GEAR DISCUSSION. Guitars, drums, amps, effects, etc..

[BZM]

Can anyone give me feedback on this equiptment im going for

Marshall JMP-1 Preamp
http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=JMP-1

Carvin TS100 Tube Power Amp
http://www.carvin.com/products/single.php?ItemNumber=TS100&CID=GPRE

also this may be a dumb question but im not to familiar with tube amps so, tube amps are like 3 times louder than solid state right? so if i get a 100 watt tube power amp it will be like 300 solid state watts right?

You're kind of dumb, but yes, 100 watts of tube will easily crush 300 watts of solid state, and there's really no comparison whatsoever in tone... that setup will melt faces, I think you'll be shocked at the sound if you've been used to solid state amps all this time.

[adreadfulend]

Thanks, sorry for being a dumbass but ive never used tube before, also im thinking of getting an ENGL E530 Preamp instead of the marshall JMP-1 and its suposed to be amazing for brutal/death metal tones aswell as other styles too

[BZM]

the e530? nah... maybe for rock-based music, it doesn't have a whole lot of gain... I believe you're thinking of the ENGL 570 SE, which is what Necrophagist uses, and yes, IS some of the best amplification for death metal... and anything else.

[Shaft]

Anyone ever use Krank heads?

[Jotun]

Anyone ever use Krank heads?

"Don't waste your time/money" seems to be the general concensus regarding their amps.

[Shaft]

Right on.

[maynard's dick]

i'm looking at the boss me-50... i love the boss compact pedals and i was wondering if you'd get similar sounds out of this board as you would with their individual pedal line... anyone used one of these bad boys? or the gt boards?

[underrealm]

i'm looking at the boss me-50... i love the boss compact pedals and i was wondering if you'd get similar sounds out of this board as you would with their individual pedal line... anyone used one of these bad boys? or the gt boards?

I really like my ME-50, but I wouldn't tour with it. I like it for practice and just fuckin' around. The sound effects are decent, and probably comparable to what you would expect out of any other BOSS pedal. I just wouldn't rely on it for touring because it isn't quite as "solid" and reliable as a multitude of BOSS pedals would be. The chassis is alright, but it's not something you can stomp the fuck out of, unlike its counterparts.

I mainly use mine for the delay, harmonizer, and octave expression. I also use it to record direct to my PC when writing songs. It's definitely worth the $300 price tag.

[maynard's dick]

I really like my ME-50, but I wouldn't tour with it. I like it for practice and just fuckin' around. The sound effects are decent, and probably comparable to what you would expect out of any other BOSS pedal. I just wouldn't rely on it for touring because it isn't quite as "solid" and reliable as a multitude of BOSS pedals would be. The chassis is alright, but it's not something you can stomp the fuck out of, unlike its counterparts.

I mainly use mine for the delay, harmonizer, and octave expression. I also use it to record direct to my PC when writing songs. It's definitely worth the $300 price tag.


the main reason i was considering is that my mt-2 just broke and a new one costs like 150. i saw the mt setting on the me-50 and though "hmmm for an bit extra i get my old pedal plus like 40000 others". i haven't had a chance to try one out though so i have no idea if it sounds like my old single mt. plus there isn't much of a pre-amp like the single pedals have...

[operaterxrayter]

i have been reading up on alot of bands gear lately and i have noticed alot of them having a overdrive pedal in their " arsenal " and i generally dont hear the overdrive by itself so i was wondering if they run the amps distortion channel and the overdrive pedal at the same time... for instance i read that as i lay dying has this set up.. so if anyone could shed some light to me on this subject, i personally feel that my amps distortion is enough for me.. (marshall tsl 100) but if there is a way to improve my tone and distortion i would like to know.

[BZM]

well, you're kind of a faggot because you like AILD. But I'll shed some light on this for you anyways. No one actually uses the overdrive pedal to color their tone with it when it comes to extreme metal situations; what an overdrive pedal like say, the TS-1 would be used for, is people put the gain and tone on 0 and then crank the level on the pedal so that, when say a solo comes up, simply hit the pedal and you get a clean boost of gain for increased volume and punchiness for the solo without coloring your tone too much.

the Boss SD-1/Ibanez TS909/TS1 have long been in the secret arsenals of all metalheads and shredders since the 80's.

[devikit]

well, you're kind of a faggot because you like AILD. But I'll shed some light on this for you anyways. No one actually uses the overdrive pedal to color their tone with it when it comes to extreme metal situations; what an overdrive pedal like say, the TS-1 would be used for, is people put the gain and tone on 0 and then crank the level on the pedal so that, when say a solo comes up, simply hit the pedal and you get a clean boost of gain for increased volume and punchiness for the solo without coloring your tone too much.

the Boss SD-1/Ibanez TS909/TS1 have long been in the secret arsenals of all metalheads and shredders since the 80's.

i get the same effect with my boss DS-1, its all down to your amps distortion/tone.

[invadertim]

Anyone ever use Krank heads?
ALready replied to, but I would just like to say that Krank has the thinest, most static-type distortion ive ever heard, There isnt a BIT of warm or bite to it even at high volumes, The dudes in bigger bands who use them must have enough shit going through them to make them sound better. Cuz on its own, its a piece. Oh and WAY fucking noisy in a bad way. not playing= FUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ and Ive got a 5150 for fucks sake and its 10X worse than that

[sean2332]

I want to know if Blake hits his little 8 or 12 inch or whatever little china during their cover of "Blackened" and all throughout the Anatomy Of cd...it sounds soo fucking cool, all short and violent, I WANT ONE!! please tell me that brand and size it is!!! I MUST KNOW!!

[teh Mazn]

just buy a wuhan china splash for $10 at sam ash. my brother has 2 of em. best $20 he ever spent. those things rule.

[cannibaL.]

what is the effect that explosions in the sky and mono and alot of post rock bands use when like they tremolo?

[Jotun]

what is the effect that explosions in the sky and mono and alot of post rock bands use when like they tremolo?

Probably delay, if it's the sound I'm thinking of.

[Lungs and Limbs]

Hey guys, I'm on a search for a solid music creation/mixing program. I want to make some experimental electronic beats but add alot of my own sounds (ie. recording from a microKorg, guitar, and other instruments), so I'm not looking for a program where I will be restricted to using only pre-made samples and such. Also, I'm working off of a Mac...

Have any of you had experience with or heard of the strongest programs for this type of thing? Thanks for any input.

[BZM]

fruity loops.

[crandlett]

Jesus's setup:

http://www.johnpetrucci.com/images/equipment/tot_rig_1.jpg
http://www.johnpetrucci.com/images/equipment/tot_rig_front_closeup.jpg

[parabola5353]

your first post is a picture of the dude from dream theatres setup?

[My Arms Your Hearse]

I got a few new things to ask about:

Splawn Pro Mod 100- http://www.rocksolidamps.com/description.php?II=60&UID=2006122003183224.25.63.24

anyone know anything about these?

I'm about to start working my ass off so I can get some decent gear, instead of my fender 212, that it seems I will forever have unless I do so.

Ashdown Fallen Angel Guitar Half-Stack- http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ashdown-Fallen-Angel-Tube-Amp-HalfStack-?sku=480418

These seem new, I've never heard of them before, has anyone else?

These are looking pretty good to me aswell:

Marshall DSL100 Silver Edition 100 Watt All-Tube Head (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-DSL100-Silver-Edition-100-Watt-AllTube-Head?sku=486010)
Marshall Refurbished MF280 Mode Four 4X12 Cab

Wow, just came across this, wasn't aware Ibanez made tube amps..

Ibanez TN120 Thermion Guitar Amp Head:
* 120W 5%THD @ 4, 8, or 16 ohms
* All tube signal (NO SOLID-STATE!) line circuitry with mechanical relays
* 4 x 6L6GCMSTRMATCHED Ruby Tubes output tubes (user switchable to 6550s)
* 5 x 12AX7A-SELECTED Ruby Tubes preamp tubes
* HI/LO input impedance switch
* Two independent channels: Vintage Channel & Hot Channel
* Tube circuit Effects Loop w/Send and Return Level Control on the front panel
* Blend/Series switch and 0dB/-20dB switch
* Illuminated front panel and illuminated Ibanez logo
* Dampening switch enables different distortion characteristics out of Hot channel
* Rotary 3-position bright switch in Vintage channel
* Traditional passive EQ in both channels
* 3-button footswitch for channel switching, dampening and effects loop on/off.
* Weight: 50lbs

[Bman]

Ashdown Fallen Angel Guitar Half-Stack-

It sounds so metal it HAS to be good -_-

[My Arms Your Hearse]

yeah, i figured it would suck, it just looks cheap as well

[JakePeriphery]

Idk who it is...I just found that pic
and thought I should post it.

it prolly is..

That's Mark Synder, he builds John's rigs.

[invadertim]

I got a few new things to ask about:

Splawn Pro Mod 100- http://www.rocksolidamps.com/description.php?II=60&UID=2006122003183224.25.63.24

anyone know anything about these?

I'm about to start working my ass off so I can get some decent gear, instead of my fender 212, that it seems I will forever have unless I do so.

Ashdown Fallen Angel Guitar Half-Stack- http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ashdown-Fallen-Angel-Tube-Amp-HalfStack-?sku=480418

These seem new, I've never heard of them before, has anyone else?

These are looking pretty good to me aswell:

Marshall DSL100 Silver Edition 100 Watt All-Tube Head (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-DSL100-Silver-Edition-100-Watt-AllTube-Head?sku=486010)
Marshall Refurbished MF280 Mode Four 4X12 Cab

Wow, just came across this, wasn't aware Ibanez made tube amps..

Ibanez TN120 Thermion Guitar Amp Head:
* 120W 5%THD @ 4, 8, or 16 ohms
* All tube signal (NO SOLID-STATE!) line circuitry with mechanical relays
* 4 x 6L6GCMSTRMATCHED Ruby Tubes output tubes (user switchable to 6550s)
* 5 x 12AX7A-SELECTED Ruby Tubes preamp tubes
* HI/LO input impedance switch
* Two independent channels: Vintage Channel & Hot Channel
* Tube circuit Effects Loop w/Send and Return Level Control on the front panel
* Blend/Series switch and 0dB/-20dB switch
* Illuminated front panel and illuminated Ibanez logo
* Dampening switch enables different distortion characteristics out of Hot channel
* Rotary 3-position bright switch in Vintage channel
* Traditional passive EQ in both channels
* 3-button footswitch for channel switching, dampening and effects loop on/off.
* Weight: 50lbs




Splawn are like marshalls only straight. Marshall - the heaps of Homo. fucking awesome amps

[Jotun]

Marshall - the heaps of Homo.

Durrrrr
http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/images/terri11.jpg

[Savior]

Splawn are like marshalls only straight. Marshall - the heaps of Homo. fucking awesome amps
Just stop posting.

[Dont hurt me]

I need some helps with my bass cab..

Are orange cabs worth the money? Right now, I could wait a week and get a Galien Krueger Goldline 1x15, wait a few weeks and get an Ampeg, or wait like a month and get the Orange.

I have an ashdown 300 watt combo, and I just need an extension cab so I dont need to carry around my 4x10 everywhere. but is orange worth it over Ampeg? I love the looks of them, but don't know much about the sound.

[invadertim]

Just stop posting.

lol sorry I am not a marshall fan. BUT Gojira uses em apparently, so they can't all bad. haha

let me refrase for clarity.
The Splawn that I played had a tone similar to a Marshall only with a heavier and high level of gain. IN MY OPINION. I was never able to get a sound close to this out of a Marshall with out the use of pedals and whatnot.
i would personally recommend a splawn if you have the money. HOwever if you have the money for that, check out ENGL.

[BZM]

Well, durr, of course a Splawn is going to rape a Marshall, because it's just a marshall, only hot-rodded out the ass - without marshall, there is no splawn. So fucking RESPECT.

p.s. the thermion blows

[adrianwar]

Hey guys, this weekend I'm going to buy a new guitar. But I can't decide on which one of these.

Ibanez RG3EXQM1
Ibanez RG5EX1
Ibanez RG350MDX

Or should I wait like a month and get this one http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-S520EX-Electric-Guitar?sku=519964

Any suggestions?

[underrealm]

My suggestion would be to avoid the RG*EX's at all costs. Those are cheapie "Guitar Center Exclusives" that suck major Indonesian balls. Speaking of Indonesia, that is where those guitars are made, and believe me when I say that their quality control isn't all that great.

The Korean guitars are a step up (RG350MDX or S520EX you were looking at), but you can get a much more badass guitar if you with a used Japanese Ibanez from eBay or craigslist or some shit.

If I were you, I certainly wouldn't fuck yourself with any of the guitars you listed. Not when you can get a Japanese quality Ibanez for the same price when you buy used. Not to mention the new Korean S Series all have the Wizard II, which is way fatter than the good 'ole original Wizard necks that they put on Japanese S Series.

If you MUST buy a new guitar, then SAVE your money and and buy a MIJ Ibanez.

[T3h Effing Broom]

Splawn are the dank tank.

The new Ibanez guitars are going to rape everything to hell...just wait and see what I mean in about a week or so...

[Pluperfect_Arson]

I need some helps with my bass cab..

Are orange cabs worth the money? Right now, I could wait a week and get a Galien Krueger Goldline 1x15, wait a few weeks and get an Ampeg, or wait like a month and get the Orange.

I have an ashdown 300 watt combo, and I just need an extension cab so I dont need to carry around my 4x10 everywhere. but is orange worth it over Ampeg? I love the looks of them, but don't know much about the sound.

Gallien-Kruger's Goldline series is just plain ugly. Also, I really do not care for GK all that much, but to each their own.

Also, which Ampeg cabinet are you looking into? Ampegs are not really for everyone, and, as much as I have seen, it is, mostly, a love/hate relationship with them. Personally, I have never been a fan of Ampeg.

I am assuming that you have the Ashdown C410T-300 Combo, which I have no experience with.

If you purchase an extension cabinet for your combo, that will not prevent you from having to carry around your 4x10", seeing as it is part of a combo setup. You would need a separate amp unit to power the extra cabinet, if you wanted to use it alone, so I do not see what you are trying to make a point of with that post.

You should walk down to your local instrument dealer and try out whatever they have. That would be best for you instead of asking a forum, seeing as we cannot form your opinion for you, unless you are easily influenced...

[invadertim]

Gallien-Kruger's Goldline series is just plain ugly. Also, I really do not care for GK all that much, but to each their own.

Also, which Ampeg cabinet are you looking into? Ampegs are not really for everyone, and, as much as I have seen, it is, mostly, a love/hate relationship with them. Personally, I have never been a fan of Ampeg.

I am assuming that you have the Ashdown C410T-300 Combo, which I have no experience with.

If you purchase an extension cabinet for your combo, that will not prevent you from having to carry around your 4x10", seeing as it is part of a combo setup. You would need a separate amp unit to power the extra cabinet, if you wanted to use it alone, so I do not see what you are trying to make a point of with that post.

You should walk down to your local instrument dealer and try out whatever they have. That would be best for you instead of asking a forum, seeing as we cannot form your opinion for you, unless you are easily influenced...

did you read the rest of this thread?? cuz its mostly people asking for other people's opinions on musical gear/purchases.
All that fancy grammer happenning there, but you couldn't just give your opinion on the amp you ALSO had to be a cock.
kudos ballsack.

[Ouroboros]

Japanese made instruments from the past decade have great workmanship. Picked up a Jackson SLSMG the other week, and fell in love. Beautifully crafted guitar with some major playability.

Go with Japan made or if you got the cash USA/Canadian. If you want to spend serious cash, check out some fine European made instruments like Vigier. Conklin's are amazing too, but they are out of the USA.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

did you read the rest of this thread?? cuz its mostly people asking for other people's opinions on musical gear/purchases.
All that fancy grammer happenning there, but you couldn't just give your opinion on the amp you ALSO had to be a cock.
kudos ballsack.

Actually, I did not read the rest of the thread, and I fail to see how I was a "cock."

[Jotun]

did you read the rest of this thread?? cuz its mostly people asking for other people's opinions on musical gear/purchases.
All that fancy grammer happenning there, but you couldn't just give your opinion on the amp you ALSO had to be a cock.
kudos ballsack.

Shut the fuck up, man. He was saying that the best input you can get regarding buying an instrument is going to a shop and playing around on them in person.

Kudos, ballsack.

[Bman]

All that fancy grammer happenning there

COMMAS?! Cottin' Pickin' city folk -_-

[Shaft]

My new amp.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/BrandonGS/000_0309.jpg

[underrealm]

I agree on the RGT, although I like the ZR trem on the S way more than the Edge II. I just think that for a new guitar, the RGT is the better buy. You can always upgrade your trem later if you decide that you need to. Does it say what kind of EMG's are included? I didn't see whether they were active or passive.

[Shaft]

Can anyone give me advice on how to get a good "metal" tone? I've realized that I'm kinda ignorant on the subject while playing with my amp today.

[underrealm]

Is there any particular tone you're trying to emulate? What kind of amp/guitar/pickups are you using?

[BZM]

and for the record: the EX's definitely are cheap as hell.

[Shaft]

My amp and guitar are post #293. I guess I'm looking for a more death metal type of sound. It came with some book on how to do blues and jazz tones so I'm set on that, I think.

The onboard EQ thing is kinda intimidating for me. Mostly because I know jack shit about that stuff. So any advice on setting that up would be most appreciated, too.

[BZM]

Well, if you're going for a Suffo kind of sound, you're going to kill all the mids. ALL of them. That's essentially all that's important for that kind of sound. If you're planning to do that, make a "U" shape of your 6-band EQ on the right side of your amp. I always like to start EQ'ing by putting all of my amp's settings at 5 (or 12 o'clock, whichever you prefer) and then shaping the tone by adjusting each knob individually. And for the record, I LOATHE scooped mids, so I never do that - but with high gain, don't use too much mids or it will mud up the sound - just the same as with too little mids. Bass and treble are really up to a matter of taste and what sounds best with your particular instrument. Jacksons tend to be very treble-heavy guitars, what with their alder bodies and maple necks (and ebony fretboards on the higher-end models), so don't use TOO much treble on your amp, unless you're going for that old-school swedish buzzsaw tone (ENTOMBED, DISMEMBER).

All you have to remember to tackle the 6-band EQ is that the first two on the left correspond to your lows, the next two are your mids, and the final two are your highs.

If you need more advice, feel free to ask.

[Shaft]

Awesome, man. Thanks a lot.

[BZM]

I thought this was relevant to the gear thread, and to educate people less knowledgable about pickups on the subject of EMG's and my new dream pickups.

Yo.

Orkestra is right on about the Evolutions... very, very hot and responsive pickups. The only thing that isn't always a hit for me about them is that, because they're so hot and responsive, they're prone to feeding back and screaming like a goddamn banshee at high volumes - which is great if you're steve vai with your floyd in hand, but not great for extreme metallers. If you're curious, Matt from Decrepit Birth has one in his Jackson and swears by it.

But on EMG's and their tone/muddiness... you see... EMG's inherently have a scooped tone, because they're active and have a built in EQ, it allows the manufacturer to adjust the tone for whatever style of music the pickup is intended for - and with the EMG humbuckers, that style would of course be metal. They thought it would be common sense to scoop some of the mids out because that's what metal players do anyways, right? (LOL) That's part of the reason they sound sterile, other that than active electronics take out all the nuances and spikes in frequency response that makes passive pickups sound interesting and unique (even though this is what EMG literature claims make passive pickups obsolete technology and what makes the EMG's sterile, flat response the way of the future, HEH). The actual magnets and whatnot of the EMG pickups are actually very weak, the signal is like that intentionally so that microphonic noise and feedback are limited as much as possible, and then the signal is then amplified by the pickup's internal preamp before being sent to your actual amplifier (hence their claim to fame about being the quietest pickups around).

But I really was serious when I was going apeshit about Adder Plus pickups, SERIOUSLY. APC Persuaders - Best pickups for metal I have EVER heard, I'm doing everything in my power to save up and buy a set of these ever since I heard some sound clips from Mike Gilbert and the APC's in his SLSMG - they have the same CONCEPT as the EMG's in mind, that being very high output with very low noise and absolute clarity, but they have what the EMG's lack - TONE, AND TONS OF IT. They actually sound MUSICAL, and I honestly can't think of any other metal-oriented pickup that makes me think of that word - plus, they have FAR more balls than an 81 or 85, are completely passive and don't need batteries, and still have that same stealth look (very similar in appearance). My favorite thing about them, though, is that they have a load-balancing output to them - which means even with the gain to 11 you can SERIOUSLY hear every individual string, if you play a chord every single note rings out clearly even with unholy amounts of distortion. Oh, and they're $5 cheaper than EMG's, too. The only downer is you can pretty much only order them at APC's website (http://www.adderpluspickups.com/), but I know I certainly will be as soon as I have a proper metal axe!

http://i18.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/7b/a5/a0cb_12.JPG

[My Arms Your Hearse]

So pretty much every guitar with emgs sounds about the same, no matter how well the guitar was made? Or not quite?

Like...the emgs produce about the same sound on what ever they are in?

[BZM]

To some extent, yes. Throwing EMG's into, say, a Les Paul or PRS turns it from an LP or PRS into a guitar with EMG's. Another big part about passive pickups is that, as I adressed the point that due to their passive nature, they're not shielded like a fortress the way EMG's are. Another big reason for that shielding is to prevent microphonics. If you ever have a chance to have a loud amp and two guitars lying around, one with high-output passives in one and EMG's in the other, try plugging them in one at a time, and then yelling as loud as you can into the pickup itself. Chances are, you'll actually hear yourself coming through the speakers of the amplifier - try it with the EMG's, it'll happen to a much lesser extent (if at all, depends on the amp). Now here's the thing - the difference in tone between cheaper and more expensive guitars is the wood. You can think of it this way - the pickups are the microphone, and the wood is the singer, because that's where the timbre is coming from - the cellular makeup of the wood determines the quality and behavior of the vibrations created by picking the strings, as well as the construction and mass of it. When you have PASSIVE pickups, that little bit of microphonic quality is what pickups up the tone coloring from the woods of the guitar (remember, we are talking purely about tone here, not sustain or volume) - the EMG's start with weak magnets that are also shielded to prevent feedback, but in that, you also lose a bit of that color - and this absence is exacerbated even more greatly when it's the pickup's internal preamp deciding what the signal leaving your guitar will sound like, injecting the EMG's voicing into the weak signal, amplifying it, and then sending it off down the chain.

There are advantages to EMG's though, I mean - for players who have pedalboards with 20 or more stompboxes on them, that clear, sterile signal is a godsend. Save for true bypass pedals, every single thing your guitar has to go through will change your tone on the way even if the pedal is turned off... and very seldom is the change ever a good one. Eventually the sound reaches your amp sounding muddy or gross whenever you don't have all your pedals firing if you're using passive pickups - effects loops on amps help, but with vintage amps it's not always an option. That's why, for instance, David Gilmore plays EMG's, because of all the ridiculous vintage effects he has going on - he needs all the clarity he can get! The motto for EMG's really is garbage in, garbage out - if you plug them into crappy effects and a crappy amp, they're going to sound like crap - and those are the ONLY things that matter, the guitar they're in is pretty much irrelevant. That's why I say that EMG's can be a godsend for lower-end guitars that actually need their original tone covered UP (agathis-bodied LTD's, anyone?) but still play nice, they can benefit from EMG's active preamp. But when you have a guitar with lucious woods that are begging to be heard, you really want passives - otherwise, you're cheating yourself of so many niceties and sounds you may never experience without them. Also, they're great as training wheel pickups for improving your technique - although they're not microphonic, everything your STRINGS do will be picked up and amplified greatly by the internal preamp (which is why pinch harmonics wail so hard with EMG's - the weak, acoustic sound of them from the string is being boosted through the roof), and all of your mistakes and fuckups WILL be heard plainly. But that internal preamp and EQ makes sure that, even if you plug in with the beefiest of mid-heavy Les Pauls, you'll never be able to shake that slightly mid-scooped sound because the mahogany isn't doing the talking.

Sorry to write a novel on the subject, but hopefully that answers your question.

[Lungs and Limbs]

Hey guys,

I'm looking to record guitar tracks, I have an M-audio recording interface and Ableton Live music program. I'm not at all satisfied with the sound of recording directly through the M-audio interface, so I want to buy a solid mic to use for recording with my amp. I have a Fender Princeton 65 amp, and I'm playing mostly distorted guitar (metal) type stuff. Do any of you have any experience or knowlege on what the best mics are for the money? I'm looking in the $100-200 range.

So far, this Sennheiser E609 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sennheiser-E609-Silver-Dynamic-Guitar-Microphone?sku=276668) looks to me to be the best bet. Its in my price range and it has good customer reviews. Any advice or guidance on this would be appreciated. Thanks!

[BZM]

SHURE SM-57. No question. Or better yet, buy both and mic it stereo \m/

[Orkestra]

YOU LOT!

Post up your settings!!!

Here are mine:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7903/dsc078409fb.jpg

[Orkestra]

Oooo and heres my resurrected pedal board:


http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7886/dsc078315ws.jpg

ISP Decimator
Boss GE-7 EQ
Boss HR-2 Harmonist (IN FX LOOP)
Marshall Chorus
Boss SD-1
Budda Wah

[My Arms Your Hearse]

God, where do you people get money for all of this shit?

[Ergo_Sum]

i have a good job and I get bonus' these days

[Orkestra]

^ that was me... stoopid woman using my computer for this shit.

[My Arms Your Hearse]

ha.

I just happen to live with a roomate who can't keep a job and I drive my car WAY too much (i spend a lot on gas) I finally got a really nice guitar (ibanez sz series) but im stuck with a fender 212, which isnt a bad amp, it's just small.

[BZM]

way to not reply to my extremely comprehensive response, fucking asshole.

[My Arms Your Hearse]

Haha, hadn't realized.

anyway, I really am greatful for your response, I'm now considering a ton of pickups though. Any experience with a duncan sh6?

Oh, main question since I don't know much about pups, whats the difference between regular and f-spacing? Does that refer to wiring or something?

[Orkestra]

F = Spacing for a Trem such as a Floyd, the 'F' actually stands for 'Fender Spaced.'


SO if you have a trem, you'll need F spaced Pups

[My Arms Your Hearse]

oh ok, thanks. I don't have any trem. I DID have a fender standard strat, but sold it a couple years back

[My Arms Your Hearse]

http://a155.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/5/l_7840c41d87aed5cd28de0879bf91bc42.jpg

and

http://a912.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/20/l_2a598692289b887e81482391f28cff9f.jpg

Not my drummer, but my roomate.

Also, I have the coolest living room ever.

[Shaft]

I have the combo version of that Behringer stack.

[My Arms Your Hearse]

I just got that. Sounds so fucking sweet, ESP for the price

[Oh Noez!!]

QUESTION!

My snare is about as tight as I can make it, but it still doesnt sounds as tight and snappy as a lot of other snares ive played, would anyone know wtf im doing wrong?

[Jotun]

QUESTION!

My snare is about as tight as I can make it, but it still doesnt sounds as tight and snappy as a lot of other snares ive played, would anyone know wtf im doing wrong?

Are the snares themselves nice and tight? You can tighten the batter head until you're blue in the face but make sure the snares aren't loose...aside from that it would help to know which snare/heads you're using :P

[Stradale13]

I GOTSA A ROLAND TD3 LECTRONIC KIT. I AM VERY HAPPY!

PICS AND SAMPLES TO COME!

[Stradale13]

Are the snares themselves nice and tight? You can tighten the batter head until you're blue in the face but make sure the snares aren't loose...aside from that it would help to know which snare/heads you're using :P

Tightening the actual snares is a good idea, provided you don't OVER tighten them. Over tightening them will cause you lose of snare response at lower volumes and could cause you drum to feel like shit to play, so use caution.

[Oh Noez!!]

Are the snares themselves nice and tight? You can tighten the batter head until you're blue in the face but make sure the snares aren't loose...aside from that it would help to know which snare/heads you're using :P

Im using an Evans Genera 2 Batter head, the snares themsleves eh? ill have a try, as far as i can remember they are pretty tight them selves too, but illl see.

[Jotun]

Well, is the drum steel, brass, or some kind of wood?

Also, you might get a poppier sound if you try a 42-wire snare :D

[Oh Noez!!]

Itsa wooden snare, not sure what kind, didnt take interest when i was beginning and now i cant find any info about it, its the stock snare recieved with the Pearl Target series, yea I know they're not great drums.....and 42-wire snare eh?

[underrealm]

Does anyone know if the S1620 and S1625 are the only Japanese S Series guitars that employ both a ZR trem AND a Wizard I neck? I know Ibanez switched to the Wizard II when they started Korean production of the S Prestige in 2005, but what about before that?

[skin_blanketed]

I GOTSA A ROLAND TD3 LECTRONIC KIT. I AM VERY HAPPY!

PICS AND SAMPLES TO COME!
Where the fuck are these samples? I'm curious to see you play.

[Endless]

This has probably been covered numerous times, but what do you all think of Peavy 6505's? I'm looking for a tight but still heavy sound, for more technical playing, I don't stick to one place on the fretboard so I'm trying to find something with clarity and depth throughout the EQ. I'm playing an ESP M-11 with maple neck/SDuncans '59+JB/and alder body. Thanks for any advice in advance.

[underrealm]

This has probably been covered numerous times, but what do you all think of Peavy 6505's? I'm looking for a tight but still heavy sound, for more technical playing, I don't stick to one place on the fretboard so I'm trying to find something with clarity and depth throughout the EQ. I'm playing an ESP M-11 with maple neck/SDuncans '59+JB/and alder body. Thanks for any advice in advance.

I own a 6505 2x12, and I can't say I've ever been happier with an amplifier. However, the cleans could be cleaner, and the high EQ on the gain channel is like fingernails on a chalkboard if you try to use conventional metal settings. I actually pull my highs almost all the way off. Same with the mids, but I keep the bass cranked. I know that sounds retarded, but it sounds badass when you put a TubeScreamer in front of it.

[Stradale13]

Where the fuck are these samples? I'm curious to see you play.

I'll do some tomorrow, just trying a way to record directly into my computer.

[skin_blanketed]

Dude i just want to see the skills. I can recognize good/bad playing when i see it. ;-)

[teh Mazn]

yeah. i'm a stickler for technique with percussion. i'd like to see you play as well.

[Hoovooloo]

In the ways of a new head, I want something that can get pretty sludgy, but still get nice cleans. Pretty vague, but any suggestions would be cool.

[JakePeriphery]

In the ways of a new head, I want something that can get pretty sludgy, but still get nice cleans. Pretty vague, but any suggestions would be cool.

Dual Rectifier Trem-o-verb, the older the better.

[MountainMachine]

Peavey Valveking anyone?

[MountainMachine]

fucking never mind i'm getting a 5150 anyway.

[ten_second_infinity]

NICE

[DIYAK]

What would be the better product for direct in recording for guitars onto my PC?
The Pod XT or Vamp Pro?

[Jotun]

What would be the better product for direct in recording for guitars onto my PC?
The Pod XT or Vamp Pro?

What kind of results are you looking for?

[asthesunsets]

if you are looking for metal tones go with the vamp pro.

[Sudden Intoxication]

http://www.amazon.com/LightSnake-STUSBG10-USB-Instrument-cable/dp/B000H7LBB8/sr=8-1/qid=1171996944/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9231790-8950061?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

Anyone heard good or bad thigs about that^^ cable? I'm looking for the cheapest shit I can find to record with.

[swan]

Dual Rectifier Trem-o-verb, the older the better.

Yup....i have a '96 and it's sick. On a side note, I had a chance to play a VHT Ultralead yesterday and was really unimpressed...

[underrealm]

http://www.amazon.com/LightSnake-STUSBG10-USB-Instrument-cable/dp/B000H7LBB8/sr=8-1/qid=1171996944/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-9231790-8950061?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

Anyone heard good or bad thigs about that^^ cable? I'm looking for the cheapest shit I can find to record with.


If you're looking to take the cheapest route, I'm sure that cable would be just fine. Just keep in mind that USB connectivity is never going to be as good as sending a signal directly to your sound card.

[DIYAK]

What kind of results are you looking for?

Looking for something that is gonna give me some good direct-in death metal tone. Good effects and whatnot for solos are also a plus, but not really necessary. Isn't there a metal pack for the POD XT or somthing? I have a ENGL powerball, but I don't have that good of a soundcard or a good mic (Or experience recording guitars with a mic), so I was just looking for a good direct in approach. (Also somthing that will sound good that I can plug into my comp at night and jam with headphones.)

[MARKILLS]

Im rockin a Marshall Jcm 900 ,randall cab w/ jaguar speakers. Only pedal is a Zakk wlyde overdrive pedal Cause i like shit simple.
I play a Shecter Omen 7 and some sort of old washburn 7 string both w/ D'addario strings (various gauges). I use tultex .58 mm picks.

[Stradale13]

Just got a Peavey KB3 for my Roland drums and my keyboard. It was a steal as a slightly used with a complete warranty at $150. Sounds pretty good too.

[Cman]

Looking for something that is gonna give me some good direct-in death metal tone. Good effects and whatnot for solos are also a plus, but not really necessary. Isn't there a metal pack for the POD XT or somthing? I have a ENGL powerball, but I don't have that good of a soundcard or a good mic (Or experience recording guitars with a mic), so I was just looking for a good direct in approach. (Also somthing that will sound good that I can plug into my comp at night and jam with headphones.)

I've got the v-amp 2 and you can get some pretty good metal tones out of it and it has a good range of effects. It sounds really good through headphones too. (i don't work for behringer.)

my ibanez Rg1570 prestige

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t246/radiostillsucks/100_1439.jpg

[Cman]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t246/radiostillsucks/100_1440.jpg

sorry for the double post..

[Jotun]

Lefty, eh?

[Cman]

yes, it kills me a little inside :(

[Jotun]

Haha, it's really hard for me to imagine anybody playing guitar left handed....it just doesn't make sense. My friend plays bass left handed and I want to punch him in the fucking face when I see him play because it just looks wierd, haha.

[Cman]

i just got a usb-midi cord for my vamp-2 but i have no idea how, or what to record onto the computer with :s

[Sudden Intoxication]

The usb to midi connection will only be useful for uploading patches onto your vamp2, or manipulating the vamp2 settings from your PC. If you wanna record you need something that hooks up the lineout from your vamp2 to the computer. If your soundcard doesn't have a socket where you can plug in an instrument cable, and if you just wanna record for fun(not for serious bands or anything), I'd look into this (http://www.soundtech.com/lightsnake/index.asp). Works for me. Otherwise you'll need something a lot more expensive.

[Endless]

Hey anybody have an idea of how much a used Peavy 5150 combo should be? I was thinking 650-750 but they guy I'm buying from wants 850 canadian which I think is total bullshit. Thoughts?

[teh Mazn]

lol@canada

[Endless]

lol@canada

lol @ you, no canada is shit- I know

[teh Mazn]

haha. i want to deer hunt in saskatchewan someday though.

[Endless]

yeah that would be good times, better than the shithole I live in. If I do somehow end up staying in this country I'm tourin over to BC for sure.

[Jotun]

Winnipeg was fucking rad when I went there.

[ttiwguitar]

About to pick one of these up for $350 brand new. I've been borrowing it for a week or so and it sounds rad.

http://www.synergystore.com/media/images/product_detail/Framus-Dragon-4x12-Cabinet.jpg

[Jotun]

If you've been borrowing it for a week already, why don't you "borrow" it for a few more a.k.a. jump town with it and get away scot free.

[Endless]

If you've been borrowing it for a week already, why don't you "borrow" it for a few more a.k.a. jump town with it and get away scot free.

now that's thinking

[bobbydanger]

yeah that would be good times, better than the shithole I live in. If I do somehow end up staying in this country I'm tourin over to BC for sure.


i always hear cool stuff about canada. except this.

[Endless]

i always hear cool stuff about canada. except this.

well if you visited Sarnia you would not be impresed. this town is surrounded by fucking chemical plants, smells like shit 98.999999% of the time, has shitty schools, and is next to a polluted/piece-o-shit river. the natives that live right next to the river/chemvalley may have discovered a birth defect in which more girls are born than guys-it's fucked up shit. Canada is a sick place to live I guess, I love TO and London but would rather live in the states, or finland haha.

[ChrisSW]

My setup got surprisingly simple, and I'm diggin' my tone.

Right now I'm rocking a Marshall DSL100 through a 1960B cab. In my rack I'm just running a backup DTR1000, and Power conditioner. Pedal wise, I'm just rockin' a Boss DD3, NS-2, and TU-2. I'm going to pick up a Maxon Overdrive or Tube Screamer this week, along with a EH Reverb unit. I have two LTD EC400AT's, and some old Ibanez hollowbody with a Gibson Dirty Fingers in the bridge and a Duncan Jazz in the neck.

I'm into it.

For insane gear, check out August Burns Red. I played with them on Monday, and they have some serious shit.

[Hoovooloo]

What's the hollowbody sound like? I'm interested in getting one of those Ibanez jazzboxes.

[ChrisSW]

It's pretty rad, actually.

I only got it because somebody was selling it for crazy cheap, and it's technically brand new. Through my DSL it sounds great. Really Poison The Well-esque (You come before you style).

It's just a backup, but I'm thinking about busting it out on this next tour and seeing how it sounds in venues.

[Manwë]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/candravamsa/2caf_12_sb.jpg
UV777GR

There is a possiblity I might obtain this Weds.

[Stradale13]

Fuck dude that is pretty metuhll.

Go for it.

BTW what are the fretboard inlays?

[BZM]

they're pyramids

[Stradale13]

Sean you elitist prick, let someone else answer for once.

[Jotun]

The higher frets are just the bottom part of a pyramid and it builds up and father down the neck you go.

[JakePeriphery]

The higher frets are just the bottom part of a pyramid and it builds up and father down the neck you go.

ONOZ ITS MASONIC CONSPIRACY!

[teh Mazn]

LOL YA RLY!

teh maz0n

[JakePeriphery]

LOL YA RLY!

teh maz0n

lol! kewl name.

[Hoovooloo]

Anybody have any experience with Laney heads?

[Manwë]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/candravamsa/2caf_12_sb.jpg
UV777GR

There is a possiblity I might obtain this Weds.

It's fuckin' MINEEEE.

[mikeb]

NEW AMP! WOOOH!
http://www.freewebs.com/animusgp/ampeg%20002.jpg

[invadertim]

Anybody have any experience with Laney heads?

haha, this dude (who is now known as Mr. Laney) fucking swears by em dorect quote:"these things are touched by the hand of god"
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut, seriously, it was a solid state and it sounded damn good in his band, albeit the other guitar player had a dual rec. Threfor, if you in a band it'll be decent plus u can get em super cheap. but if you want something that sounds really good, I would have to say pass on the laneys.

[_treasonist_]

i need some info what pickups into a s1625fb? apcs or emgs

[Jarrott]

Manwe, you lucky bastard.

Treasonist, for a piece of art like the Prestige S1625FB I'd go for some nice boutique pickups like Bare Knuckle. I have some Bare Knuckle Warpig's in my Gibson SG and I can make some of the craziest harmonics [I can nail the harmonic from the intro of the Cemetary Gates cover by BTBAM].

Anybody have any experience with Laney heads?
They're killer, absolutely amazing. They have a lot of different models, so depending on what sort of tones you're going for, I can't really suggest much, though you can never go wrong with the VH and GH models.

[jamesb]

Anyone on hear familiar with telecasters? i'm looking at purchasing one in the future and wondered if there were any inparticular i should be looking at. (definitely want to keep under £500 also)

[nepoleon_solo]

Nice Mikeb. The bass player in the band I'm in has a really nice Eden setup. He plays the upright, but I borrowed it for a gig with a Mexican band and that thing sounded absolutely amazing.

[Hoovooloo]

Anyone on hear familiar with telecasters? i'm looking at purchasing one in the future and wondered if there were any inparticular i should be looking at. (definitely want to keep under £500 also)

I've had my 72 Deluxe for about a year now, and I'm very happy with it.

[Jarrott]

Anyone on hear familiar with telecasters? i'm looking at purchasing one in the future and wondered if there were any inparticular i should be looking at. (definitely want to keep under £500 also)

For £500 I'd suggest a Fender Standard Telecaster .

[deathmetaljunkie]

nice guitar

[extreme metal]

http://www.myspace.com/decripify
http://www.freewebs.com/extrememetal1/jacksoncharvel.jpg


http://www.myspace.com/1demogorgon
http://www.freewebs.com/extrememetal1/line6.jpg

[~~~]

Anyone have any suggestions for a bass cabinet? I really liked the Eden 4x10, but it's $1,400, but I'm wondering if anyone's got better/cheaper suggestions. I hear Aguilars and Accugroove is good, too.

(btw I'm getting a Nemesis NA320 head with it, if that helps. solid state 300ish watts @ 4 ohms)

[teh Mazn]

can never go wrong with ampeg.

[underrealm]

Back when I played bass, I had SWR cabs and a BASS 750. It totally destroyed anything within a few square blocks.

[BZM]

i need some info what pickups into a s1625fb? apcs or emgs

APC. Do it.

[ttiwguitar]

The updated rig.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/ttiwguitar/tehrig.jpg

JSX, Mesa and Framus 4x12
Ibanez S1625
Rocktron Hush, Boss Delay, EQ, and Tuner, and a Maxon OD808.

[jamesb]

damn ttiwguitar !

hows the Framus 4x12? been thinking about getting one for a while.

Also how is the JSX compared to the dual rec? (pretty sure you had that?) Quite interested in the JSX altogether.

I also have an od808 ! awesome pedal

[ttiwguitar]

damn ttiwguitar !

hows the Framus 4x12? been thinking about getting one for a while.

Also how is the JSX compared to the dual rec? (pretty sure you had that?) Quite interested in the JSX altogether.

I also have an od808 ! awesome pedal

I love my Framus cab man. It has a ton of low end, but it stays pretty tight at the same time. I'm probably going to end up getting rid of the Mesa 4x12 actually, the full stack is kind of overkill and the Framus gets the job done fine. I just got rid of the Dual Rectifier and got the JSX in today... I think it sounds killer. The Dual Rec was cool, but it's not the best amp for fast, tight riffs and it wasn't really suiting my tastes anymore. The JSX's Ultra channel is awesome for tight rhythm stuff, and I use the Crunch channel for leads... it's smooth as hell. Clean channel is tight too. I'd definitely recommend it... the OD808 goes awesome with it.

[Joe512]

What are some good acoustic guitars? I'm just looking for one that's not very pricey and that I could use for casual jam sessions.

[Jotun]

What are some good acoustic guitars? I'm just looking for one that's not very pricey and that I could use for casual jam sessions.

Epiphone EJ-200...awesome, HUGE sound. I could send you some stuff that my friend recorded using one.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-EJ200-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518650&src=3SOSWXXA

[teh Mazn]

get a $160 johnson. i have one and it sounds better than any $3000 gibson or martin. not kidding. i played every guitar in the store and this guitar had the best sound out of all of them. it was weird. i went in planning on spending like $900 on a good acoustic and only spent $160.

[Joe512]

get a $160 johnson. i have one and it sounds better than any $3000 gibson or martin. not kidding. i played every guitar in the store and this guitar had the best sound out of all of them. it was weird. i went in planning on spending like $900 on a good acoustic and only spent $160. Do you have a link to the guitar? $160 is around what I want to spend, just on a decent acoustic.

[Jotun]

Get the Esteban pack! :emot-LMAO

[ChrisSW]

If you want to buy a great acoustic, get a Cole Clark.

Best around, ahead of Taylor, Gibson, Martin, etc.

[teh Mazn]

any opinions on the LTD h-302? is it shitty?

[Silent-As-I-Am]

Heh, sorry to interupt the going convo but here is my drum set up:

I have a white sparkle Sonor Force3003 five piece set with

10x8,12x10,14x14 Toms
14x4.5 Snare
20x18 Kick

-All Toms have Evan's Hydraulics (yes...I know..tone killers...I'm not doing any recording with them though )
-Remo Emperor X on snare top, hazy Ambassador on snare bottom
-Evans EMAD bass drum batter, Aquarian resonator (whose name I can't remember)

For Cymbals :

A Zildjian New Beat High Hats
A Custom 16" Crash
World Percussion 18" China
Avedis Zildjian 20" Vintage Crash
A Zildjian 20" Projection Ride

Iron Cobra double bass pedal and hi-hat pedal

Mostly Tama Roadpro cymbals stands, all others are sonor stock gear with set.

[teh Mazn]

you're an idiot.

[skin_blanketed]

lol

[Toluene]

Heh, sorry to interupt the going convo but here is my drum set up:

I have a white sparkle Sonor Force3003 five piece set with

10x8,12x10,14x14 Toms
14x4.5 Snare
20x18 Kick

-All Toms have Evan's Hydraulics (yes...I know..tone killers...I'm not doing any recording with them though )
-Remo Emperor X on snare top, hazy Ambassador on snare bottom
-Evans EMAD bass drum batter, Aquarian resonator (whose name I can't remember)

For Cymbals :

A Zildjian New Beat High Hats
A Custom 16" Crash
World Percussion 18" China
Avedis Zildjian 20" Vintage Crash
A Zildjian 20" Projection Ride

Iron Cobra double bass pedal and hi-hat pedal

Mostly Tama Roadpro cymbals stands, all others are sonor stock gear with set.

I did some recording on a Sonor kit that the guy in the studio had hydaulics on. They actually sounded fine, even on the recordings. It especially helped on the 16x16 killing that ten minute long ringing.

I used to have a 20" Projection Ride. Awesome cymbal, and it makes an awesome crash/ride too. I don't know if the newer ones are the same, but mine had a killer bell.


Come to think of it, the guy in the studio had a weird way of deadening the bass drum. He left off the front head and put a piece of railroad track in the bass drum. literally. A 70-some peice of metal. It worked, and the thing sounded like a cannon. How the hell do you think of that though?

[dmlinger]

so i need some suggestions on tubes. my amp is in need of a re-tubing. both power and preamp tubes.

i play a peavey xxx head through a marshall 1960a cab. 6l6 power tubes and 12ax7 preamps. id like to get something that will help me get a good metal sound. granted the amp is full of gain, what do you guys reccomend or have experience with?

thoughts on jj 6l6 power tubes and their preamp tubes.

any help is aces.

[dmlinger]

p.s. id also like the tone to be tight and have more presence than the shitty svetlana tubes i have now are giving me.

[killshaun]

so i need some suggestions on tubes. my amp is in need of a re-tubing. both power and preamp tubes.

i play a peavey xxx head through a marshall 1960a cab. 6l6 power tubes and 12ax7 preamps. id like to get something that will help me get a good metal sound. granted the amp is full of gain, what do you guys reccomend or have experience with?

thoughts on jj 6l6 power tubes and their preamp tubes.

any help is aces.

I chucked some groovetube tubes in my 5150 II and JJ's preamp tubes and my tone changed heaps if that helps.

On another note, any Framus cobra owners here had their amps biased hotter? did it clear up most of the "fuzzy" tone

[AndyVengeance]

just bought a mesa boogie dual rectifier today
should have i gone with the engl or framus cobra?
comparisons?
also does anyone know which model of the sonic maximizer paul actually uses and what it does? and what and where does he use his delay for? tube screamer?

[ttiwguitar]

just bought a mesa boogie dual rectifier today
should have i gone with the engl or framus cobra?
comparisons?
also does anyone know which model of the sonic maximizer paul actually uses and what it does? and what and where does he use his delay for? tube screamer?

Paul doesn't use the Sonic Maximizer, I don't think it's even in his rack anymore. As far as comparisons between those amps... I don't have much experience with the Cobra, but I'd imagine ENGLs are quite a bit tighter sounding in general than a Dual Rec would be. It all depends on what kind of sound you're going for. Rectifiers can sound plenty tight with an OD pedal running in front though... I'd recommend a Maxon OD808 or an Ibanez TS9. You don't need to use it for distortion though... I run an OD808 in front of my JSX (and my Dual Rec, when I had one) with the slightest bit of gain added. It's more for just coloring the distortion and giving it definition.

[ttiwguitar]

so i need some suggestions on tubes. my amp is in need of a re-tubing. both power and preamp tubes.

i play a peavey xxx head through a marshall 1960a cab. 6l6 power tubes and 12ax7 preamps. id like to get something that will help me get a good metal sound. granted the amp is full of gain, what do you guys reccomend or have experience with?

thoughts on jj 6l6 power tubes and their preamp tubes.

any help is aces.

JJ tubes rule. Get some.

[teh Mazn]

just bought a mesa boogie dual rectifier today
should have i gone with the engl or framus cobra?
comparisons?
also does anyone know which model of the sonic maximizer paul actually uses and what it does? and what and where does he use his delay for? tube screamer?

just IMO you should have thought about this before you bought your dual rec. i'd take an engl over any other amp ever. i'll never forget how incredible the sound was when i heard shai hulud AND the red chord both play through ENGLs when i saw them last year. i almost shed a tear the tone was so awesome.

[bulb]

engl > mesa in mah book

[JakePeriphery]

engl > mesa in mah book

You wish.

[teh Mazn]

depends on the application i guess, but i just can't see mesa being better than ENGL.

[skin_blanketed]

You wish.
HEY! It's his book asshole!

[Amusia]

i hate my mesa. time for somethn new

[Jotun]

I would say Mesa is a better rock amp...it just has the right color for mid-gain rock stuff.

[teh Mazn]

every genre of music sounds shit ton better with a ridiculous amount of gain IMO

lol

ENGL FTW

but, DIEZELS FUCKING RULE

[Jotun]

every genre of music sounds shit ton better with a ridiculous amount of gain IMO

lol

ENGL FTW

but, DIEZELS FUCKING RULE

Fuckin tell me about it...Crazy overpriced but I played a VH4 last week and that thing crushes...again, perfect ballsy rock tone.

[Smallz]

Everyone does it...i know, but i really like the tone of my dual rec with a ts808 in front of it. If i could do it all over again though I would have just saved an ass load of money and bought a used 5150 on ebay like 5 years ago when i purchased the mesa. They weren't discontinued yet, and half stacks sold used on ebay for like 600 bucks. ENGLs and Bogners sound fucking amazing, but for the money i don't think anything beats a 5150. It will forever be one of my favorite amp tones.

[AndyVengeance]

i have the ibanez tubescreamer re-issue. are you saying i should use that with my lead distortion all the time?

[bulb]

Everyone does it...i know, but i really like the tone of my dual rec with a ts808 in front of it. If i could do it all over again though I would have just saved an ass load of money and bought a used 5150 on ebay like 5 years ago when i purchased the mesa. They weren't discontinued yet, and half stacks sold used on ebay for like 600 bucks. ENGLs and Bogners sound fucking amazing, but for the money i don't think anything beats a 5150. It will forever be one of my favorite amp tones.

the ts808 in front of the mesa is really the only way for it to get the sound i like...my biggest problem with the rectos is that the store bought ones all sound like ass, i found this out because Jake has an endorsee model, and it sounds, reacts, and plays completely differently from any recto i have played in a store. Its basically a different amp in the same shell. But yeah his recto kicks serious ass and fixes any issues i had with rectos in the first place, its not buzzy, its not farty, the eq works (GASP!), its tight (no im serious!), and the clean channel which normally sounds like ultra shit on a triple actually sounds damn godly! Its all warm and bluesy! go figure...but yeah i dont like that mesa seems to build their amps to two standards like that...

engls and bogners are in completely differnt categories, engls are well priced, bogners are way too fucking expensive for what you get but both companies make excellent products.
5150 is the cheapest nice sounding amp you can get especially when you get it used, i think i got my 5150II for 570 bucks, but i sold it as soon as i got my powerball cuz i just stopped playin it...

and as for diezels, at least for the sound i go for, i think they are terrible, they are horribly expensive and sound like they have a cheap compressor set on full all the time. it really fucks with your attack, but i guess for more open chords and stuff like that it would work better maybe...still there are way better amps for way less...

$.02

[TheFranMan]

the ts808 in front of the mesa is really the only way for it to get the sound i like...my biggest problem with the rectos is that the store bought ones all sound like ass, i found this out because Jake has an endorsee model, and it sounds, reacts, and plays completely differently from any recto i have played in a store. Its basically a different amp in the same shell. But yeah his recto kicks serious ass and fixes any issues i had with rectos in the first place, its not buzzy, its not farty, the eq works (GASP!), its tight (no im serious!), and the clean channel which normally sounds like ultra shit on a triple actually sounds damn godly! Its all warm and bluesy! go figure...but yeah i dont like that mesa seems to build their amps to two standards like that...

engls and bogners are in completely differnt categories, engls are well priced, bogners are way too fucking expensive for what you get but both companies make excellent products.
5150 is the cheapest nice sounding amp you can get especially when you get it used, i think i got my 5150II for 570 bucks, but i sold it as soon as i got my powerball cuz i just stopped playin it...

and as for diezels, at least for the sound i go for, i think they are terrible, they are horribly expensive and sound like they have a cheap compressor set on full all the time. it really fucks with your attack, but i guess for more open chords and stuff like that it would work better maybe...still there are way better amps for way less...

$.02

I'm looking at both the ENGL powerball and Savage, which is a little more. Do you know the main differences between them, aside from price? And also, which cabs do you think would be best with them? I've heard many good things about Vaders, but my guitar teacher recommended a builder from either MD or NC that uses some X pattern of speakers that supposedly sounds really good.

[bulb]

I'm looking at both the ENGL powerball and Savage, which is a little more. Do you know the main differences between them, aside from price? And also, which cabs do you think would be best with them? I've heard many good things about Vaders, but my guitar teacher recommended a builder from either MD or NC that uses some X pattern of speakers that supposedly sounds really good.

powerball is more djenty, some would call it more processed sounding. I love it though because its got that kinda crunch that no other amp seems to be able to create even though it seems they try. Very clean sounding distortion if that makes sense, and so much gain on tap, but never oversaturated (unlike the 5150 where gain after 5 or 6 becomes sludgy)
the savage is more raw and rockish. less djent, but nicer midrange to it, and a bit more dirty in the tone. Its honestly whichever sound you are after.
If you tend to dig mesas more, the savage is a bit more like mesa, whereas the powerball sounds like a clean, refined and tight 5150 that is already boosted with a tubescreamer.

as for cabs, i have heard mixed reviews about vaders, but since i have never tried one i cant say anything about them. Avatar does nice cheap cabs for under 500 bucks that sound nice, and you can get an X pattern in those, but my alltime favorite cab is the orange 4x12 cab with the vintage 30's in them. I have yet to play a better sounding cab than that one..

[dmlinger]

so i dropped the JJ preamp and power tubes in my XXX last week and the tone improved loads.

the bias was also set way low so i also opened that up. it's running hotter and clearer now. i'm stoked about it.

how do you guys feel about peavey XXX amp heads?
i got mine the first year (or second year) they came out. aparently they were built better then (better parts and over all build).

[TheFranMan]

powerball is more djenty, some would call it more processed sounding. I love it though because its got that kinda crunch that no other amp seems to be able to create even though it seems they try. Very clean sounding distortion if that makes sense, and so much gain on tap, but never oversaturated (unlike the 5150 where gain after 5 or 6 becomes sludgy)
the savage is more raw and rockish. less djent, but nicer midrange to it, and a bit more dirty in the tone. Its honestly whichever sound you are after.
If you tend to dig mesas more, the savage is a bit more like mesa, whereas the powerball sounds like a clean, refined and tight 5150 that is already boosted with a tubescreamer.

as for cabs, i have heard mixed reviews about vaders, but since i have never tried one i cant say anything about them. Avatar does nice cheap cabs for under 500 bucks that sound nice, and you can get an X pattern in those, but my alltime favorite cab is the orange 4x12 cab with the vintage 30's in them. I have yet to play a better sounding cab than that one..

So for a really tight sound, especially in the lowend, I take it the Powerball would be better? My playing style requires precicion in the amp, and my curent amp (Line 6 HD147 lol) really just doesn't bring about that tight end that I want. It just is a bit too processed and blarry at times (for lack of a better word).

As for cabs, I've heard really good things about the orange 4x12s too with those vintage 30's. How much do those usually go for?

[bulb]

yeah man if you need tight, you want the pball.
and then you especially want the orange cab, cuz i have that combo and its just so ultra tight even though the orange cab has some of the nicest lowend as well.
shame they are 939 for the cabs haha, but worth every penny and then some if you can afford it

[Smallz]

I guess I always thought Bogner and ENGL amps were in the same price range. My mistake. I know what they sound like, but I stopped paying attention to prices after buying my Mesa.

I just had a friend put down like a years savings on a Krankenstein. I tried SO hard to talk him out of it. Dudes like one of the biggest Pantera fans you'll meet (i am too) and he totally bought into the hype after Dime's death. I don't even think Abbott played through his revolution heads on those last Damageplan tours did he? Weren't they fakes with his trusty Randall rack backstage? Big case of "I told you so" with him though. Amp sounds like absolute ass and he's going to end up running the same distortion pedal through the "Klean" channel just like he did with his previous rig. Such a waste.

[teh Mazn]

what a fucking tool.

[bulb]

I guess I always thought Bogner and ENGL amps were in the same price range. My mistake. I know what they sound like, but I stopped paying attention to prices after buying my Mesa.

I just had a friend put down like a years savings on a Krankenstein. I tried SO hard to talk him out of it. Dudes like one of the biggest Pantera fans you'll meet (i am too) and he totally bought into the hype after Dime's death. I don't even think Abbott played through his revolution heads on those last Damageplan tours did he? Weren't they fakes with his trusty Randall rack backstage? Big case of "I told you so" with him though. Amp sounds like absolute ass and he's going to end up running the same distortion pedal through the "Klean" channel just like he did with his previous rig. Such a waste.

ouch, i spent a bit of time with one once, playin it thru a nice vht cab as well iirc, anyways i thought it sounded pretty assy until i tried it with a tubescreamer in front, then it sounded decent, but definitely not good enough to justify paying more than 700-800 bucks for it honestly, cuz you can do so much better for 1700 bucks man...

[Smallz]

We tried my TS808 in front of it but were having major feedback issues even with an ISP decimator at the end of the chain. We had to crank the threshold up to the point where leads and clean wouldn't ring out at all. I gave up after a while. He has been using a Zoom Trimetal to get his distortion for a couple years now and to be honest for a pedal I think it sounds pretty damn good. Compressed, but nothing as bad as like a Boss Metal Zone, and there's no tube warmth and for that reason I'd never use it, but I wouldn't call his tone bad.

[ttiwguitar]

The only person I've ever heard get a good tone out of a Krank is Andy Sneap.

[bulb]

and keep in mind he usually mixes them with rectos and uses them to add to the tone rather than create it if you know what i mean...

[AndyVengeance]

what kind of settings do you guys usually use on your ts808? on the dual rec?

[JakePeriphery]

Here's my settings:

TS9DX
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/enteriaagent/DSC07512.jpg

Mesa Triple Recto
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/enteriaagent/DSC07514.jpg

[bulb]

i think those are the settings i used in the video...

[killshaun]

how much does the tube screamer improve your tone?
im after something to use with my framus cobra im after something a little sharper

[ttiwguitar]

how much does the tube screamer improve your tone?
im after something to use with my framus cobra im after something a little sharper

A lot. It'll definitely tighten up your tone.

[underrealm]

I'm also a firm believe in the TubeScreamer's effectiveness. I use mine in front of my 6505 to keep it from sounding so "tinny". It totally evens out the bottoms and pulls the highs together for a much smoother sound. Here are the settings on my modded TS9:

http://www.geocities.com/mccabekyle/ts9_settings.jpg

[Reverend Ian]

Engl fireball. Whats it like and is it worth $1200 used but in perfect condition. Bare in mind that all engl stuff has to be shipped here and usually costs about $200 -$300 more than in the US.

[killshaun]

sweet, i think ill get my hands on a ts9

[Endless]

Engl fireball. Whats it like and is it worth $1200 used but in perfect condition. Bare in mind that all engl stuff has to be shipped here and usually costs about $200 -$300 more than in the US.

was wondering the same question, and if it's worth saving an extra 900 for a pball..my only fucking amp died a few days ago too, so pissed right now lol

[teh Mazn]

i ejaculate every time i hear an engl powerball.

[parabola5353]

do you guys put on the tube screamer on top of the clean or the dirty?

[JakePeriphery]

do you guys put on the tube screamer on top of the clean or the dirty?

It goes in front of the amp, but it goes off when I switch to clean.

[My Arms Your Hearse]

I want a powerball with an orange 4X12 really bad. In fact, I've been thinking about getting a 2nd job, and selling my 360 and games, just to save up for these.

[Jotun]

Every time somebody brings up Powerball+Orange 4x12 I just feel like the biggest fucking fool on the planet.

But it's aight, the amp I have now pwns.

[underrealm]

What kinda amp you got now, nig?

[JakePeriphery]

Every time somebody brings up Powerball+Orange 4x12 I just feel like the biggest fucking fool on the planet.

But it's aight, the amp I have now pwns.

lol, I make fun of Bulb's eyesore cab every chance I get.

[Jotun]

What kinda amp you got now, nig?


I got a Line 6 Vetta 2x12 combo...suits my needs perfectly. I have more drive to write music than ever before because I don't feel so constrained to a meat/potatoes rig and a delay pedal. You could spend an entire year running through everything the amp does, easily. The best part is how true to tube tone the amp is. It's solid state but I could easily mistake the tone I have on my Vetta for my old Marshall TSL's crunch channel.

http://a72.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/63/l_710686a428cf520ce277bbe050bf4cef.jpg

Also, I won an FBV4 Footswich on ebay for $55 and it arrived yesterday, making it even better :D

[Hoovooloo]

New amp:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/kaptainbiscuit/IMG_6079a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/kaptainbiscuit/IMG_6078a.jpg

New pedal: (Fuzz Factory)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/kaptainbiscuit/IMG_6080a.jpg

[My Arms Your Hearse]

Nice set up man!

[Jotun]

Yeah, that's gnarly..how's the avatar cab?

[Hoovooloo]

It's good. I like it a lot.

[AndyVengeance]

What would you guys recommend for a compressor
the mxr dynacomp?
a bbe?
the boss compression sustainer?

[My Arms Your Hearse]

I have the boss compression sustainer and it works very well and doesn't mess with your amps tone. But I haven't even tried the other two, so hopefully you will get more opinions on this.

[bulb]

keeley compressor easily pwns ANYTHING out there and makes the boss compressor i used to have sound like a toy, it aint cheap tho, but its worth every fuckin penny and then some, definitely one of the key ingredients of my rig and it ALWAYS stays on.

[Obswalq]

Could you guys recommend me a nice tube amp for around $600?

[prayerforazazelandme]

combo or head?

[Obswalq]

edit: head lol

[prayerforazazelandme]

Well I've heard good things about the Peavey Valveking - http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-ValveKing-212-Combo-Amp?sku=481443

But I would go with a DSL 401 - http://cgi.ebay.com/Marshall-JCM-2000-DSL-401-Amplifier-Combo_W0QQitemZ180145614265QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3807 5QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemor TSL 601 or 602 from Marshall - http://cgi.ebay.com/MARSHALL-TRIPLE-SUPER-LEAD-2x12-COMBO-JCM-2000-TSL602_W0QQitemZ220136973791QQihZ012QQcategoryZ380 75QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

But you also do a lot of creative stuff in Cayur, so you may be more inclined to get something like Ryan got, but then again, I don't know if his is tube.

[Incendius]

I have that Valveking. Its pretty good, but i also use a GT8 so

[Obswalq]

I just want something nice and cheap to get my band's EP recorded (not Cayur). That Valveking 212 Combo looks nice, but I was joking when I said combo, haha.

[Incendius]

they have it as a head too lol

[Obswalq]

LOL NO WAI

I guess I could save up a bit more and buy the head.

[Obswalq]

Alright, so this is what I'm going for:

Peavey ValveKing 100 Head

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-ValveKing-100-Head?sku=481170

Avatar G412 Traditional cab

http://www.avatarspeakers.com/

I'll have to save up and buy the cab later on, but that's cool with me. I mainly just want a nice amp to record with before I start playing shows.

[Jotun]

But you also do a lot of creative stuff in Cayur, so you may be more inclined to get something like Ryan got, but then again, I don't know if his is tube.

Nah man, the Vetta is solid state...BUT, it does emulate tube sound very well. It's not perfect, because it's impossible to get the tube dynamics without it being an actual tube amp, but it sounds great.

[MustangMan311]

Just thought I'd point out that Dan's using a Schecter Stiletto Deluxe-5 now.

[underrealm]

Just thought I'd point out that Dan's using a Schecter Stiletto Deluxe-5 now.


Looks like they all got "upgrades"... Dustie is rockin' the 2170 (hardly an upgrade, IMO), and Paul is rockin' his custom shop S Series.

[Brogen]

Looks like they all got "upgrades"... Dustie is rockin' the 2170 (hardly an upgrade, IMO), and Paul is rockin' his custom shop S Series.

dustys new guitar is the fuckin shittt. well at least the one he played when i saw them.

[ttiwguitar]

Dustie looked like he was playing his old S1625 with the Bubinga top in Richmond, but he got it refinished in solid black... I could tell it was a 1625 by the neck inlay. I think I remember him saying something about refinishing it on here. He also had some sweet yellow and white tape and David Bowie stickers on it, haha. And it looked like Paul was just using an S2170, not his custom.

[AndyVengeance]

okay, the line six delay modeler. anything especially special about this, other than the boss dd6?

[Jotun]

okay, the line six delay modeler. anything especially special about this, other than the boss dd6?

First of all, you can loop shit. That's reason enough to buy it in the first place. Also, it's much more than a simple delay pedal, you can create some pretty neat sounds with it.

I have a DD6 and it rules...but if you're willing to fork out the extra dough, get the Line 6.

[AndyVengeance]

i purchased it, and was going to guitar center to try it out. don't know why i bought it already. :-\ but was just trying to get some opinions. sounds good. thanks.

[scum]

i'm a poor mother fucker, i'm finally upgrading soon though (had the same drumset 5 years) so i'll post my shit then.

My band just got an e-kit though, so i'll at least post my skillz soon

[BZM]

i'm a poor mother fucker, i'm finally upgrading soon though (had the same drumset 5 years) so i'll post my shit then.

My band just got an e-kit though, so i'll at least post my skillz soon

Infecting the Crypts. Do it.

[Incendius]

My new piece:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/ZEROTHOMAS/IMG_0128.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/ZEROTHOMAS/IMG_0129.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/ZEROTHOMAS/IMG_0130.jpg

[Jotun]

God damn! That´s amazing man...put some Lundgrens in it, haha.

[Reverend Ian]

whats up with no neck pickup? ..... or the neck pickup not being at the neck?

[Manwë]

My new piece:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/ZEROTHOMAS/IMG_0128.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/ZEROTHOMAS/IMG_0129.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/ZEROTHOMAS/IMG_0130.jpg

Shit man, that was the next guitar I was planning on getting once I had the moola.

[Incendius]

God damn! That´s amazing man...put some Lundgrens in it, haha.


yeah that was my plan when i can work up some more cash. Should be pretty beastly

[underrealm]

Shit, that thing already IS beastly. Nice axe, man. One day, I'll upload some pics of my guitars. Nothing too special, though.

[scum]

Infecting the Crypts. Do it.

i was actually gonna do graves of the fathers instead, so fun to play

[bulb]

yeah that was my plan when i can work up some more cash. Should be pretty beastly

thing that sucks is that the lundgrens are gonna look kinda bad because those emg's are considerably bigger, so as long as you dont mind that, go for it, you wont look back!

[Incendius]

thing that sucks is that the lundgrens are gonna look kinda bad because those emg's are considerably bigger, so as long as you dont mind that, go for it, you wont look back!

yeah i was kinda curious about that. Maybe there is some sort of different housing for them? idk

[bulb]

nah man its the one thing that sucks about 7 string emgs, if you switch em out for just about anything else, it will look terrible, its possible someone makes covers but i have never seen em

[Incendius]

Yhea thats pretty homo. Im happy for now though with the EMGs tbh. The Lundgrens would be awesome but i dont really want the focal point of the guitar to be a something as stupid as that. I guess ill stick with EMGs. Thanks for the heads up :)

[bulb]

no prob bob

[AndyVengeance]

wonder if anyone knows why my mesa dual rectifier just went from sounding beastly to sounding like a muffled peice of shit?

[JakePeriphery]

wonder if anyone knows why my mesa dual rectifier just went from sounding beastly to sounding like a muffled peice of shit?

tubes?

[AndyVengeance]

yeah i dont know, maybe its cause i havent been really cranking it. shouldnt be though. ive been using the 6l6s, but put my bbe sonic maximizer back in my rig and then when i turned it off aka, decided i didnt want the fake plastic compressed tone is produces anymore, it just wasnt the same. maybe my shitty cab, running my tuner through the effects loops, a bad cable? just not sure. but it sounded fine before i used the bbe. hm.

[JakePeriphery]

yeah i dont know, maybe its cause i havent been really cranking it. shouldnt be though. ive been using the 6l6s, but put my bbe sonic maximizer back in my rig and then when i turned it off aka, decided i didnt want the fake plastic compressed tone is produces anymore, it just wasnt the same. maybe my shitty cab, running my tuner through the effects loops, a bad cable? just not sure. but it sounded fine before i used the bbe. hm.

Sonic maximizer sucks. Don't run your tuner in the loop. Test all your cables one by one.

[AndyVengeance]

everything looks good. i tried eqing for like an hour. i guess ill just try to make things sound right with the bbe :emot-fail

[bulb]

use bbe if you want to sound awesome in your bedroom and sound like white noise and bassy farts in a live situation

[AndyVengeance]

so true
it's kind of as when you use it you think it sounds good in your bedroom, and then when you turn it off, what would sound good loud sounds like shit.
so yeah after cranking my amp for about an hour and messing around with it
things sound the same again
anyone want to buy a sonic maximizer? :))
now i'm only down to a power conditioner and a tuner in the rackmount department
i feel like i'm selling all my equipment

[MustangMan311]

So I bought a used Gallien-Krueger 720RB last Monday. The bassist of Classic Case used to own it and used it on their first album.

I don't have a cab, though. But it was $240, so I'm pretty happy. Haha.

[fatalerror]

I have a quick question for someone who know anything about Mesa speakers. I bought a used Mesa cab and head (single rectifier) in 2005 and the cab is a halfstack with one Black Shadow Celestion speaker that's 90 watts. If I'm not mistaken, this type of speaker was prevalent moreso in the 90's and such and is not so easily found today. I was wondering how much it might be worth as I'm thinking about upgrading my cab. Thanks in advance.

[dmlinger]

i just googled the speakers and i came across this

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/msg/415872296.html

4x12 cab is going for $400
im guessing it would go for around 250-300

[fatalerror]

i just googled the speakers and i came across this

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/msg/415872296.html

4x12 cab is going for $400
im guessing it would go for around 250-300

Yeah I saw that, but it looks like he's just trying to get rid of it and might be selling it for under it's value; thanks for the input.

[each uisge]

I play one of these.
http://www.fender.com/products/prod_images/guitars/0262000561_xl.jpg

And all I have is a tiny Crate practice amp.

[dmlinger]

so www.musiciansfriend.com carries, from what i can tell, all of Engl's products. heads, preamps, power amps, cabs, combo amps, foot controllers.

just thought i'd throw that out there since i know some of you are into their products.