd have to wait. I think most people get theirs within a month or so.

Minihuse
12-30-2008, 10:12 PM
Cool, yeah I had to wait about 10 weeks, but I think that was pretty much the longest you'd have to wait. I think most people get theirs within a month or so.

Cool. Just posted a new thread about leaving your cab in cold conditions, you got any light to shed on the matter Nolly? This is the link to it

http://www.smnnews.com/board/showthread.php?t=198303&highlight=cab+cold

Minihuse
01-03-2009, 09:11 AM
Hmmm, i've been lookin into gettin a black machine for a bit now but, not sure.
Nolly, how long were you waiting for yours, and approximately how much did it set you back ? If you dont mind me asking dude ....

Nolly
01-03-2009, 12:13 PM
Hmmm, i've been lookin into gettin a black machine for a bit now but, not sure.
Nolly, how long were you waiting for yours, and approximately how much did it set you back ? If you dont mind me asking dude ....

Erm, my wait was considerable shorter than most people's, because of a few different factors, the main one being that I adopted a half-finished body that Doug wanted to build up for the Frankfurt Musikmesse. It was about 5 months in total I think, the price I paid was kinda a special arrangement, no idea what it might have been under different circumstances (that quilt top is an amazingly expensive piece).
Standard wait is about 18-24 months for the custom models, 8 weeks for the B6s when he resumes production early next year.
I'm picking up a B6 on Thursday, which was left over stock from the initial run, and he's building up a custom instrument for me for the London Guitar Show in June (paid the deposit for that April 2008).

The basic prices for the custom instruments are as follows (but be warned, since Doug sources a lot of his timber from the states, the economic situation at the moment may force his prices up)

B2 - £2100
B7 - £2300
B8 - £2500
F8 - £2800

prices include:
ebony top
either swamp ash or antique mahogany body African or Macassar ebony/cocobolo/honduras rosewood/zebrawood fingerboard
Any pickups (Bareknuckle/Lundgren/Hauessel/EMG/Seymour Duncan/DiMarzio)
Any control layout, coil-tapping etc
Any brand of hardware/tuners etc

Minihuse
01-03-2009, 02:15 PM
Erm, my wait was considerable shorter than most people's, because of a few different factors, the main one being that I adopted a half-finished body that Doug wanted to build up for the Frankfurt Musikmesse. It was about 5 months in total I think, the price I paid was kinda a special arrangement, no idea what it might have been under different circumstances (that quilt top is an amazingly expensive piece).
Standard wait is about 18-24 months for the custom models, 8 weeks for the B6s when he resumes production early next year.
I'm picking up a B6 on Thursday, which was left over stock from the initial run, and he's building up a custom instrument for me for the London Guitar Show in June (paid the deposit for that April 2008).

The basic prices for the custom instruments are as follows (but be warned, since Doug sources a lot of his timber from the states, the economic situation at the moment may force his prices up)

B2 - £2100
B7 - £2300
B8 - £2500
F8 - £2800

prices include:
ebony top
either swamp ash or antique mahogany body African or Macassar ebony/cocobolo/honduras rosewood/zebrawood fingerboard
Any pickups (Bareknuckle/Lundgren/Hauessel/EMG/Seymour Duncan/DiMarzio)
Any control layout, coil-tapping etc
Any brand of hardware/tuners etc


Ohh right. Well, I'd love one like pins black one. That one seems to be the only one thats really made me tempted to buy one. Im guessing thats gonna set me back quite alot.
Yours is one of the specials aint it man ?

Nolly
01-03-2009, 08:06 PM
Ohh right. Well, I'd love one like pins black one. That one seems to be the only one thats really made me tempted to buy one. Im guessing thats gonna set me back quite alot.
Yours is one of the specials aint it man ?

Mine is one of the specials, yeah. Pin's black one is completely "standard", it'd be £2100.

Minihuse
01-04-2009, 01:30 PM
Mine is one of the specials, yeah. Pin's black one is completely "standard", it'd be £2100.

Ah right. Ill av to be lookin then.

Wonder if they play as nice as PRS's, ima have to check this out

Nolly
01-04-2009, 01:43 PM
Ah right. Ill av to be lookin then.

Wonder if they play as nice as PRS's, ima have to check this out

I've played several Private Stock, and countless Artist Pack PRSi, and none have come close to my B2. The quilt top is also the best example I've ever come across, even compared to the Private Stocks.

If anyone's interested, the top for my next custom Blackmachine is going to be one of these two, undecided at the moment:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/Guitar%20stuff/nb031.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/Guitar%20stuff/nb033.jpg

Durchfall
01-04-2009, 01:49 PM
gahhh dayumm nice wood there i would take the first one

Nolly
01-04-2009, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I'm swinging towards that one at the moment, but I keep changing my mind every few days. The other one looks like an old map or something, I like the asymmetry and the swirly figuring, whereas the first one just looks utterly, brilliantly fucked up.

Minihuse
01-04-2009, 05:28 PM
I've played several Private Stock, and countless Artist Pack PRSi, and none have come close to my B2. The quilt top is also the best example I've ever come across, even compared to the Private Stocks.

If anyone's interested, the top for my next custom Blackmachine is going to be one of these two, undecided at the moment:

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/Guitar%20stuff/nb031.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh76/Nollythegreat/Guitar%20stuff/nb033.jpg

I vote the second one man, prefer it without the black in it. Whatever you pick its gonna look sweet though =D.

Stradale13
01-06-2009, 01:34 AM
Kit is on its way (minus 8" tom and 16" floor tom)

Should be here on Friday/Monday!

FUCKING STOKED.

Jotun
01-06-2009, 01:50 AM
Give me a snare drum Matthew. I can only play with the same one for so long.

Stradale13
01-07-2009, 12:55 AM
Give me a snare drum Matthew. I can only play with the same one for so long.

I'll see what I can do for ya. :emot-nod: