Decrepit Birth Gear

[shroudofimpurity]

Some of you have been asking about what gear we use, so here is a picture of our gear in our jam room:
http://deprecated.deathmetal.com/magic-linkage-folder/decrepitbirth/decrepit_gear.jpg

Matt uses:
Digitech GSP 21 Legend guitar preamp
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
Alesis MEQ 230 stereo EQ
Alesis RA Power Amp
Marshall 4x12 cabs (75 watt Celestions)
Dean Markley Blue Steel Strings ONLY!!!
Charvel guitar with custom 18 volt active pick-up system
B.C. Rich N.J. Warlock

Mike uses:
Boss GX-700 guitar preamp
DBX 1215 stereo EQ
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
DBX 1066 Compressor Limiter Gate
Carvin DCM 600 watt Power Amp
Marshall 4x12 cabs (75 watt Celestions)
Custom Ibanez S. with EMG active pickup

Risha uses:
Sans Amp Bass DI
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
Samson 1400 watt Power Amp
SWR Megoliath 8x10 Bass cab
Custom Tobias 4 string bass

We also have a nice fat black double bass Pearl kit in the room, just waiting!!!

[ChaosDeathkult]

I like your rack, Matt. (That just sounds so wrong.)

What does Mike think of the Carvin power amp? I just got $10,000 on saturday from my life insurance company and I want to get a rackmounted Mesa Boogie triple rectifier and QSC or Carvin power amp. What do you prefer?

I should totally do a full blown Mesa setup.
Nice pic though bro, a lot of sexy stuff there.

[Diamaton]

Originally posted by shroudofimpurity
Some of you have been asking about what gear we use, so here is a picture of our gear in our jam room:
http://deprecated.deathmetal.com/magic-linkage-folder/decrepitbirth/decrepit_gear.jpg

Matt uses:
Digitech GSP 21 Legend guitar preamp
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
Alesis MEQ 230 stereo EQ
Alesis RA Power Amp
Marshall 4x12 cabs (75 watt Celestions)
Dean Markley Blue Steel Strings ONLY!!!
Charvel guitar with custom 18 volt active pick-up system
B.C. Rich N.J. Warlock

Mike uses:
Boss GX-700 guitar preamp
DBX 1215 stereo EQ
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
DBX 1066 Compressor Limiter Gate
Carvin DCM 600 watt Power Amp
Marshall 4x12 cabs (75 watt Celestions)
Custom Ibanez S. with EMG active pickup

Risha uses:
Sans Amp Bass DI
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
Samson 1400 watt Power Amp
SWR Megoliath 8x10 Bass cab
Custom Tobias 4 string bass

We also have a nice fat black double bass Pearl kit in the room, just waiting!!!


haha..that's me Matt !!! damn...I need more money to buy those gears...I will keep the pic and put it on my Rottrevore Mags issue#6 on Decrepit Birth interview with Bill. All the Indo sick fuk will cries seeing the pic...hahaha, I'm using POD Pro for the pre amp.
Okay...thanks bro !!!

[ChaosDeathkult]

I never got a good sound out of the POD Pro XT. In my opinion, it's not for death metal. It produces a hollow sound.

[Diamaton]

Originally posted by ChaosDeathkult
I never got a good sound out of the POD Pro XT. In my opinion, it's not for death metal. It produces a hollow sound.

I use Line6 POD PRO, the XT is a new one (is it the color is black ?)... never try it but I really curious...

[ChaosDeathkult]

The black one is the bass POD.

[DistantMind]

Originally posted by ChaosDeathkult
I like your rack, Matt. (That just sounds so wrong.)

What does Mike think of the Carvin power amp? I just got $10,000 on saturday from my life insurance company and I want to get a rackmounted Mesa Boogie triple rectifier and QSC or Carvin power amp. What do you prefer?

I should totally do a full blown Mesa setup.
Nice pic though bro, a lot of sexy stuff there.

Those Mesa cabs are SICK! but ask shroud about those triple rectifiers before you buy.
I know mike swears by his Carvin, but I plan on getting a QSC for my rig (and a new preamp), the Samson will probably go to the P.A.

[ChaosDeathkult]

Yeah I just got home yesterday after spending exactly $1,128.00 at Guitar Center.
I wanted a new guitar, but on the way there I decided I needed a rack upgrade.

I got a Shecter Classic for $390 ($699.99 guitar!)
QSC PLX 1602 power amp for $400
BBE dual channel sonic maximizer 882i for $110
Furman PL Plus power conditioner w/ voltage reader for $100
I got the guy to sell me a hardshell case for $80, it was $130.

I got all that and walked out the door only paying $1,128.00.
The guitar and power amp alone at retail is $1200 without tax. I just walked in there, told a guy what I wanted, and that I wanted a good deal on these items and I wanted to get the hell out of there, he was all in shock and then got me huge ass deals.

So, no Mesa for me. I still have $9,000 left, but that's for things I NEED, then put the rest away.

[INCINERATION]

Originally posted by ChaosDeathkult
Yeah I just got home yesterday after spending exactly $1,128.00 at Guitar Center.
I wanted a new guitar, but on the way there I decided I needed a rack upgrade.

I got a Shecter Classic for $390 ($699.99 guitar!)
QSC PLX 1602 power amp for $400
BBE dual channel sonic maximizer 882i for $110
Furman PL Plus power conditioner w/ voltage reader for $100
I got the guy to sell me a hardshell case for $80, it was $130.

I got all that and walked out the door only paying $1,128.00.
The guitar and power amp alone at retail is $1200 without tax. I just walked in there, told a guy what I wanted, and that I wanted a good deal on these items and I wanted to get the hell out of there, he was all in shock and then got me huge ass deals.

So, no Mesa for me. I still have $9,000 left, but that's for things I NEED, then put the rest away.

thats a fucking steal dude!

[INCINERATION]

Killer jam room matt!

[ChaosDeathkult]

Originally posted by INCINERATION
thats a fucking steal dude!

Yeah dude, I know! a $700 guitar for $390?? c'mon!

[LIGATURE]

a full mesa setup would be killer but i gotta say i havent found anything that runs my stack better than the carvin i have nothing but good things to say about it and the power is optimall for marshalls 300 watt cabs

[sermon]

when did you get the drums matt?They new?

[PiercedFromWithin]

Mike how do you like that boss preamp ?

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by sermon
when did you get the drums matt?They new?

they mainly belong to our other guitarist. I had a kit but I had to sell the shells, I still have the rack and cymbals and my pedals and triggers.

[Jack]

not too shabby
whats all that gear worth?

[SpiritCrusher]

And what for the voice ? (mics, etc.)

[Diamaton]

Hey Matt... I think you should have a website for the studio, many dudes here interest to your works including me.

:D :D

By the way, I need a preamp that have a huge fat sound, do u guys have any recommendation for me what gear should I have ?
Thanks

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by SpiritCrusher
And what for the voice ? (mics, etc.)

a shure SM-58(mic) in to our "decent" pa system.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Diamaton
Hey Matt... I think you should have a website for the studio, many dudes here interest to your works including me.

:D :D

By the way, I need a preamp that have a huge fat sound, do u guys have any recommendation for me what gear should I have ?
Thanks

I do have a website I'm working on for my studio, I should have it up soon. I'll put up a link as soon as It's up!

as for a pre-amp, hummm... This is tough because everyone wants something different from their tone. I really like the Lee Jackson Ampeg heads that Terrance from Suffocation uses. I'm kinda in the market for something new myself. I gotta start checking some new stuff out. I really wish my tone had a bit more note definition.

[ChaosDeathkult]

You should hear my sound now Matt, it's insane. I use a Chameleon 2000 to a QSC PLX 1602 1600 watt power amp. But of course with the help of my BBE 482i sonic maximizer, it surely does the trick dude. Try a similiar setup sometime.
I'm looking to get a nice Line 6 4 12" cab. Maybe 2.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by ChaosDeathkult
You should hear my sound now Matt, it's insane. I use a Chameleon 2000 to a QSC PLX 1602 1600 watt power amp. But of course with the help of my BBE 482i sonic maximizer, it surely does the trick dude. Try a similiar setup sometime.
I'm looking to get a nice Line 6 4 12" cab. Maybe 2.

yeah sounds good bro! I'm interested in how the Rocktron sounds. However I'm all about the Marshall cabs "B" only, with the 75 watt Celestions.

[ChaosDeathkult]

I never liked Marshall cabinets in studio, live is okay, and I adsolutely will never use Marshall heads. I don't really have a set decision on what to use as far as cabinets, haven't explored enough and long enough yet. But yeah check out that Chameleon, it has DTR (Dynamic Tube Replication) which helps out a lot.
http://www.rocktron.com/products/chameleon2k.html

It's not that much either.

http://search.ebay.com/Chameleon-2000_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8

I don't see it on MusiciansFriend or AMS or anything, I'm pretty sure they stopped makin' them. But hey, if you rob a bank, you can get this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=040621022142066229146066552049/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/180745/

I want to get it someday. It's BAD! I will always prefer Rocktron processors though. And please don't ever get a POD Pro XT, it produces the most hollow-ist thin sound there is. It's not for metal.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by ChaosDeathkult
I never liked Marshall cabinets in studio

and how many times have you been in the studio???

hahahaha, just kidding dude...

[ChaosDeathkult]

My old band, recorded 4 demos and one album. I did guitar tracks for a lot of gay metal bands that wanted me to use Marshall cabs, I prefered my own rig. And my cheesy band Volatile that got nowhere, the idiot that recorded us insisted that I use my rack through the board, I said I hate that, then he gave me a Marshall cab to run through, said no. I never get a clear sound out of them anyway.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by ChaosDeathkult
My old band, recorded 4 demos and one album. I did guitar tracks for a lot of gay metal bands

dude, you never told me about that, what kind of music? You got any tracks I can hear?

[ChaosDeathkult]

Yeah, I was in Tchildres for a long time. I have tracks. It was just really fast death metal with annoying vocals, and constant blast beats. Nothing special. It was with the drummer from Volatile. They're still going today but Brett as you know doesn't like death metal so it's not really his thing. He quit Volatile because he doesn't like death metal and there's no money in it, but he also said "Tchildres isn't death metal.....it's just .....fast." That's where I finally found out that he has no brains. Anyway, get on Yahoo, MSN or AIM, I'll send you the album.

[Diamaton]

Yeah...sharing info about the gears always exciting me...do u guys have try Randall RS412W cab ? and how much the price for BBE 482i sonic maximizer ?

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Diamaton
Yeah...sharing info about the gears always exciting me...do u guys have try Randall RS412W cab ? and how much the price for BBE 482i sonic maximizer ?

I have had a few Randall cabs, not bad at all. I'd still rather stick with the standard Marshall 4x12. Allthough, I wonder how those Vader cabs that Suffo is using now sound? I've had a few BBE Sonic Maximizers, the 482 I have now, I paid $100 bucks used, in perfect condition. The sonic maximizer is a "must have" item for me.

[Jack]

Originally posted by shroudofimpurity
I have had a few Randall cabs, not bad at all. I'd still rather stick with the standard Marshall 4x12. Allthough, I wonder how those Vader cabs that Suffo is using now sound? I've had a few BBE Sonic Maximizers, the 482 I have now, I paid $100 bucks used, in perfect condition. The sonic maximizer is a "must have" item for me.
why's that? what does a sonic maximizer actually do?
thanks

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Jack
why's that? what does a sonic maximizer actually do?
thanks

The results are amazing from a sonic maximizer. It's the cheapest, best mod to your rig wether you play bass, guitar, and even works great on triggered drums. all I can say is get one! Just a huge boost in everything that is sweet in your tone!

[LIGATURE]

the boss guitar processor is great i love it!!! to be honest though it actually has a lot of stuff that i never use such as speaker emulators which are great though if you only have a little practice amp and want to get a big fat tone but if you are all ready running a marshal stack its kinda pointless. it does so everything you could ever want in a proccesor though so i say its definently up there with the best of the best. the only complaint i have is the compressor is pretty crappy hardly does anything. SONIC MAXIMIZERS ARE THE SINGLE MOST ESSENTIAL PIECE OF GEAR YOU COULD EVER OWN!!!!!!!!! except for a guitar and an amp and distortion pedal

[Bruton]

Matt,

I just got a GSP-21 legend recently. If you don't mind, and I know it has a ton of configurable options, what settings are you using? I would think that the BBE and EQ is what's really helping to make your sound though.

Thanks...

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Bruton
Matt,

I just got a GSP-21 legend recently. If you don't mind, and I know it has a ton of configurable options, what settings are you using? I would think that the BBE and EQ is what's really helping to make your sound though.

Thanks...

DUDE!!!! CONGRATS!!! Yes, I too use the GSP-21 Legend. I've had it for about 8 years, and I must say I fuckin love it. Are you looking for a heavy, brutal tone? I'm going out to the jam room tonight so if you want my presets, I'll write em down and post em for ya. Although, adding the BBE Sonic Maximizer is a MUST! A good EQ will help as well. Hey, I also have some good presets for solos if you want those too. Killer man, get the BBE, you wont be let down!!!

[Bruton]

Originally posted by shroudofimpurity
DUDE!!!! CONGRATS!!! Yes, I too use the GSP-21 Legend. I've had it for about 8 years, and I must say I fuckin love it. Are you looking for a heavy, brutal tone? I'm going out to the jam room tonight so if you want my presets, I'll write em down and post em for ya. Although, adding the BBE Sonic Maximizer is a MUST! A good EQ will help as well. Hey, I also have some good presets for solos if you want those too. Killer man, get the BBE, you wont be let down!!!

Well of course I'm looking for a heavy, brutal tone! ;) I've only had it for three days, and I got the Legend mainly because I wanted a pretty decent multi-effects/lead guitar unit. When I read that you had one, I figured I could get a good, heavy tone from it too.

I've been using a Peavey Supreme 160 head (and I love it). Right now, when I use the Legend as a preamp, I run it into the return of the 160, using the 160 as a power amp. So far, I'm a bit disappointed in the distorted sound. Of course, an EQ and BBE unit would help.

Using my amp's distortion and the Legend in the effects loops with its preamp off, I'm more than happy with the effects from the unit. Anyway, I'd be more than happy with whatever info you can provide for me.

[shroudofimpurity]

Bruton- hey do you mind if I ask how much you paid for your Legend?

[Bruton]

No problem, $139 from some place in Iowa called Uncle Ikes Music. Came with the foot controller too. I also got a Behringer V-Amp pro (the rack mount version) for $139 there as well.

[Bruton]

Not a problem, its not like its a life and death situation. ;) I'm getting more accustomed to the GSP21 now. Still haven't gotten a real good eq for it yet as I'm using an old 7-band DOD FX40. The DOD does make it sound better, but I need more control over the frequency bands. Anyway, I appreciate what your doing.

[crispykid88]

1. im quit confused now, power amps are just like having a head but in a rackmount form right? or do they boost the power to the amp itself kind of like PA power amps?


2. what exactly does a sonic maximizer do, ive been hearing mucho good things about them?


i sound like i know absolutly nothing but ive never had the money to buy crazy amounts of gear so ive always been more about the playing.

[LIGATURE]

sonic maximizers are cheap and it can not really be explained as to what they do exacticaly exept that they litteraly maximize your tone!!!! you need one! you have to have one! get one now!!!!!!!!! rack mount power amps get more power but alot of people like the sound and tone of heads better. personaly i believe for super distorted metal there isnt really very much difference in head tone so go for a rack mount power amp like carvin dcm-600 plent of power and plenty of overhead room to crush

[crispykid88]

so its pretty much like a head in a rackmount form. i'll have to look into a sonic maximizer once i get a cab and get my head fixed. i hope they dont cause more feedback, i have a noise gate but the less feedback the better.

[crispykid88]

does it matter what kind of sonic maximizer it is? i seen 3 different kinds one was like 79$ is that one any good?

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by crispykid88
does it matter what kind of sonic maximizer it is? i seen 3 different kinds one was like 79$ is that one any good?

Get the 482 or 882 sonic maximizer. BTW, its NOT like a head in a reackmount. Its not a preamp, its more of a tone booster. But get one and run it in your setup, you wont be disapointed!

[crispykid88]

i knwo its no like a had i was just a bit confused before about rackmount pre amps and everything. i'll deffenitly have to look into getting one first i need to get my head fixed.

[NRWDM_Markus]

Is the BBE Sonic Maximizer 462 any good?

And would it be useful to run it in an effect loop in combination with a Rocktron Intellifex?

Here's my gear:

http://www.innerfear.com/exposedguts/images/my_gear_001.jpg

I just got an Intellifex and may add a 19" racktuner when I have the money, but since a new guitar is on order and I'm looking forward to record my 2nd CD this will take some time.

[ChAAPY]

can someone please tell me what the hell a sonic maximizer is and looks like? I have a PEAVY XXL head that's 100 watts but I don't like the distortionit brings out so I use my BOSS METAL ZONE pedal. But when I'm not playing and the Master Volume is on like 7 I get "ssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh" noise and its cause of my pedal cause when I click it off it goes away. does a Sonic Maximizer like give you more power (ie, more watts to your amp kind of effect, say you have a 100 watt head and you add the maximizer boost, would it sound like you have 125 watts then?) Is this Sonic Maximizer you speak of Matt a pedal or a rack? Is it easy to find in your local Music Shops. Also, does Decrepit Birth use distortion pedals or tube distortion, or is that fuckin Sonic Maximizer a pedal or rack with a foot switch. PLEASE HELP!!!! I want to get a crushing sound from my Ibanez which is tuned to D standard (D,G,C,F,A,D) but I dont want to have to buy a noise gate to get rid of that static my BOSS distortion pedal gives me. If I get a Sonic Maximizer can I toss out my distortion pedal and use that, meaning again is the Sonic Maximizer like a pedal but with different tones you can select through or create your own? cause right now I have too select the clean channel for my PEAVY XXL and all it has for EQ's is one switch for each of these, Lows, Mids, Highs and then a Volume control for those then a Master Volume. Then when I use my pedal I get that fuckin static shit, I've tried turning down the level of distortion on my pedal but then I have to turn up my Masters Volume to like 9 and I don't want to blow the speakers cause I'm using a very old Fender cabinet that has 2 big speakers in it. from what I understand the sound you get all comes from the head and not the cabs so I know it's not them that make my sound less "brutal" or could it be I just don't have a powerful enough head? 100 watts to go over our drummer who has a small PA he uses to get his triggers out and he triggers all his toms, both bass pedals, and snare. any help on this would be greatly appreciated. thanks

[Trauma]

Hey Chap
First, the BBE maximizer is on a rack format. Just check BBE's website to see the maximizer.
This is an "effect". It dynamizes the bass frequencies and you feel them very clearer.
I just bought mine last week but don't have found the great sound yet
So: there's no distortion with it, no noise reduction.

Then, i know that Peavey amps make a lot of noise ( i have one for 10 years). The XXL one is a transistor one, it may don't have enough power to play without noise, i don't know.
The guitar sound comes from the head, for sure, but the cab is very important. First: the preamp, then, the Cab and finally the Poweramp (i don't put the guitar and the hand in this chain of performances)
I you have a Mesa, VHT, Bogner, Engl cab with celestion Vintage 30 in, i believe the sound will change a lot.

For a brutal sound ( i'm not en expert but..) make sure your guitar pickups have enough gain (EMG 81 ones for exemple). Than, your preamp must have enough gain too. The equalisation is very important to sound brutal. But you have to build your sound including the bass frequencies and the drum frequencies.
It's not easy and that's why i hava a crappy sound :)

Good Luck. I hope i have helped you but i don't think i've answered exactly your question

[ChAAPY]

Originally posted by Trauma
Hey Chap
First, the BBE maximizer is on a rack format. Just check BBE's website to see the maximizer.
This is an "effect". It dynamizes the bass frequencies and you feel them very clearer.
I just bought mine last week but don't have found the great sound yet
So: there's no distortion with it, no noise reduction.

Then, i know that Peavey amps make a lot of noise ( i have one for 10 years). The XXL one is a transistor one, it may don't have enough power to play without noise, i don't know.
The guitar sound comes from the head, for sure, but the cab is very important. First: the preamp, then, the Cab and finally the Poweramp (i don't put the guitar and the hand in this chain of performances)
I you have a Mesa, VHT, Bogner, Engl cab with celestion Vintage 30 in, i believe the sound will change a lot.

For a brutal sound ( i'm not en expert but..) make sure your guitar pickups have enough gain (EMG 81 ones for exemple). Than, your preamp must have enough gain too. The equalisation is very important to sound brutal. But you have to build your sound including the bass frequencies and the drum frequencies.
It's not easy and that's why i hava a crappy sound :)

Good Luck. I hope i have helped you but i don't think i've answered exactly your question

I'm gear stupid so what' s a preamp? is it a good addition? should I get one and how much are they? best one to get too? please tell me your not saying the PEAVY XXL is a shitty head cause I shelled out $530 for it and I can't afford to pawn it and get a new head. I will one day but for now I have to deal with the PEAVY XXL 100 Watt with my BOSS METAL ZONE, I love the sound but hate the static and noise. would a noise gate be a waste of money or should I get a preamp, the sonic maximizer and use my pedal still? I really don't know what a preamp is, lol. been playing for like 6 years and never heard of one. damn I must be living under a rock. thanks for your commets too man.

[Trauma]

Don't worry, you have a preamp ;)
In a amp's head, you have a preamp and a poweramp.
So, in the XXL, you've got a preamp (that gives you the sound, distortion, equalisation etc..) and a poweramp (here transistor) that gives the power.

I don't think the XXL is crappy. I just heard twice, i think, and i can have a huge sound.
Try to forget your Metal Zone, and try to use the XXL distortion. If the sound doesn't suit you, put the MetalZone.
What are the pickups on your guitar?
Do you have an equalisation pedal? For a transistor amp, it could be a great thing (to build your sound very tight) and it's quite cheap (8 bands from Boss, for exemple)
The Peavey amps have a huge noise, it's certain (the 5150 one for exemple), to minimize it free, just switch on the clear chanel at the second you stop to play. (Christian Munzner from Necrophagist made it in concert, that gave me the idea)

I believe that you could have a great sound with this, maybe not THE sound but a sound that will fit to reharsal.

If there still a powerbreak, your amp may have a problem. What do you mean when you say it hasn't enough power?

Finally, when you'll have enough money, check on ebay for the BBE maximizer. It's quite cheap in the US.

Last thing, i'm not found of gear, and quite ignorant too (i woulnd't be able to open my amp, and i could have a better better sound with the gear i have) so don't be ashamed. everyone lives under a rock until he decides that plug and play isn't enough ;)

[NRWDM_Markus]

Originally posted by Trauma

For a brutal sound ( i'm not en expert but..) make sure your guitar pickups have enough gain (EMG 81 ones for exemple). Than, your preamp must have enough gain too. The equalisation is very important to sound brutal. But you have to build your sound including the bass frequencies and the drum frequencies.
It's not easy and that's why i hava a crappy sound :)


I wouldn't get an EMG 81, coz I think in some ways it makes a lot of guitars sound the same, but that may be a matter of personal taste. It's a damn heavy pickup though and very well to upgrade your guitar if you have crappy and weak pickups in it.

I love the DiMarzio X2N pickup and if you don't wanna play an active pickup then it's a nice choice. The previous owner of my Stealth had put an EMG HZ pickup in the bridge position and with the X2N it's like night and day. This guitar sounds so damn heavy now, it's incredible what this pickup does!


And yeah, that's right. That aspect about your guitar sound in combination with the complete band is very imprtant, too!

I've heard a lot of people who had brutal guitar sounds, but they were totally 'buried' when the complete band played. Especially in live situation less bass and more mids can help a lot and through the PA system it will still sound brutal.

[Trauma]

hey, i have X2Ns too, on my Vigier Marylin. But it must have a problem, cause they sound crappy.
I have no gain at all ( compared to the EMG 81 of my RG550) even the clear channel doesn't sound.
I don't know where the problem comes from. I thought the X2N was very bad ??
The emg81 is cold but very tight, and has a lot of mids. I'm not very satisfied too

[Immortal Extinction]

Hey Matt, I see you have a GSP 21 Legend. I just bought one, and I'm having trouble getting a good sound out of it. The setup I have now is...


Line 6 Pod Pro
GSP 21 legend
Yamaha GEP 50
Peavey Classic 50/50 Power Amp
Tube Works 4x12
Custom Randy Rhodes with EMG's 81/85, running with 18 volts

what settings are you running on your GSP? I'm not trying to copy your sound, but that would give me a starting point

[ChAAPY]

I just have the same pickups that were in the guitar when I bought it about 3 years ago. no brand name or nothing, just pickups, lol

[Trauma]

CHANGE IT!! What is your guitar?

[ChAAPY]

Ibanez GIO or some shit

[Trauma]

Must own some EMG, DiMarzio or SeymourDuncan pickups.
I don't know this Ibanez model, but if it's not a custom one, you lust have some V7 and V5, something like that

[Innards-Decay]

I believe a sonic maximizer puts a 1 millisecond delay between the bass frequencies and high frequencies, but i could be wrong. Im building a rack pretty close to the same setup as you matt, and i was wondering about the RA, it looks pretty nice, and i assume it sounds pretty clean since its an SS monitoring amp. But i was also interested in the Carvin DCM 1015, because it has a 2 15 band eqs in it, but id still have an alesisM-EQ230, since i already own one, which do you guys think would work best?

[AeonsPast]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
I believe a sonic maximizer puts a 1 millisecond delay between the bass frequencies and high frequencies, but i could be wrong. Im building a rack pretty close to the same setup as you matt, and i was wondering about the RA, it looks pretty nice, and i assume it sounds pretty clean since its an SS monitoring amp. But i was also interested in the Carvin DCM 1015, because it has a 2 15 band eqs in it, but id still have an alesisM-EQ230, since i already own one, which do you guys think would work best?

I was going to get the Carvin tube power amp (http://www.carvin.com/products/single.php?ItemNumber=TS100&CID=GPRE), but decided to go with the Alesis RA500 (http://www.alesis.com/products/ra500/index.html), because of the convection cooling system and the price. I will know soon enough.

[Innards-Decay]

http://www.carvin.com/products/dcm.php?ItemNumber=DCM1015&CID=PWA

thats the one with the eqs in it, i think thats pretty cool, and id have an inordinate amout of control with 4 eqs in the loop (two 2 channel eqs).

[AeonsPast]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
http://www.carvin.com/products/dcm.php?ItemNumber=DCM1015&CID=PWA

thats the one with the eqs in it, i think thats pretty cool, and id have an inordinate amout of control with 4 eqs in the loop (two 2 channel eqs).

Nice. 500 watts per channel, what are you powering out?

[Innards-Decay]

i will be powering out either 1 mesa recto traditional cab or an avatar cab made to mesa recto cab specs. Theres no reason for more with the gigs id be playing.

[Innards-Decay]

As i said before, the way i will have the rack setup is pretty much the same as matts, save the poweramp, and cabinet.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
I believe a sonic maximizer puts a 1 millisecond delay between the bass frequencies and high frequencies, but i could be wrong. Im building a rack pretty close to the same setup as you matt, and i was wondering about the RA, it looks pretty nice, and i assume it sounds pretty clean since its an SS monitoring amp. But i was also interested in the Carvin DCM 1015, because it has a 2 15 band eqs in it, but id still have an alesisM-EQ230, since i already own one, which do you guys think would work best?

Dude, that Alesis poweramp that I have is a total piece of shit! I'm using a Samson 750 watt a side power amp right now. I'm looking to upgrade to a Mesa Boogie 2:ninety.

[Innards-Decay]

haha, now you tell us. Well, what does mike think of his?

[Innards-Decay]

The mesa is really nice, but if you just want the signal from your preamp, dont get a tube poweramp, tubes color your tone. For better or worse if for you to decide.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
haha, now you tell us. Well, what does mike think of his?

Mike is using a Carvin which he really likes.

[M.Gilbert]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
The mesa is really nice, but if you just want the signal from your preamp, dont get a tube poweramp, tubes color your tone. For better or worse if for you to decide.

I respectfully disagree. Any power amp is going to color your tone somewhat. But a tube poweramp adds warmth and quality of tone across the spectrum that cannot be duplicated with a solid state circuit. The power tubes also saturate at medium to high volumes, which further improves the tone. There are certain types of power amp tubes (KT66) like in the VHT 2/90/2 that do not saturate at high volumes. But most people prefer 6l6 or el34's which do. Solid state amps sound consistant at any volume. And some sound really good for death metal rhythm tones, but if the frequency response inherent in a solid state is not the best for guitar. Too "synthetic" sounding. Call me a tube snob! :D I've had several rigs which included solid state poweramps, and to me there is no comparison. Tube is the way to go. BUT you gotta figure out which type of power tube best compliments the preamp you are using.

[Innards-Decay]

Yeah Mike tubes are alot better, I agree, but I think I stated what I wanted to say wrong. What I meant is that a SS poweramp can give you a flatter, more synthetic tone, like you said, wereas the Tube poweramps give a really sweet tone like you said, but also color the sound a little more than SS poweramps.

[M.Gilbert]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
Yeah Mike tubes are alot better, I agree, but I think I stated what I wanted to say wrong. What I meant is that a SS poweramp can give you a flatter, more synthetic tone, like you said, wereas the Tube poweramps give a really sweet tone like you said, but also color the sound a little more than SS poweramps.

I hear ya. A Solid state power section alters the tone less. But I see that as a bad thing. Since a good amount of the tone in a typical amp head comes from the power section. Solid states definately can do the job, don't get me wrong.

[Innards-Decay]

Yeah, if i do get a tube power amp though, itll either have to be that carvin ts100, which ill put JJ EL34s in it, or the Simul 2:95 or Simul 2:90.

[M.Gilbert]

I'm stuck deciding betwen el34's or 6l6's on my next power amp myself. I'm waitin for the new Engl model to come out which goes along with the e570 pre I recently got. I like the Mesa 2:90 (6l6's) I have now, but it's a little darker and looser in the low end than Engl's power amps are. Plus I heard a clip of the SE head with EL34's and it sounded fuckin awesome.

[smellslikeherpes]

ive been thinking of getting a pre-amp to go through my crate gx-130c head. im currently using a digitech metal master as my pre-amp which i refer it as. was thinking of something not too expensive and something where im goin to buy a pre-amp with 50 channels on it and use 1.

otherwise just adding a bbe sonic maximizer to my rig, eq pedal, or noise gate.

im putting either an emg 85 or an x2n in the bridge of my esp so im not looking for something that will drasticly change my tone. i have a sound like severed savior just with less mids.

[Innards-Decay]

ummm, you have a crate gx130c? why arent you using the on board dist? Its the best SS amp crate has ever made!

[smellslikeherpes]

i fuck with the distortion on it all the time and i cant get a real high gain tone. i can get a sort of suffocation sound when i put the treble, gain, and mids all the way up and put the bass to like 5 or so.

[Innards-Decay]

that amp is bassically the same amp as terrances hobbes, with the exception that his is an ampeg, im amazed you cant get a good tone out of it. but tone is one of the most subjective things in the music world so i guess i shouldnt be surprised.

[Trauma]

Just one thing.. During the past glory of death metal, many bands were playing on Marshall jcm 900 or stuff which no one could have a great tone with.
Most of them have modified amps...
For exemple, Bogner has began as amp modifier (if my memory is good).

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
that amp is bassically the same amp as terrances hobbes, with the exception that his is an ampeg, im amazed you cant get a good tone out of it. but tone is one of the most subjective things in the music world so i guess i shouldnt be surprised.


The Ampeg head that Hobbs uses(VL1002) are designed Lee Jackson, and are also tube. I dont think the Crates are designed and tuned by Lee Jackson. But I could be wrong. Also do those Crate gx130c's have tubes?

[analredwing]

I think everyone here should just come to the realization that ROUGE amps put out the best tone imaginable

[Innards-Decay]

um, terrance uses a vh140c if im not mistaken, but you could be right, those heads looks almost the same.

[Innards-Decay]

oh, the GXs or solid state, and im about 100% sure cannibal corpse used em on the bleeding. They sound very different than the new stuff you see from crate.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
um, terrance uses a vh140c if im not mistaken, but you could be right, those heads looks almost the same.

I'll ask Derek next time I talk to him, but I'm pretty sure that he said that Terrance was using the tube Ampeg guitar heads. He also mentioned that Terrance was thinking of selling his rig and using the same setup as Guy.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
oh, the GXs or solid state, and im about 100% sure cannibal corpse used em on the bleeding. They sound very different than the new stuff you see from crate.

I thought they were using the Crate "Stealth" heads in those days? I remember checking out their gear on the bleeding tour.

http://www.bostonguitar.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/crate-stealth.JPG

which look a little like the Ampeg Lee Jackson heads???


http://www.leejackson.com/VL1002.gif

[smellslikeherpes]

for the life of me i cant get a high gain sound from that distortion channel. i can get a low end tone thats all sludgey but nothing really heavy. ill dick with it some more.

my amp just sounds weird now. it might be my ears or the fact im not interested in playing music that much.

[Innards-Decay]

its the Ampeg Vh140c, it and the VL1002 look almost identical at a glance.

[shroudofimpurity]

I was just doing some reading... I guess Lee Jackson did design the Crate "Stealth" heads. I bet they are very close to the Ampeg Lee Jackson heads. Anybody have any experience with the Crate Stealth?

[NRWDM_Markus]

Originally posted by shroudofimpurity
I was just doing some reading... I guess Lee Jackson did design the Crate "Stealth" heads. I bet they are very close to the Ampeg Lee Jackson heads. Anybody have any experience with the Crate Stealth?


The Crate Stealth heads are killer! I love mine!

http://www.innerfear.com/exposedguts/images/my_gear_003.jpg
(there has already been another pic of my gear in this thread)

I did never play an Ampeg Lee Jackson head so I can't compare them, but I prefer the Crate Stealth over any Marshall or Mesa Boogie that I've played so far.


BTW, this is the Amp that was used by Cannibal Coprse on the recordings for "The bleeding" and "Vile":
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/paulchurch//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/crate.jpg

That's taken from Paul 'Lurch' Church's website: http://mypeoplepc.com/members/paulchurch



I used the Crate Stealth head for the recordings of our "The way of all flesh" CD, two MP3s are available on our website. I did play two guitar tracks with the Crate and two guitar tracks with a Line 6 POD and the result sounded huge. Well, IMO quite good for my first recording experience as an engineer ever.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by NRWDM_Markus
The Crate Stealth heads are killer! I love mine!

http://www.innerfear.com/exposedguts/images/my_gear_003.jpg
(there has already been another pic of my gear in this thread)

I did never play an Ampeg Lee Jackson head so I can't compare them, but I prefer the Crate Stealth over any Marshall or Mesa Boogie that I've played so far.


BTW, this is the Amp that was used by Cannibal Coprse on the recordings for "The bleeding" and "Vile":
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/paulchurch//sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/crate.jpg

That's taken from Paul 'Lurch' Church's website: http://mypeoplepc.com/members/paulchurch



I used the Crate Stealth head for the recordings of our "The way of all flesh" CD, two MP3s are available on our website. I did play two guitar tracks with the Crate and two guitar tracks with a Line 6 POD and the result sounded huge. Well, IMO quite good for my first recording experience as an engineer ever.


It looks like you have the 50 watt model, is that badboy loud enough? I've seen the 100watt Stealth for sale on ebay really cheap a few times, I'm thinking of picking one up for fun.

[NRWDM_Markus]

Originally posted by shroudofimpurity
It looks like you have the 50 watt model, is that badboy loud enough? I've seen the 100watt Stealth for sale on ebay really cheap a few times, I'm thinking of picking one up for fun.


Yeah, it's just the 50 Watt version. It's pretty loud since it's all tube and it's louder than a lot of 100 Watt transistor amps. If you can get the 100 Watt version then go for it, I would pick up the 100 Watt version anytime (if I would have the money, and you don't see them in Germany that often).

Our second guitar player has a Rocktron velocity 500 Watts power amp and our drummer seems to be deaf so I always have to run my amp nearly at full volume. All cabs are directed to our drummer and I try to stay far away from the cabs to still be able to hear in a few years... haha...

It is definitely a very loud 50 Watts amp, but I'll try to get the 100 Watts version or the Crate Blue Voodoo 120 Watts version one day. This won't be in the near future though, coz if everything goes well my new BC Rich guitar will be completed on friday. :D The negative aspect is that I won't be able to get any other new gear within the next few months.

If you don't get that amp we might get a local support slot whenever you come to Europe and you might check out my amp... or if you need an amp, cabs and guitar tech for a European tour, just drop me a note. I will have plenty of time to go on tour in 2005.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by NRWDM_Markus
Yeah, it's just the 50 Watt version. It's pretty loud since it's all tube and it's louder than a lot of 100 Watt transistor amps. If you can get the 100 Watt version then go for it, I would pick up the 100 Watt version anytime (if I would have the money, and you don't see them in Germany that often).

Our second guitar player has a Rocktron velocity 500 Watts power amp and our drummer seems to be deaf so I always have to run my amp nearly at full volume. All cabs are directed to our drummer and I try to stay far away from the cabs to still be able to hear in a few years... haha...

It is definitely a very loud 50 Watts amp, but I'll try to get the 100 Watts version or the Crate Blue Voodoo 120 Watts version one day. This won't be in the near future though, coz if everything goes well my new BC Rich guitar will be completed on friday. :D The negative aspect is that I won't be able to get any other new gear within the next few months.

If you don't get that amp we might get a local support slot whenever you come to Europe and you might check out my amp... or if you need an amp, cabs and guitar tech for a European tour, just drop me a note. I will have plenty of time to go on tour in 2005.


So, do you use the distortion on the amp as it is? Or do you use anything to enhance the tone? Like an eq, overdrive, sonic maximizer?

[NRWDM_Markus]

Originally posted by shroudofimpurity
So, do you use the distortion on the amp as it is? Or do you use anything to enhance the tone? Like an eq, overdrive, sonic maximizer?


I used distortion pedals before I got that head, but when I tried them on that amp it just couldn't compete with the amp's distortion.

So far I didn't use anything to enhance my sound except for upgrading to a DiMarzio X2N Pickup in two of my guitars. When I saw your posts about the BBE Sonic maximizers I was thinking about checking that out. I have a Rocktron Intellifex (which is in repair from more than 3 months now due to a broken display and the German Rocktron distribution sucks big time!) and I might add some more 19" equipment in the future.

I was thinking about a setup like this:


Shure wireless system
Crate Stealth 50

and in the effect loop:
BBE Sonic maximizer
some kind of EQ
Rocktron Intellifex


As a foot controller I was thinking of the Behringer FCB1010, coz you can control Midi and the amp channel at one time. I don't have any non-distorted stuff in our songs so far, but you never know.


My amp was already played live on stage by Mark English from Monstrosity, Shaun from Putrid Pile, Ollie from Desecration and by the guitar players of Cerebral Effusion and Rottenness. All of them except for Mark English used the distortion on the amp and were happy with it Mark had a couple of pedals and I guess his tech didn't want to change anything on his setup so they used the clean channel.

I didn't had any problems with that amp so far except for having the input jack being replaced a few years ago, but it's working fine since then. The negative aspects of the amp are that there's no standby-button and that you can only switch it to 8 and 16 Ohms and not to 4. Most cabs run at 16 Ohms, but there are some 4 Ohm only guitar cabs out there.

[Innards-Decay]

you could probably get a g-major to replace that intellifex if you dont think itll come back.

[smellslikeherpes]

im happy with the tone i get from the gx-130 and my metal master. i get amazing sound, especially coming out of a behringer 4x12. the behringer is so underrated in my opinion, better then marshalls to my ears.

right now im just waiting until i get the new pickups in my esp horizon, either emg 85 or dimarzio x2n in the bridge, haven't decided yet.

[Innards-Decay]

what about the 81? too thin for you?

[smellslikeherpes]

I've tried out a bunch of different guitars with 81s in the bridge, mainly the new lines of ESPs. I didn't like them but then again it wasn't my setup I was playing it through. 81s are supposed to be trebly and gainy but that's my guitar sound so I was thinking on an 85 which has a natural tone with some bass and mids and then I'd let my amp's gain and my metal master's distortion take care of the rest.

My guitar seems like it's really a rhythm based instrument. It handles the chuggy slams I play but when it comes to some shreddy runs and licks it just doesn't sound to good. Maybe it's my playing style, not sure.

With the X2N I think I'd get a screamy tone with alot of harmonics but at the same time the thick tight rhythm sound I'm known for having amongst friends and people I've played with.

Still not sure on the pickups, I'm going to the Guitar Center today so I might make a decision today.

[smellslikeherpes]

the distortion channel on my crate gx-130 has changed since i fucked with it. now i have a morbid angel sound but with more treble.

i still prefer my metal master on the clean channel.

[Innards-Decay]

Hmmm, my friend complained about that happening to his amp. He changed the setting, then went back to his old ones, and it didnt sound the same. Weird, if you want a good lead tone, an 85 in the neck position is pretty good.

[Innards-Decay]

so did you find out whether terrance uses a VH or VL yet matt?

[smellslikeherpes]

he uses the vh-140c. same head the guy in disgorge uses, gallagher uses, the guy from pyrexia, and a bunch of other dm guitarists.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by smellslikeherpes
he uses the vh-140c. same head the guy in disgorge uses, gallagher uses, the guy from pyrexia, and a bunch of other dm guitarists.

Are you totally sure about that? cause I swear Derek told me he uses the Ampeg tube head which would be the Lee Jackson designed line. And if Diego from Disgorge is using that head too, thats new... cause he always had a big rack full of gear and no heads.

[Innards-Decay]

so have you found out yet, i really want to know what created the ultimate new york death metal tone in peirced from within.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
so have you found out yet, i really want to know what created the ultimate new york death metal tone in peirced from within.

Craziest thing... I heard they used one of those stupid Zoom pedals to record Pierced... I dont know how much truth there is in that.

[smellslikeherpes]

alot of rumors.

[Innards-Decay]

no way a zoom pedal could get that brutal unless there was a shitload of "studio magic" behind it.

[shroudofimpurity]

Like I said though... i can find out exactly whats up when Suffo gets beck from tour... I'm sure Derek will give me a call right away.

[Innards-Decay]

ok thanks, on the side though, have you played Mike Gilberts setup matt? It sounds sick as hell, german technology at work.

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Innards-Decay
ok thanks, on the side though, have you played Mike Gilberts setup matt? It sounds sick as hell, german technology at work.

I need to check his setup in person.

[M.Gilbert]

Any of you that live in this area that wanna come to our rehearsal studio and try out the rig is more than welcome to do so. I'm there monday, wednesday, thursday and fridays.

[Innards-Decay]

well, i live in the east bay, but my playing is so bad... i wouldnt want to disgrace the engl with something that bad.

[Trauma]

well, il live in France, but let me jump into the first airplane...
So you could demonstrate how are you making thoses fuckin riffs in FuckTH ah ah!

[M.Gilbert]

:D

[Innards-Decay]

Its cool. So what settings do you have on your legend matt?

[PanzerKjell]

Can you post more pictures? :)

[Jimitrader]

Doesn't Bill's gear consist of a broken glass sherlock and three used green bic lighters? If so where are they in the photo?

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by Jimitrader
Doesn't Bill's gear consist of a broken glass sherlock and three used green bic lighters? If so where are they in the photo?

hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! You nailed it bro! Whats up Jim!

[analredwing]

what size strings you play with matt???

[shroudofimpurity]

Originally posted by analredwing
what size strings you play with matt???

Dean Markley Blue Steel, guage 10-46. ONLY!!!!

[analredwing]

i use 10's as we'll, ernie ball only the cheapest!!!

[Innards-Decay]

i use 11-52 blue steels and tune to D or C#, 10s are a little too loose for me, but who cares since matt can own my ass at guitar any day of the week...

[ornament666]

Some of you have been asking about what gear we use, so here is a picture of our gear in our jam room:
http://deprecated.deathmetal.com/magic-linkage-folder/decrepitbirth/decrepit_gear.jpg

Matt uses:
Digitech GSP 21 Legend guitar preamp
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
Alesis MEQ 230 stereo EQ
Alesis RA Power Amp
Marshall 4x12 cabs (75 watt Celestions)
Dean Markley Blue Steel Strings ONLY!!!
Charvel guitar with custom 18 volt active pick-up system
B.C. Rich N.J. Warlock

Mike uses:
Boss GX-700 guitar preamp
DBX 1215 stereo EQ
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
DBX 1066 Compressor Limiter Gate
Carvin DCM 600 watt Power Amp
Marshall 4x12 cabs (75 watt Celestions)
Custom Ibanez S. with EMG active pickup

Risha uses:
Sans Amp Bass DI
BBE 482 Sonic Maximizer
Samson 1400 watt Power Amp
SWR Megoliath 8x10 Bass cab
Custom Tobias 4 string bass

We also have a nice fat black double bass Pearl kit in the room, just waiting!!!